leelink Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Since I'm tired of people saying it cant be done and the people who know or pretend to know wont tell anyone I will give out the bind here. just bind this to a key and your set. this bind was written by me so give up the props ; ) set dfa1 "+forward ; +attack ; wait 10 ; wait 30 ; -attack; wait 130; +moveup; wait 100; -moveup; -forward" bind x dfa1 there you go guys. you might have to adjust the wait ticks a little bit but i doubt it. have fun. Note: dont hold down the key. just press it once. also I want to make it clear I do not use advanced binds myself nor the DFA bind. I perform all my moves natural and on the fly. No script can give you that advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazx Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 That's nice, but mine is a bit simpler... Since you have broken the sacred silence, I will let the world in on my secret: bind x "+attack;wait 85;+moveup;+forward;wait 20;-moveup" This is a little simpler than yours, and also prevents you from draining all your force on a failed attempt (due to the long amount of the jump command that is issued). The primary number to adjust is 85. This is a good number to get a DFA off 2 out of 3 times, but the fact that heavy stance starts with 3 different types of swings, you can't get a DFA to work 100% of the time. Also you may need to adjust 85 due to the speed of your computer. God help us all from the DFA spammers now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Bastards! Just what we need.. More idiots hopping around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelink Posted May 1, 2002 Author Share Posted May 1, 2002 like i said. i was only gonna spend an hour on it. actually took me about 15 mins but I was too lazy to clean it up the bind. My question is why withhold information. It doesnt help the community and it certainly wont make you a better player. It just puts those players who dont know how to do it at a disadvantage. Go and spam my pretties. Mohahahah, anyone need any other binds? I am also writting a Real strategy guide and will be putting up binds move list on my website. I will post the website information here once it is complete. Also please note I do not use the Bind myself for the Dfa move nor will i in the future. I personally find the dfa move to easy too counter and might use it once in a day. Even Noobs will have the counter mastered soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMadMax Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 I must note krazx that your version is totally unusable , first you ommitted "-attack;-forward " , second there is no pause between forward and jump . And I dont get what do u mean under "force draining". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warder808 Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Hi all, Im a binding newbie. Basically I want to know how to bind keys to typed phrases, for taunting and such. While Im at it, how do you get your name text and/or typed messages to appear in different colors? Where do u type this commands, in the .cfg file? warder808:saberr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazx Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 So many idiots, so little time... *sigh* Originally posted by leelink My question is why withhold information. It doesnt help the community and it certainly wont make you a better player. It just puts those players who dont know how to do it at a disadvantage. I do not withhold information, but this is what I would call an "unfair advantage". Not everyone will read this board. If I were to hand out this "DFA Bind", then I would be contributing to cheaters who only want to use the fastest and easiest way to rack up kills. That's like saying why don't I hand out my hack programs just because not doing so is withholding information. Sheesh. Oringinally posted by DarkMadMax I must note krazx that your version is totally unusable , first you ommitted "-attack;-forward " , second there is no pause between forward and jump . And I dont get what do u mean under "force draining". The problem here isn't me. It's you. Have you even tried the bind? Of course not, because you wouldn't be making a complete idiot out of yourself. To educate you, and anyone else who speaks/acts BEFORE thinking: You do not need -attack nor do you need -forward in the binds. Sorry. Also you do not NEED a pause between forward and jump. Do you even know how to do a DFA? First you have to be in heavy stance (you probably don't know that either), then press attack. You can be moving or standing still, that is optional. Then, after about half a second (depending on the animation), you press forward and jump AT THE SAME TIME! NO PAUSE!. Thank you. Next idiot please. Oringinally posted by warder808 Hi all, Im a binding newbie. Basically I want to know how to bind keys to typed phrases, for taunting and such. While Im at it, how do you get your name text and/or typed messages to appear in different colors? Where do u type this commands, in the .cfg file? Valid newbie question here. Bind keys to typed phrases: bind x "your message here" Name/text different colors: ^# [# = number of color] Example: ^1K^2r^3a^4z^5x Do a search, there is a post somewhere that explains each color code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 Leelink / Krazyx Both of yours will pull of the DFA for sure. But I think Leelinks gets around the timing issue because he start off with the +forward command first. That way you are always doing the same swing to start with so you can pull of the move everytime. Krazyx script works but sometimes the timing is thrown off like you said. So it depends on the swing. But since its started with +attack, I guess it could be any one of three swings. So there is a chance that DFA timing will be thrown off. I am not too concerned with people binding the DFA because it makes them very vulnerable to force push / saber throw. So if someone uses that on me, I am always on the lookout. But I am more concerned with people binding combos to keys. I was playing team FFA and this guy was owning everyone. So I went to spectator mode hoping to learn some moves. Anyway, I was watching him and he keep pulling off this combo in medium stance. I knew it was a script because he use the same exact move 100% of the time. And even when someone wasn't around him, he was doing it over and over like he pressed the key once too often. Now that I got a problem with. DFA is still one move. But the way he has the combo mapped, everyone was pretty much toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 I'd love to play people using these scripts. They sorta limit you; I like using the DFA randomly, out of backflips; sideflips, etc. In testing the scripts, I found that I also couldn't control the jump. What I mean is, being able to alter your jump so that you land the blow right where you need to. The script seems to force you to always jump the same length, which can leave you way past your intended target. Or leave YOU as the target! LOL Also, a big downside is that you can't abort the move like you can manually. Factor in the fact that it doesn't always work, and it becomes a problem, at least for me. Thanks, guys, for the scripts. I'll not use them, because they limit what I can actually do. Besides, it's more fun doing it manually! Tek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udi Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 The time for the wait for your bind Krazx seems to depend greatly on the current FPS... This would mean it might not work on different maps, or sections of a map. I had to put it up to 150 to get it to work reliably (when standing still and running). But then if my FPS dropped (from around 100-70 average) due to the map, the wait would be slighly too long... Plus it falls over bigtime if you happen to hold the key down (I know you shouldn't, but...) How is it possible to unbind a key, wait 50 cycles, then rebind it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazx Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 *sigh* I am giving up on this crap. LOL! Okay, my bind doesn't work Please don't use it then. Less DFA spam for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelink Posted May 2, 2002 Author Share Posted May 2, 2002 Originally posted by Krazx So many idiots, so little time... *sigh* I do not withhold information, but this is what I would call an "unfair advantage". Not everyone will read this board. If I were to hand out this "DFA Bind", then I would be contributing to cheaters who only want to use the fastest and easiest way to rack up kills. Your right not everyone will read this board and up until today only a few new how to bind the DFA move, so that would mean some people have had an unfair advantage for some time. I have evened the playing field more by providing the bind here. Cheaters will always cheat and I am sure cheaters have already had access to this bind, if not it doesnt matter because the bind alone is not a cheat. It allows you to do a move that is easily countered. Just run up to the person and backkick them as they are "getting up" or you can do it safer by strafekicking them if you prefer. then follow up with a heavy slice while thier laying on thier backs. they'll think twice before doing it again. also you yourself said on this forum that you were going to release the bind at a later date. careful who you call idiots please. krazx, I read that your witholding information on how to configure a server for netual powers only. Will I have to release this information also. I know how to do this also and would probably take about 2 hours to figure out. guess I'll have to get some more props : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazx Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 Originally posted by leelink careful who you call idiots please. That wasn't directed at you. You're cool. krazx, I read that your witholding information on how to configure a server for netual powers only. Will I have to release this information also. I know how to do this also and would probably take about 2 hours to figure out. guess I'll have to get some more props : ) Damn dude! Always stealing my spotlight! I've already submitted my guide to jkii.net and to sneaky buffalo's clan website. If you're resourceful you can figure it out. And if you repost it here, I wouldn't be surprised. All I care about is that I was the first to hack the game, first to run a dedicated server w/o heavy repeater or flechette gun, first to DFA bind, and a few other firsts. Now to move on to another game and rock that bish as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelink Posted May 2, 2002 Author Share Posted May 2, 2002 I apoligize about my earlier post. I just think everyone should know about these things. I realize our outlook on this is a little different so I will not persue the server information, unless it takes weeks to be released. I believe just recently (week ago) some people figured out how to set the servers up and figuring out the math is a real bitch. All I have to say is, people be resourceful. the information is out there and since krazx is having the information published I will not post on it. Sorry about exposing the DFA bind. I was unsure if you really new how to do the bind and was just blowing smoke about having it published. I now believe you know what your talking about. Friends? *big hug* ummm i mean handshake. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazx Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 lol, I don't care about you posting the DFA bind. I knew you were starting to not believe me... as well as were other people. I was practically handing the information out before, short of just telling people my bind config. They were bound to find out eventually. I don't hold hard feelings against anyone. This is the internet. I mean wtf... people take everything so seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMadMax Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 The problem here isn't me. It's you. Have you even tried the bind? Of course not, because you wouldn't be making a complete idiot out of yourself. Of course I tried it . And of course it doesnt work as it supposed to.Frankly imho its the worst script for DFA ever possible to made .It works only 10% of time and after it person who used it moves and swings around till he enters in console -forward and - attack . I think u should mature a little before blaming anyone in anything . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMadMax Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 And I want clerafi a little bit .DfA can be made from standing still and from running . So scripts gonna be a little different in both cases. With some tweaking standing still can be used when running , but the script for making DFA from both position gotta be a less reliable (cause timing is a bit different) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaydarin Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 Bastards!...... What is more unbalance than a noob who doesn t know anything and very skilled player that also know DFA . If you keep the DFA secret , i just think that you guys are playing morron to all the new player who wants to know more about the game ... I must admit that DFA , is a bit hard to perform , so i think a script isn t a bad idea ... ( personnally i don t use script cuz I never understand on how you script something , it s too hard for me ... =) ) By the way , i think there nothing to complain about DFA spammer... Sure it s an easy kill , but it s also easy to counter ...This give you a big advantage on the spammer since he will do only one move. If u can t manage DFA , then shame on you .... And don t complain how cheap is DFA ... Legend Of Khaydarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udi Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 So leelink, or Krazx, do either of you know of a simple effcient way of unbinding the key for a time period, then re-inding it after the time's up? (to avoid the bind from going crazy if the key is held down) I'm sure a search through some Quake binding tutorials would find this for myself, but then what's the point if you guys know already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelink Posted May 2, 2002 Author Share Posted May 2, 2002 you cant unbind it until the script has been completed. It wont let you issue new commands until the current commands have been completed. yes you can unbind a key for a period of time, but it wouldnt do any good because the unbind wouldnt take effect until the current actions were completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 Khaydarin, I never said I can't deal with the DFA. All I'm saying is that it's getting stupid and unfun to play against people who repeatedly DFA. I'd rather play against challenging people than have a stupidly high frag count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracofyre Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 All right! Now that the DFA script is floating around I'll have more opportunities than ever to practice blowing the morons out of the air. I just love seeing a spammer leap up, begin the DFA, and then either get pushed over an edge, or my personal favorite, sending a rocket up their ass. They learn quickly not to spam DFA. Especially if you drop a trip mine or two and then dodge out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swediot=) Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 im gonna have to run around like a headless chicken now rolling and wall jumping doge left dodge right oh well i guess it will be good finger exersice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 what i'd like to know is.. why is it meant to be some big secret anyway? if you think you're cool because you know how to write binds then you're a bit of a jackass aren't you? anybody with any decent gaming 'qualifications' would find it a breeze.. if you ever seriously played Quake 2, Half-Life, or any mod like CS.. you most likely will have scripting experience yet here you all are.. bragging like it's some big ultra cool skill you have.. how incredibly sad the gaming world has become *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UriDiuM Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 Pld Sephiroth, well said. All i seem to see is idiots doing constant DFA moves thats it!!! I,m sure they`d like me to think they are good, but i just laugh at them. Bit like camping in a dark corner on cs and shooting people in the back of the head all game, yes you get kills but its lame as fook and everyone thinks they are a skilless moron. This is the same thing and since i just read they are doing the patch to stop all this i,m now laughing even harder at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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