Since aotc, Ep 3-6 Suck

[Exar]

Just tried watching the original trilogy for the first time since aotc and i couldnt handle it. it looked so campy and cheezy compared to they eye candy im used to now. How can george lucas show us something like this and expect us to believe it fits in with the original trilogy. even the special edition trilogy feels just blah. i just dont think ill ever be able to watch the original 4-6 ever again unless they remake em or something (yeah right). I dont care if george lucas is involved or what the story is about it would be very cool if they continued making star wars movies. (just a dream im sure;) )

[DannyJAllTheWay]

Yeah, it's going to be different cuz fo the eras in which he made the original Episodes 4, 5, 6 and that which he is making the new ones.

[brosser_1999]

I know what you mean...

 

I watched ESB and ROTJ last night and it just seemed so different. Im not saying the new or original movies are better than one another. The movies seem different.

[Tiran Dev]

Lucas is just competing with the movies of a new generation. For their day, remember, the originals were top-of-the-line and very expensive to make; as are Episodes I and II for the new generation of SW fans. I completely agree with you, though, the one BIG difference is the lightsaber battles in all their intensity now, versus the boring quick slaps on the wrists in the original trilogy.

 

[Tyrion]

The OT had a special feeling when you see it.Like when C3-PO and R2-D2 get captured by jawas, you see 15 seconds of them walking with no words, it's great.These new movies give you no rest.Let me show you a scene-

 

Obi-wan just dropped into that hover car.

 

Obi-wan:do you think you could catch me quciker next time,Anakin?

 

Anakin:sorry master, I know how you hate flying.

 

Obi-wan then said something about he likes flying but not reckless flying,and then Anakin jumps out onto the bounty hunter's car.

 

then a big massacre happens,where anakin tries to stop the car, then he gets saved by obi-wan, then cue in the bar scene.

 

What's worse is that is the most quiet scene....

 

And, there is loud music in every scene.

 

And I bet you cant guess my age from this post.I'll give you a hundred dollars if you can guess my age.

[Rogue Nine]

Lucas is just going with current movie trends. If he didn't and followed the "old-school" style of the OT, then it wouldn't appeal to the mass public as it has. It's all about marketing.

 

You have to put it in perspective. Tiran said it best. The OT was high-tech for that time period. Sure, it may look campy and outdated by today's standards, but just think, twenty or so years from now, movies then are going to put moives of today to shame. It's all about perspective.

 

The OT will always be classic cinema to me. I don't look down upon them as inferior in quality to the movies of today. And I feel sorry for you if the movies of today have spoiled your view of these classic films.

[Exar]

I understand that the action is done differently in movies nowadays, due mostly to eastern influence, but it is definitely more exciting and entertaining to watch. But not only that, the art direction and cininematography is simply amasing in aotc, making the movie very immersive. Even episode 1 is kinda blah compared to this! I agree the action and overall pace is a little too fast (not the saber battles though), and goes beyond the realm of believability sometimes, and some scenes were dragged out a little too long (like the chase scene) i consider those complaints to be aimed at george lucas's story telling ability, not the movies visuals.

And rogue nine, i feel sorry for myself too

[xwing guy]

I agree after seeing these prequels and the watching the oringnals again, the OT seems so cheesy and cheap for nowadays, but it was made "back in the day" when it was good for its time. I like the fast pace of Ep. 2, it really let it build up to the final battle, and IMO the clones and the confedracy going at it was pure awesome, and the jedi in the genosain arena, and yoda and count dooku going at it, I just think that the battle with count Dooku was too short and that Yoda should have killed him, maybe he'll do that in Ep. 3.

[Vestril]

I guess we all have different tastes. I enjoy the OT and the new movies, they're different, but I like them just the same.

[Kurgan]

IMHO ESB had more spiritual turmoil, more drama, more witty dialouge and better romance (at least they don't beat you over the head with it and it's funny) than Ep2.

 

I love the SFX and eye candy of Ep2, it's got some great action, and Ep 1 has some great spectacle (the senate chamber, coruscant, the pod race, etc), but Return of the Jedi had more action for my money than either movie, even if the saber duelists didn't do tons of flips around the room.

 

I enjoyed all the films a great deal, but I'd rank Ep2 on the level of ANH AT BEST, simply because ANH is so slow moving and really was my least favorite, just didn't have that much for me (never was) except for the Death Star battle (and laughing at Luke's whiny lines, lol). It had it's moments, much like Episode I, though.

 

I'd rank them:

 

Return of the Jedi (my fav, most action, coolest overall)

Empire Strikes Back (I know, it's "deeper" than ROTJ, but has less action and cool scenes IMHO)

A New Hope - Attack of the Clones (tie, the original and another action packed prequel)

The Phantom Menace (fun, but Jar Jar and Anakin are annoying, kinda sluggish, like ANH)

 

I guess what's really missing from the prequels thus far (other than a character "like" Han Solo, which we need more than more characters like Jar Jar) are epic space battles. The one's we've gotten thus far have just been really lackluster compared to the ones in the OT. But the ground battles in the prequels have been pretty darn cool, I must admit, especially the saber duels.

[Vestril]

I guess what's really missing from the prequels thus far (other than a character "like" Han Solo, which we need more than more characters like Jar Jar) are epic space battles. The one's we've gotten thus far have just been really lackluster compared to the ones in the OT. But the ground battles in the prequels have been pretty darn cool, I must admit, especially the saber duels.

 

Funny, isn't it? The lack of a Han-like character is definitely what I've felt, myself. Also, it's interesting to me that I find the Space Battles much more engaging in the OT, even though they were worse, FX wise. I guess they were just the bigger focus, I honestly can't think of a movie that nearly rivaled the OT, especially RotJ, in terms of Space Battles.

[Bungalow]

Telling by your avatar you must be somewhere along the line of 10-50

am I right?

Do I get the 100 bucks?

[Zindell]

The prequels dont compare to the originals at all for me. I like the style in which the were made. Maybe I just don't judge a movie on it's special effects, and then the dialogue and plot.

 

I reverse it. Plot and dialogue, Cinematography etc. special effects probably fit in near the end somewhere. but that's just me. I work in a video store and have probably just seen too many movies.

[Rogue Nine]

I agree with Kurgan. The Original Trilogy certainly does have a decided edge over the prequels in terms of space battles. You can't beat both Death Star runs by the X-wings. There's just something so classic about the X-wing vs. TIE Fighter match-up. The prequels can't replicate that.

 

[Murdoch]

Amen! And also, i believe that if you don't absolutely have to use computer animation you shouldn't.

[Exar]

heh, maybe iv just watched the OT too much, but calling it better than aotc or tpm because of it story and script is rediculous. The OT movies had some rediculously unbeleivable plot points happen it them, just as much as aotc if not more. not to mention the fact that lucas had to rehash his deathstar idea for rotj because he couldnt think of a more powerfull threat to beat to wrap the OT up. also, i just cant see mark hammil and carrie fisher as hayden and natalies kids (carrie fisher almost seems manly compared to portman). I think anyone who argues that OT is better because of the script hasnt paid enough attention while watching them.

I like star wars, i like the overall concepts involved and the overall story line. i like the visual atmoshere in star wars, but i have always felt that the particulars of the story, and the script\dialogue were always the weakest part of star wars, in all of the movies. So, thinking that the scripts are all equally as weak, i can only judge upon the entertainment value of any of them. Im sure without cgi imagery, Ep 1-2 would probably have sucked as much as OT as far as visuals.

[Tyrion]

yeah, you're right Bungalow!!!You will recieve you hundred dollars in monopoly money in 3577!

[Zindell]

The overall storyline and plot developments were so much better, The traditional swordfighting lightsaber battles with diologue in between was so much better, none of this JAcky Chan Crouching Tiger Bull****. He tried to combine the two in AOTC with the dooku fight which yes was good. The storyline for AOTC is so linear though. nothing is left to the imagination.

 

TPM they get chased by a giant fish, OT they are inside the stomach of a beast and don't even know it.

 

My best guess is to say that the people who find the newer movies to be better are in a much younger age demographic, probably mine. but don't have the respect for the older classics.

Tron, Dune now those are sci-fi movies. Exar how old are you may I ask?

 

Do you have any imagination in you for these unbelievable plot developments or has television fried your mind.

 

Comparing the look of the actors is even funnier, I'm guessing that ranks supreme in a good movie. How hot the princess is. Now I know where your coming from thank you for that little insight. If they aren'T hot the movies no good. I forgot about that little rule. They look the style of the times, I'm sorry but if I saw hayden christianson the little pretty boy that he is. Don't touch the hair or I'll cry (hardly threatening) Style. Over luke who truly looks like he's led the farmers life. Carrie fisher is hardly Mannish, I'm guessing you judging her by one of your all time favorite movies, for it's extremly well done script and storyline, and dont forget it has hot people so it must be good. Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back. Let's see how the test of time ravages away at natalie portman's face and you can judge her then. when your kids tell you how mannish she looks. but if you can please don't procreate. your ignorance alone is enough for this world to handle.

[shidobu]

I liked the OT better ,mostly because the prequels seem IMHO, to be forced, almost as though Lucas feels that he owes SW fans the backstory to his space-drama, but his heart really isn't in it. The prequel trilogy has shallower characters [ probably because many of them are dependant upon their characters in the OT], and It feels when watching the movies, that much of the continuity is gone, unlike the OT, which needed continuity in order to establish itself.

[Zindell]

yeah OT rules, nuff said.