Star Wars movie question

[ACGe0rge]

Since a lot of other people have posed interesting questions about the movies, I thought I'd post my own.

 

Why did Obiwan's body vanish when Vader killed him in ANH? On that same note, why did Yoda's body vanish when he died?

 

Before Ep 1 came out, I just figured that's what happened when a Jedi died. Then we got to see Qui-gon's funeral in Ep 1 and his body was still intact. I also remember that Vaders Body was still there for his funeral in ROTJ. This may have been explained in one of the many SW books, but since I dont read them, I wouldnt know. Any ideas?

[BCanr2d2]

My perspective is that when Yoda and Obi-wan vanish into the Force is that they are so in tune with the force that it is no surprise that they vanish the way they do. In TPM, we see that not all Jedi or Force users vanish into the force, that what happened to them wasn't the norm.

[Sithxace]

Obi Wan became one with the force, remember he just stopped fighting and concentrated and then disapeared before vader hit him. Yoda was dying so he became on with the force. Its something good jedis can do.

 

Qui Gon Jinn died from fighting, he was fighting and got hit.

[Raith]

No he didnt, when he died he was laying on the floor, pleading with Obi-Wan to train Anakin

[Kanubis]

Lucas already said he'd answer this in one of the two remaining films, but my cynical side says that for whatever reason, it was evident that Liam Nesson wasn't wanted for / didn't want to do another SW film. Therefore, they needed an excuse for why we won't see 'Ghost Qui-Gon' a la Yoda and Obi-Wan.

 

Wait a minute - anakin's body didn't dissapear in ROTJ, and he still did a Ghost thing at the end. Damn, my theory sucks.

[Raith]

I read somewhere that it may have something to do with Qui Gon Jinn being a bit of a renegade Jedi

[engineerdude]

I bet it had more to do with obi wan and yoda willingly accepting death to become part of the "force". Both Darth and Qui Gon died during combat. IMHO....

[Rogue Nine]

If you factor in the extended universe, other Jedi have died in combat, yet have also become one with the Force, a la disappearance. I'm just waiting for Lucas to explain it and put rumors to rest.

[Darth Seph]

I think it is because Yoda and Obi - wan (at that point he dies) are both Jedi Masters and so they are more with the force than say a Jedi Knight: Qui-Con Jinn was a Jedi Knight. As for Anakin it might have something to do with being a Sith who knows

 

or Maybe Lucas has dug his own grave so to speak, and @r$ed up his own creation.

[Jedi_Monk]

Obi-Wan did not vanish before Vader struck him. He vanished as soon as he was killed by saber-slash. The robe looks empty before Vader strikes him because it was. It was on a collapsable metal frame so it would crumple when hit. Likewise, Yoda vanished when he died.

 

Why didn't Qui-Gon and Vader disappear? Why did the Emperor explode and not Darth Maul? I don't know. What we do know is that the practice of cremating people in SW is an immitation of when people disappear to become one with the Force.

 

Also, I've heard that Liam Neeson is signed up for Episode III, but I'm not sure.

[Vestril]

If you factor in the extended universe, other Jedi have died in combat, yet have also become one with the Force, a la disappearance. I'm just waiting for Lucas to explain it and put rumors to rest.

 

Don't factor in the EU material, Lucas didn't.

[Frizbee]

With Darth Vader, you never actually see his body, just his suit... so you can't say that he didn't vanish.

 

As for Qui-Gon, he didn't exactly embrace all the teachings of the light side, even as he was dying he said to luke to teach Ani, which at that point of time, was against the councils wishes.

 

I think it is to do with how in touch with the force the Jedi is.

[RoyalGuard]

Obi-Wan, took time to compose himself and was ready to transfer his essence into the force, using Vader's sabre strike as the catalyst to seprate off his essence.

 

Yoda, is Yoda seriously he took time to absorb himself into the force also.

 

Qui-gon, used his last moments to ensure Anakin's training would occur, instead of preparing himself. It wasn't a power or attunement to the force thing, remember Qui-Gon would have been powerful enough to be on the Council.

 

course it's only speculation that could be blown out of the water by EP 2 but it makes sense.

[Kuroshi]

Originally posted by RoyalGuard

Qui-gon, used his last moments to ensure Anakin's training would occur, instead of preparing himself. It wasn't a power or attunement to the force thing, remember Qui-Gon would have been powerful enough to be on the Council.

 

If that's true, Qui-Gon's a dumbass. Join with the force, then tell Obi-wan. =)

[TheDarkSide]

Theforce.net had an interesting column that was referenced in a thread here about a week or so ago about Midichlorians. The theory proposed in the column was that first and foremost, you had to be on the Light side of the force to even have a chance of doing it. It is purported to be an extremely difficult skill to master and thus only the most powerful and dedicated Lights could do it. In essence, you give yourself back to the force, but the catch is that it is a conscious action on your part. If you don't know see it coming, you won't have the time or energy to pull it off.

 

The reason Palpatine blew up in the Death Star shaft was because upon his death, he was 'rejected' by the force so to speak. Upon dying, Dark Sith and dark jedi who attempt to do this are summarily destroyed by the Force, with the general thinking that since they spent their whole lives exploiting the Force for their own gain and 'taking' from the force without ever giving back to it.

 

Who knows...this didn't come from Lucas, but sounded the most plausible thought out theory...if I look hard enough I should be able to post the link for all who are interested. Give me a few minutes....

(edit: found it.... http://www.theforce.net/midichlorians/midi-lifedeath.shtml )

 

TDS