Breton Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Originally posted by Jaster21801 Lemme link it together for you then... and From seeing all of the movies (with the exception of Ep III), we know that Palpatine is a Sith Lord. He trains Vader and we see him using the force to emit lightning from his fingertips. You also can't deny the blatant similarities between Sidious and Palpatine in the scenes where Sidious is talking with Maul and in RotJ when Palpatine is speaking with Vader upon his arrival to the Death Star. So, in conclusion, we know they're both Sith Lords, we know they both wear the same thing, we know that they are the same height (as MotionMan said, the height different would be due to the cloak, .03 meters is all of 1 1/5 inches in case you're here in America) and we know they both play all sides of the battles in question. They're the same person. You must realize this. edit: not to mention they're played by the same actor. First about your quotes, wich do not appear in this quote. The first one was from Sids databank, but the second one was from Palps. So i do not understand what you wish to accomplish with these quotes. I can agree that they are both sith lords, I can not agree with the height. The cloak can not be more thick than 0,5-1 cm, so they ARE different heights. They look like each other too, they sounds like each other, they both fight for the same cause. That is why i think they are brothers. Imagine in ep3, Sid finally meets Yoda, and is batteling him, Sid with his scimitar saber. After a long and intense battle, Yoda slices the head of Sid. Now, Palps come forward to Yoda, wich make Yoda very puzzeled, since he thought he had just killed Palpy. Palpy says to Yoda "You have fought against us for many years, Yoda. But you can never destroy the power of the dark side. And now, master yoda....you shall die!" With these words, Palps send a large amount of lightning against Yoda, wich hits him hard. Windu, wich have just come in on the area, sees that, and thinks Palp have killed Yoda, and is therefore attacking Palp with an imense amount of rage, but Palp use lightning again and fryes Windu almost dead. Now Boba comes and Palp leaves the rests of Windu to boba, who kills Windu for good. And thinking Yoda is dead, Palps leave with Vader to think of new evil plans for the empire. And Yoda, nearly dead, manages to recover a bit, and travels to dagobah to fully recover from this heavy attack. This is just a theory. Would be quite cool to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 You are also forgeting that there could only be 2 siths. Thus disproving your theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 But what if Palp was only a dark jedi before sid died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 I dont think there are any dark Jedi in the movies. That is only an EU thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionen Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Please stop this. You cant imagine how ridicolous it sounds. Palpatine and Darth sidious is the same person. I cant understand why you would NOT think so. From where did that rumor start really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Im guesing from the EU books. Because in the EU books Palpy/Sidious has like 20 clones made of him. This is after ROTJ though. They are just incorperating those IDEAS to the prequels as well. Ideas: meaning that Palpatine and sidious are different people. That Sidious might be a clone or in this case his brother. I really dont know why some refuse to beleive the obvious. That Palpatine and Sidious are the same person. Just like: PeterParker=Spiderman Clark Kent = Superman Bruce Banner =TheHulk Bruce Wayne=Batman Count Dooku=Darth Tyranus Anakin Skywalker=Darth Vader Palpatine=Darth Sidious ect, ect, ect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaster21801 Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 MotionMan and Lionen are right dude, this is painfully obvious. A) Dark Jedi do not exist in the movies, only in games and comics. B) Dooku TOLD Obi-Wan that the Republic was being run by a Sith Lord (i.e. Palpatine). C) A burlap sack type of cloak could be the 3 centimeters we're talking about here. Look over the facts and you'll see that Palpatine and Sidious MUST be the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtroop Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 mace windu will kill darth tyrinous thats my guess anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Originally posted by Jaster21801 MotionMan and Lionen are right dude, this is painfully obvious. A) Dark Jedi do not exist in the movies, only in games and comics. B) Dooku TOLD Obi-Wan that the Republic was being run by a Sith Lord (i.e. Palpatine). C) A burlap sack type of cloak could be the 3 centimeters we're talking about here. Look over the facts and you'll see that Palpatine and Sidious MUST be the same person. a) Even though the jedi thought sith was enstinct, they were afraid of people falling to the dark side. b)Palp and Sid was in for the same cause, and therefore Sid was kind of controlling the senate. c) Sids cloak was far from 5 cm thick, more like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn a) Even though the jedi thought sith was enstinct, they were afraid of people falling to the dark side. b)Palp and Sid was in for the same cause, and therefore Sid was kind of controlling the senate. c) Sids cloak was far from 5 cm thick, more like 1 *SIGH* I gave you all the evidence you needed to see that it is one person. You wont change your mind even if George Lucas tells you himself:) Anyhow we will see who is right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arghh29 Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Well, I dont see how anakin can do it. Its pretty much well known that obi wan whoops up on anakin. It wouldnt make sense that Obi wan could handle anakin, and windu couldnt. I think it will be palpatine/sideous. As for the debate to if palpatine and sideous are the same person. Of course they are. I think that is explained not only on starwars.com, but also by the fact that the same actor who plays senator palpatine, also plays the emporer in ep 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 holy geez, i'm gone from these forums for 3 days, and suddenly we have all these crazy ideas being thrown around like crazy.... Palpatine = sideous. They ARE the same person. If they are brothers, talk alike, and look alike, then why doesn't anybody know about it? Wouldn't somebody notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Originally posted by ET Warrior holy geez, i'm gone from these forums for 3 days, and suddenly we have all these crazy ideas being thrown around like crazy.... LOL you missed alot. I did my best to guide the lost souls in the right direction;) *check out my last post in the SW humor lines. See if you like them:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_of_Shadows Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 I think that Palpatine will finally give up his charade and come out to start slaughtering the Council with Lightning. :duel:like this> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 It would be so funny if mace slipped and bumped his head on a rock and died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Mace and yoda walking the halls of the jedi temple. Yoda: "Disturbing this news of palpatine is....a sith he was all this time, and we knew not." Mace: "I suppose it is time for one of us to go F*** him up.." Yoda: "Yes...but which one of us shall it be? Mace: "Well, I've never faced a sith....and you did fight Dooku....so i was thinking..." Yoda: "Okay, fight Sideous, you shall." Mace: "Hell yes! I'm gonna ram my saber so far up his.. *Mace trips over his robes and falls down the stairs, breaking his neck* Yoda: "damn...others will say i pushed him....say that i was jealous of his bad motherf*****ness they will......hide i must...on degobah.....yes..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 :rofl: :lol: lol that was pretty much what I was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murtaugh Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Mace.. die?... NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Yup....mace dies....he'll be dead......uber dead. No comin back for mace windu...no siree... The Jedi you should be most upset about is Plo Koon. HE is going to die!!! PLO KOON!!! It's a sad sad thing when plo koon dies... incase you are wondering Murtaugh...plo koon is the guy in my avatar...isn't he cute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Originally posted by ET Warrior Yup....mace dies....he'll be dead......uber dead. No comin back for mace windu...no siree... Mace will be back in one of the upcoming EU books;) He will be cloned or brought back somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Chrono_MOT- Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 He would have to be cloned, considering in AOTC he is about 45 years old...that would make him 70 in ANH, and 76 after ROTJ and the beginning of the Thrawn Trilogy. A very old Jedi would he be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Originally posted by -Chrono_MOT- He would have to be cloned, considering in AOTC he is about 45 years old...that would make him 70 in ANH, and 76 after ROTJ and the beginning of the Thrawn Trilogy. A very old Jedi would he be. I was being sarcastic:) I forgot my little sidekick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Kun II Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 The server change makes people insane. Mace will die. But you can be sure he will go down fighting(maybe, Sidious himself). And when he is done and lying dead with the other Jedi, his enemies will say ". . .damned, that was a bad motherf*cker. . .". and someone else will say ". . .that's what it said on his lightsaber. . .". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTT[-FcG-] Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Just thought you guys might like to see this quote from sam L jackson on Ep 3.. Jackson knows only one thing about his character's fate. "I die in the next film. But I want to have a say in it," insists Jackson. "When I go, I don't want to get shot in the back by some bounty hunter-little Bobo twerp. When I go I, want to be facing him, and he has to be better than me." You could read into this 2 ways... 1) Mace is gonna go out in a blaze of glory much as Bormomir did in the LOTR film. 2) Heres what could have happened! George "Oh by the way Sam... You die in episode 3!" Sam L Jackson "Ummm... Maaaan... Thats Harsh motherf****r... How do I get taken out?" George "Aaaah... You get shot in the back by a 13 year old Boba Fett" Sam L Jackson "WHAT THE... I dont wanna go out like some damn punk george!" Sam the goes and tells the whole world that 'All the jedi die in episode 3' and also his above statement to try and get george to change his mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTT[-FcG-] Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Another thing also bugs me... Many of you are saying that because leia recounts to luke the memories of her mother that Padme must survive to the end of episode 3 and beyond for leia to grow up under her care!!! You must try to remember that Leia was adopted by bail Organa and his wife so it IS feasible that Padme dies in Episode 3 which could be the catalyst for turning anakin over to the dark side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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