UsagiYojimbo Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Originally posted by gusogenus Does anyone now how to get through the mine level? Please help Check out the single player forum. Better yet go to gamefaqs.com and download the walkthrough guide. It helped me finished the game especially when I got stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThingAhMajig Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Originally posted by JediGhost[sITH] ThingAhMajig, no one asked for a lecture on morals here. I just said that I hit the guy in the back and it was blocked.. what kind of S*&T you smoking? It wasnt a lecure on morals... If I told you, thats not NICE... Dont do that.... we should all be friends... why not Throw down our sabers and befriend your fellow brother/sister!!! STOP THE KILLING!!!! instead of a lightsaber, we should have hmmmm.... Flowers!!!!! Killing is not nice... that would be morals... Obviously you missed the point... It was a socialogical obsorvation, and some suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrghman Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Originally posted by Cedrin Arrghman, okay so your 3-5 kill ratio went to 8-5.. Im talking about highly skilled players who usualy score ratio's of 10-0.. 10-1.. and so forth. oh i see... would you like to make any more incorrect assumptions today? or are you going to quit while you're behind? once again.. you're making stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levgre Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Hehe you guys suck at flaming oh, and just thought I'd like to say, backstab IS easy to avoid when your dueling. But when your in a free for all and can't check everyone at every possible moment, just one backstab heading your way is death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrin Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 The ones about you were for agrument's sake, however about the inexperienced players in general, those I have researched. I have watched stats on some of the servers I play on and been in contact with quite a few of the top ranking players for them. Almost all of them dislike the patch changes for the reasons I mentioned. This is from top ranking players, I doubt you are one of them unless you wish to show me your statistics on any servers you play on to clear this up. So stop talking out of ignorance and make a post for once with some support behind it. BTW, played on any FFA's servers lately? Checked out a few and it was very humerous. This one map consisted on a big battle field and about 10 guys in the middle doing backspin special attacks over and over again. Throughout the entire game hardly anyone use saber comabat and just tried to rack up as many kills possible spinning around in the middle. This is the same case with other maps also. Unfortunate Indeed. I remember FFA combat being fun and skillful in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzwilliamd Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 BTW, played on any FFA's servers lately? Checked out a few and it was very humerous. This one map consisted on a big battle field and about 10 guys in the middle doing backspin special attacks over and over again. Throughout the entire game hardly anyone use saber comabat and just tried to rack up as many kills possible spinning around in the middle. This is the same case with other maps also. Unfortunate Indeed. I remember FFA combat being fun and skillful in the past. Preach on, Master Cedrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrghman Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 Originally posted by Cedrin The ones about you were for agrument's sake, however about the inexperienced players in general, those I have researched. I have watched stats on some of the servers I play on and been in contact with quite a few of the top ranking players for them. Almost all of them dislike the patch changes for the reasons I mentioned. This is from top ranking players, I doubt you are one of them unless you wish to show me your statistics on any servers you play on to clear this up. So stop talking out of ignorance and make a post for once with some support behind it. okay, fine, so there are some experienced players who dont like the patch and whos kill ratios have dropped. but why? because its different and they dont want to learn the new system. other people, like myself who *have* taken the time to learn the new system (or who have played through the entire SP game) don't have this problem. the reason these people are so top ranking is because they've spent their time becoming attuned to the old system, learning it inside and out and developing a stragdy in it. and while its all well and good to develop a stragedy that's based on sabers passing through each other, being a good player also means being versitile and adaptive. these people simply need to take the time to relearn how to fight, then they'll be right up there on the top again. am I a top ranking player? i would never presume to say that i was better then people that i've never played against, i just dont have the arrogance or egotisim for that. but i generally wind up in the top two or three on a server, and usually by a relatively small margin. not always, but usually. it was like that prepatch, and its like that now. do i have stats? no, you'll just have to take my word for it... then again, we're all just taking your word for it when you say to have other top players who now are having difficulty, so i guess we're all on equal footing then... BTW, played on any FFA's servers lately? yeah, played on lots of them. had some really good big battles and duels. a few people tried to spam the backstab, and i avoided it most of the time. but i dont go to servers usually that have such wonderfully inciteful names as "the fart star", so i just must be playing somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 This happened to me once or twice. But most of the time, if I come up on someone typing and they pissed me off earlier, I can hit them in the back with red and it'll kill. Has anybody experienced this? Enemy spamming DFA at you (they STILL do it). They land, bury saber. I throw my saber at them, they somehow block, and pick their sabre out of the ground and spam again. Bleh. ShockV1.89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrghman Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 well yeah, but you gotta aim your saber. if your blade hits their blade, it will be a block. i dont think anything is more fun then throwing (or even swinging) at someones feet while their in the middle of DFA and killing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcmacman Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Originally posted by Arrghman have such wonderfully inciteful names as "the fart star" Ooohh boy.... i've played on my fair share of those servers.... not so fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzzy Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 > Welcome to the new SP MP 'Vision.' Haha, someone here plays or played EQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRoadkill Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 I've been pretty successfull hacking people down with Strong blows. Some blows get through, some dont. Anybody who complains about randomness has never been in a real fight. Lucky blows and lucky blocks are a factor in real life as well. I cant figure out what the fuss is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[bh] Jodo Kast Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 JediGhost[siTH] said: The Back Walking strategy: Run around BACKWARDS while swinging the saber. Believe it or not, it works the best. *end of quote* Also, someone complained that their special moves aren't working, like DFA, and they don't like this new back walking cheat. For the rest of us with ping of 10 -30, swordfighting is MUCH more realistic. Your question JediGhost[siTH] and all the rest is: He keeps running at me swinging and swinging! Answer: You back off and wait for him to stop. He is swinging a laser-sword. You ALSO have enhanced saber blocking so it's not as effective, but you can't fight a chicken with his head cut off! Stop trying! Play the rest of us who actually know what we are doing but do it differently than you. I'll give you a good fight! *ASC* Jodo Kast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediGhost[SITH] Posted May 16, 2002 Author Share Posted May 16, 2002 You assume I have a question/problem? I never said anything as n00bish as that! I don't need any help ... And I like it when they run at me swinging because it gives me a chance to hit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple switch Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 I have to say i don't like the ways the combat system can be exploited. Having played pre-patch only on lan with friends, I can't really claim to be an authority on it. But i found the strong style could just whup pretty much anything, esp. bots, so long as you keep from getting shot up in the vulnerable times and time your swings. After only a while of play post-patch, i have found that if you know how you can take out players reliant on ANY one strategy. While i don't like the rear attack's ludicrous damage, it can be stopped. In fact, you can use their reliance against them. You just need to watch where they are, where you are, and time your swings. ANY attack results in a vulnerable period - the test of a good player (I make NO claims to BE a good player, some of this is from observation rather than experience.) is adapting to and exploiting an opponent's style. Your one-move reliant opponent will be stopped, as you can counter their only strategy and pound them mercilessly. Bear in mind also that even if your opponent tries to block some damage is dealt to them on the strong style. You can whittle them away while all they are doing is reacting - taking an aggressive, active approach is duly rewarded. I do dislike the lower damage dealt though - if a lightsaber can carve through a steel wall it should do pretty gruesome things to a person. The patch switches a few things round, and yes superior blocks stop spatial awareness being dominant - but isn't dominance of any one approach a thing to complain about? Adaptability and mastery of different strategies should be the keys, not one uber-move or technique. Apologies for any ranting - it just kinda happens, y'know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twins of Doom Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 oh i see, then i must be inexperienced then? its very nice of you to try and generalize like this, but sadly like all generalizations and preconceptions, its wrong. i know many experienced players who have been playing this game since the day that it came out, like myself, who like the game even better now with the patch. i could beat people prepatch, and i can beat people now... and i very rarely used DFA or backstab. i personally have no problem with those who do, because its relatively easy to avoid... if i get killed by either, its my fault for slipping up and leaving myself open. AMEN! you said it alright, I was good before patch and I still am just as good, and i don't run around spamming moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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