Jman3ooo Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 What should be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Nuke it. NF saber duels are just that, and tactical. Doesn't take much to throw and run; I'd rather have the DFA back in full effect!!! At least they're coming TOWARDS me! DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a proponent of the DFA, so NO FLAMES! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 What was the concept behind adding it in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blamer Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I would condone NF saber throw in the first version, just because in NF duel there was no other way to counter DFA against a player who was any good at all in 90% of situations. Now it just doesn't make sense...and I admit I'm a real throw spammer, if I see the other guy expose himself at all I just right-click instinctively. But the idea of NF duel is that it's slash against slash, and I thought the emphasis on sabering in the new version was supposed to be close-in fighting and sword-to-sword contact instead of just backing up with a Strong swing and hoping the other guy runs into it. I haven't played 1.03 yet but it would seem the duel would just go to whoever was best at saber throw, especially since Heal was nuked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reapy Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 So everyone can run away and whore the throw and there can be gay little throw fights back and forth becuase no one ever comes into saber range. Sundevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarus Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I do like throw in some cases but I think its over used. People seem to end up throwing more then fighting. In all of the Starwars movies I can only remember one situation where someone threw a saber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoKast Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Although it's better than DFA spamming, I do think it's abused. I use it if my opponent exposes himself as a thrower, and have won many and have lost to many due to throws tonight. I think it's not a bad move, it just needs to cost more force. You shouldn't be able to use it as often. I don't think a windup is that great because it's a good sneak attack to get a guy who's all over you to back off, yet if it had a windup, you'd get slaughtered before you got the throw off. It should be a reserve move for a defensive player, not a dominating offensive strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrin Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Saber Throw can be disabled on a No Force server, however many people do not yet know how to disable it. To make a true no force only server, you need to set the following in your config: seta g_forcepowerdisable "262143" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Now, doing anything other than throwing your saber constantly in a NF duel will be inviting your own death. Does anyone actually remember whether the community requested this or not? I sure as hell didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzzy Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 they should allow the throw in NF.. but the saber doesn't come back. Just goes dead and stops wherever it hits the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman3ooo Posted May 8, 2002 Author Share Posted May 8, 2002 Thats an idea... Have the throw dop as often as it does in SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twins of Doom Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 heres an idea: get out of the way, jump, move,do whatever the hell you wanna do.....they waste their force energy (therefore limiting their dodging abilities [jumping, moving, etc] and you don't take damage if you do it right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leagle Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 A true "no force" server would have no saber combat. You spend force points on all the saber moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 A true "no force" server would have no saber combat. You spend force points on all the saber moves. So you don't see the difference between swordfighting and using a mystical energy field to hurl and guide your sword? Wow...sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcwhtdtmc Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 Allowing you to knock the saber down (it doesn't go back to them) with a quick swat sounds good to me. That way people would use throw as sparingly as they do DFA (postpatch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracofyre Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 I really don't know wtf Raven was thinking of when they twinked saber throw, but I just couldn't believe it when I saw it. I was playing a ctf game in the warring factions map, and was acting as a bodyguard for our flag carrier. I noticed an enemy player heading our way so I lit my saber (it was saber only) went into medium stance and got ready to whup his ass. He stopped quite a good distance away and just stood there, when much to my surprise he chucked his saber at us. My first thought was "and your point being?" but the damn thing kept coming! I nearly wet myself when it made contact with me! After dispatching said enemy player, I found a nice semi-quiet area to see what was up with saber throw. I then launched my saber and just watched the saber just go and go and go and...well, you get the idea. I left the game with a sense of dissapointment in Raven. I was happy with the excellent job Raven did on adressing the issues with saber combat until today. What I want to know is this, why did Raven nerf the DFA only to give make saber throw as powerful, if not more, than the rest of the weaponry in the game. All of a sudden the saberists received an incredible kick in power, especially on the sabers vs guns servers. The thing is, is that I don't remember ANYONE asking Raven to fix saber throw. It was just fine the way it was. So come on Raven quit smoking crack and give us a balanced game. I thought I would get to get rid of this but... Raven:lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 It must have been a mistake...I just can't believe that they would do something so...idiotic. It's such a big change and it isn't even mentioned in the releases, which just points out to me more that it was some sort of error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracofyre Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 I really hope it was an accident that they twinked saber throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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