XIII Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 hi guys, I hosted my standard NTS Duel Server/NF/Sabres only on BGJ. After some rounds a guy joined (NO I won't give his name) who was partly invisible and I don't mean the 'ghost' skinn but really invisible. All u can see were the ingnited Lightsabre and his hands. You of course see it comming: he only ingnited the sabre seldom or when attacking. If this was told be4 in a topic I appologize but I haven't found it. Can someone please fill me in? Is this a cheat or a skinn I encounterd? I made a change to my server setup yesterday because I couldn't host the day before on the zone. I put the option 'Pure Server' off. I have been downloading skinns lately and I was wondering if it works this way. Another question might be: does 'Pure Server' effect the visibility of my skinns. Or in more understanding english: can some1 still see my skinn if I host a Pure Server AND put download to clients 'off'. I hope some1 can fill me in. btw: after I threarend to kick the player he changed to a normal player. (and lets say... he didn't stay long ) Thanks for reading and hopefully reacting, Regards, XIII aka NTS_ARCHER NTS website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Moe Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Its a skin that Raven left in for some reason. Hopefully they will include in the patch making it so you can't select it on a non-cheats multiplayer server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripLe Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 its a model, already in game. you can use it, he can use it, anyone else can use it. chill, its not a cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mett Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 I believe I heard something before about there being a skin of just kyle's hands... Somebody used it and mentioned it here before. I could be wrong, so somebody else pitch in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdarious Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Leave the pure server on. That skin he is using is a skin that you can select in the console, so the people either have to warn him about kicking him or use force default models(kicking seems more appropriate since why force everyone to use defaults). You can still use all your custom skins on a pure server. Everything the server has is considered pure when you do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalVapor Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 LOL!!! That is soooo funny! I was just thinking about making that very skin mod!!! I thought it would be cool. can anyone tell me what the command to use it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireKat Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 You can find it if you dig through the Paks, though I won't give it out directly, but there is no way of keeping someone from using it since it is built into the game for some reason. I wish Raven would have thought a little harder about this before they put it into the game. Morgans Ghost Skin doesnt bother me though, since he's plain to see. And all the Reborn Skin Extras are very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo4114 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 I'm sorry, but the argument about this not beign cheating is crap. It's a cheat. It should be disabled. Raven guys said that it wasn't supposed to be in the game and shouldn't be accessible. It's a cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by TripLe its a model, already in game. you can use it, he can use it, anyone else can use it. chill, its not a cheat. Not calling it a cheat is just stupid. It makes 95% of your body invisible and throws off your opponents concentration and gives them a huge disadvantage. How is that not a cheat? Because you can use it too? You're not suppose to use it in the first place or else they would've mentioned it in the manual or readme files. The only way the lame cheaters found it was by searching through the *.pak3 files which is something programmers do not expect the average player to do. If you were suppose to use it, it would be selectable from the Player Settings configurations screen. Those arms are actually the skin you use/see when you play the single player game in 1st Person View (As opposed to 3rd Person View). Other then that, it's not meant to be used in multiplayer in the first place and is only put in the game to be used in single player. -Caster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 It's the model that is used for Kyle's hands when in first person mode when using the light saber in SP. Personally I find it a cheat, just like strafe jumping/bunny hopping. Just because it is in the games files, or is a bad prt of the games physics doesn't mean you have to use it. I thought SW was more about chivalry and honour, obviously the Sith amongst you out there don't believe in that. If you want to just kill, play Q3, if you want to at least try and play in the spirit of the game, then by all means play JO with the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executor32 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 For the last time, there is a reason the skin is in the game! The skin is used for the first-person view of the saber! This has been stated in many different threads, but everyone keeps ignoring it. The statement that "Raven guys said that it wasn't supposed to be in the game and shouldn't be accessible" is either a misquote or a flat-out lie, since as I said, the skin is supposed to be there, it just wasn't meant to be used in multiplayer. The only reason this is a problem is that a bunch of lamers decided they should use the skin to their advantage. Since this has proved to be such a problem, I'm certain Raven will fix this in the first patch, most likely just making it an invalid skin in multiplayer. Now that I think about it, this may be the reason that you can't use the lightsaber in first-person mode in MP, as I believe the first person LS command just changes your skin to that one in SP. There's no good way to tell, though, so I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 type Model kyle/fpls2 in the console to turn to that skin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooglyMoogly Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 DORK..don't post the skin here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MankaCat Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 DORK! better everyone knows than only a few having an advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crack 6K Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 What the hell are you talking about? Do you know what happened to D2: LOD? EVERYONE knew how to dupe, and the game DIED as a result. Do you want that to happen to JO??? SHUT UP!!!! Admins, delete this thread, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frumpus Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 hmm. I don't think it would matter if the admins deleted this thread. People want what they can't have, and want to do what they're told they CAN\T do, ...so if this thread is deleted,. .. SOMEbody is just gonna try to repost the information .. . and spread the word,. . . and repost. .etc. etc. I can't stand cheating - even taking advantage of the shortcomings of a game. I can't stand that some people don't see how this CHEAT may ruin the game for others, but it's clear they've rationalized to themselves somehow. If this thread is deleted, great, but I really don't think it'll have the opposite effect desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 lol Wake, I feel sorry for the poor newbie that types in THAT command. Time for Mr. Desktop. The new improved version of alt-f4 EDIT- Reason why it doe scrash, was because the devs originally DID put a model (I believe it was a different version of those "crabs" in singleplayer) but later was removed. However, the model command was still in the files. Once you type it in, the game crashes due to a "model not found" error, or something along those lines. Just lazy developers, or forgot to remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerthNader Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 If anyone uses that skin on the EED server, thwy will be kicked. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raze Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Just remove the skin from the server-side pk3's.. That should do it, no? [Edit: Ooh, look, I am a pit droid.. is that a good thing, yes?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIII Posted April 15, 2002 Author Share Posted April 15, 2002 thx for info guys, I later realised it wasn't a cheat because the guy really fast changed in another skinn. However I still think it is lame. No honor. No skill and No fun. For the records, the next person tries it on my server will be kicked as well without warning, thx for reacting every1, happy hunting and check six, Regards, XIII aka NTS_Archer NTS Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplWulf Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 similiar models and skins were made for H2 and used by lamers to gain the upperhand, you can either remove the model from the server side pk3 as mentioned above, or a better option I found is to replace it with a model that's nice and solid, and make a really bright skin for it so they stand out even more. there's nothing more fun than watching someone who thinks they're invisible try and taunt you and snipe you, when you see everything they are doing, and can blast them anyways. the purple one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by Crack 6K What the hell are you talking about? Do you know what happened to D2: LOD? EVERYONE knew how to dupe, and the game DIED as a result. Do you want that to happen to JO??? SHUT UP!!!! Admins, delete this thread, please. this isnt exactly duping.. its just a skin... and at least theres a fix... thank you MankaCat ... thats the EXACT reason i posted that here. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalVapor Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 What I want to do is figure out how to make a skin of the Semi-Invisible shadowtrooper. That looked extremely cool and if anyone knows what texture is used for the blue swirl effect it shows please tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aletoledo Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 thank-you wake for posting how to do it. I was mostly interested in the console command to change the skin....but I agree that everyone should know how to do it and not just a select few. actually the last time I saw someone using that skin, I killed them repeatedly. its kinda like the one-hit-kill strong stance move, if people are aware about the move/skin, it loses the majority of its effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashFearless Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 couldn't somebody make and release a replacement model for that skin? somethign bright and shiny would be good... Then every time some guy thinks "hahaha i r leet" he'd actually be plainly visible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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