TrUeFoRcE Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 alot of multiplayer games in JO are nf saber battles and this makes the saberthrow completely useless.....u much rather would have had a kick or a secondary fire to the saber style giving even more moves and combinations rather than having the throw, ide rahter have the throw as a seperate bindable key, i think it would make the combat alot better to have a second type of swing for each style or even a type of kick instead of a force power.....*hint to mod makers outthere* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue74 Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 I always use saber throw at full power in mp. Most people use strong stance so it's extremely easy to catch people off guard by throwing your saber at them when they take a swing, or just scything it through a group of gunners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrUeFoRcE Posted April 11, 2002 Author Share Posted April 11, 2002 i can understand its use in ff games, but they should have put in something like a kick or move saber moves for nf games..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis_Aureus Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Saber throw is useful. - Hitting those who just blindly attack without any chance of getting hurt yourself. - Killing that guy at 30 or less health who is running away from you like the coward he is BUT i like the idea about using the second mouse button for another set of moves for every stance. Would give us much better control. Perhaps one button could be horisontal attacks and the other vertical attacks. I wouldn't mind if saber throw was on a different key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdarious Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 I agree that setting the secondary fire as another useful attack would be cool. I also believe that saber throwing is very usefull, I have pulled off many headshot throws with it for the killing blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovialjuggler Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Sabre throw is one of the most useful things ever! For people who swing around like ballerinas with strong stance on just get back and throwm and if youre clever you can make it so when the saber is on the return trip it hits them again (if you miss) and if youre quick you can get it to spin around you and thats really neat in those big groups of people who are running around swinging at each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrUeFoRcE Posted April 11, 2002 Author Share Posted April 11, 2002 it is a useful attack, but its useless in nf saber battles...thats why i thought it would be a good idea for a secondary saber attack, im not saying its a bad attack im jsut saying its useless in nf games, and shopuld have been replaced with something else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Why is it useless in NF games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Widow Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Well, if you haven't noticed a saber throw attack requires force energy, which you can't use in no force games i agree by the way, i think that the saber throw should be a force ability like in Mysteries of the Sith rather than an alternate attack so that we could have more saber swing movements instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleculor Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Oh I use Saber Throw almost constantly. So many people just -don't- block it. And for those red stancers... They never hit me, and I just constantly hit them. Sure, it take a tiny bit of time, but I don't die and they do. But yeah, in NF ones the secondary fire should be something else. But I don't like the idea of making it a separate force power. I have a hard enough time reaching F10 from my WASD format as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desslock Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Originally posted by Scarlet Widow Well, if you haven't noticed a saber throw attack requires force energy, which you can't use in no force games i agree by the way, i think that the saber throw should be a force ability like in Mysteries of the Sith rather than an alternate attack so that we could have more saber swing movements instead. Uhh, you still have force jump I find Saber throw useless, mainly because I dont need it. If I hit someone once with a heavy stance, I can easily finish you off if you throw your saber since it leaves you wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon00 Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 No question - saber throw is extremely useful.. And of course it's useless in NF games.. it's useless just like grip or push is useless in NF games.. I don't see your point. And there is a kick.. if you are close enough to the person you are fighting, do a backflip (or just jump, I'm not sure) and you kick them on the ground. But yes, a regular kick hotkey or something would have been nice. In Episode I, they're kicking each other all over the place. Maybe it'll be added with a mod or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithdrone Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 All you saber-throwing LAMERS that play in saber-only servers make me vomit. The first week, I invited and accepted all duels. The fights were pure saber and out of 100 duels, I lost about 5. This week, all the scrubs have figured out the CHEESE invite you and the nest thing you know, theyre pulling back, spamming saber throw. How cowardly. How corny. How lame. So many pussies online, its digusting. Keep inviting me to your fake duels you useless tools, I kill you just when you thought I would accept. And you deserve it for being an ignorant waste of life. You have no honor, no self-respect and no appreciation for a duel, die like the pig that you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolboi Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 theyre pulling back, spamming saber throw. How cowardly. How corny. How lame. So many pussies online, its digusting Saberthrow spamming? Isnt that an oxymoron? It leaves you SO open to attacks. I use throw quite a bit, whenever I want to tease some one (since I know they'll block), or when some one is using red stance (oh so useful for that), or when some one is running from you (run flag man run!). However I have a 4 button mouse, so I have saer stance and roll on there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NerfYoda Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Originally posted by Sithdrone <snip> Felling a bit cranky today, are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sontarian Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Hey Sithdrone I think you ve been slained by too many players hehehe.Look man saberthrow is using for cowards that run like hell when thier HP is too low, heavy stance jumper newbies and of course newbies like you.Hey man if you have a problem dont enter a FF server.And if you really wanna enter a FF server dont come and cry like a baby after they slain you in to pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broode Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 I always use saber throw in duels. Run up, take a few swings, then back off and take a throw. Most of the time they'll still be swinging, and you can hit them with ease. Then run back in and repeat. And as for Sithdrone: grow up. If you keep getting owned with it, maybe you should try something other than running at thm trying to score a lucky hit in heavy. Throw is easily countered, and if you keep running at them swinging, you deserve to be killed by it. And when people hadn't learned to use the throw effectively, you owned, but then when people adapted and grew, you stayed complacent in your fighting style. I look forward to owning you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue74 Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 One move that would be neat would be to clock someone with the pommel of your saber and temporarily stun them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zek Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Bacon, the kick requires force jump 2 just like the non-roll acrobatics, and you only get jump 1 in NF games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithdrone Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 cornballs, dont flatter yourselves, I'm always in first place, sometimes in second, at the end of a map. keep throwing your sabers because thats what you do best. You dont know what dueling is and you never will. You must be..15-16? typical newbie gamers, bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis_Aureus Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 SithDrone... you're an annoyance... that is all. Play instead of all this BS! Let people play like they want and you can do the same. The upcomming patch will fix imbalances but saber throw is NOT one of them. so PLEASE stfu k thanx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Bakker Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Saber throw - like every other Force power and weapon in the game - works best in suitable scenarios. Saber throw is friend of the FFA saber-only gamer, as it allows them a ranged attack (that comes at the cost of being temporarily defenseless) best used against targets who don't notice you. Sabering people who are busy concentrating on others may be dishonourable, but if you're in it to rack up points it will help. Besides, it will make them learn to be aware of their surroundings (and the sneaky Jedi's waiting to saber their @$$). Throwing is also (as said before) great for whittling away the health of those who're fleeing. Also, has anyone noticed how distracting it is to see a saber fly past them? I keep thinking that they're trying to get it behind me. This could be exploited. To make an opponent expect an attack from one direction, and receive it from another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiro Kage Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Uh, Sithdrone, you are just as bad as those people you hate. If someone runs in just blasting away swinging at you, why should you wading in, with the bad hit detection, and possibly getting killed by a button masher? Why not take the assured hit and pitch the saber? And what makes you think its so powerful? When they throw, if you have recovered YOU can throw also and get the hit in. Its an extremely useful tool for distracting the opponent and getting the retaliatory hit in. If the person repeatedly throws, then wait until they run out of force then do your idiotic rush in. All this whining over saber throw makes me think of the stereotypical camper-strike player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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