Derisor Posted June 26, 2002 Posted June 26, 2002 Ive heard that GTKradient is easier to use and more mature. So which one do you all use. Is it even possible to use GTKradient ?
Xcom Posted June 26, 2002 Posted June 26, 2002 If you are a beginner, it won't make much difference to you (if we speak about functionality). However, at more advanced level, GTK is a blessing. ps: (as you may have guessed, I use GTK)
Grets Sirob Posted June 26, 2002 Posted June 26, 2002 I personally use GTK, but that's only because jkr stopped working after I reloaded. I don't think either of them is "better" they're just slightly different. I'd try one, and if it works for you, go with that, if not, try the other. There is no "better" one. Hey, you there!
Derisor Posted June 26, 2002 Author Posted June 26, 2002 I am a beginner. But then perhaps I should start out on the best one. What are the differences? Is JK2radient put out by Lucasarts or something ? Who makes them ?
Ah Boon Posted June 26, 2002 Posted June 26, 2002 jk2Radient is from Ravensoft. i uses jk2R cause most of RD's tuts uses jk2R so its easier for me to check out this tuts and learns stuffs. u can find his tuts somewhere... look for RichDiesel's thread.
Emon Posted June 26, 2002 Posted June 26, 2002 JK2Radiant is a worthless, unstable, horribly crappy peice of crap. GTKRadiant is what you want, you can get it from http://www.qeradiant.com.
RichDiesal Posted June 26, 2002 Posted June 26, 2002 Originally posted by Emon JK2Radiant is a worthless, unstable, horribly crappy peice of crap. Only if you don't have a gentle touch and a lack of patience. It is the editor with more finesse.
Jango_Fett91 Posted June 26, 2002 Posted June 26, 2002 I would rather use JK2 Radient Than GTK because all my textures are missing on GTK:(
UniKorn Posted June 26, 2002 Posted June 26, 2002 Originally posted by RichDiesal Only if you don't have a gentle touch and a lack of patience. It is the editor with more finesse. *chuckle* GTKRadiant all the way. JK2Radiant is for people who look for trouble
D.L. Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 I alternate between both. Depends on which Icon I find faster No major difference I think
Redvan Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 just whatever you do, never use JK2Rad then try to edit a map made on that on GTK, runs slow, looks bad, at least on my comp.
D.L. Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 That's weird. They are both .map files so there should be no difference. Photoshop and Paint Shop Por still open jpg files even if one was used to edit it.
aazell Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 I've tried both and found that JK2 Rad was far easier to set up and get started with. Configuring GTK is too longwinded for a newb whose just trying to learn the ropes. I've never had either crash on me at all. I'd recommend JK2 Rad to a newb. aaz
DireTan Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 JK2 Radiant ROXXOR YOUR BOXXORS no seriously there are more Tutorials and I got used to it faster..
Emon Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 More tutorials for JK2Radiant?? YOU ARE FOOLS! The tutorials will work for GTKRadiant, EFRadiant, MoHRadiant, Q3Radiant, anything as long as it is not game specific like ICARUS 2 for JO, and in the case of GTK vs JK2 for JO, it doesn't matter. You can even use old QERADIANT tutorials made for QUAKE II on any of the newer Q3 based Radiants. A lot is the same. RichDeisal, what are you smoking?? JK2Rad doesn't even let you clone brushes, because you get a memory error. Vertex dragging is ****ed out of the wazoo, and it crashes like crazy.
Anakin Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 Ok the only problem with GTKRadient is that I have no FX files in it, so I cant create Rain, snow or anyother effects. I dont know If I have to edit the qe4 file in the scripts folder, but I just doesnt want to work. Anyhelp would be great, as switching from JKradient to GTKRadient is reallllyyyyyy annoying all the time!
Redvan Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 there is probably more for GTK i would think, hasn't it been out longer? But as for the slowness, i have no idea, mabe its just my comp, which i doubt.
Manquesa Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by Emon Vertex dragging is ****ed out of the wazoo, and it crashes like crazy. Actually I use both editors and prefer the vertex editing in JK2R over GTKR. Anyway, like I said, I use both editors: JK2R: Most of my map building takes places here, including texturing, lighting, entities, compiling and so on. Shows curves properly in editor. GTKR: I use this for extra editiing control for certain situations Accurately selects the brush you want, not some other brush you didn't even click on. multiple face texturing, this feature is a godsend. separate patch mesh surface inspector, not sure if it's better than JK2R's or not but I use it Oh and also: EFRadiant: to purge evil poly's (only because i'm too lazy to copy the plugin file to JK2R)
Xcom Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by Manquesa Shows curves properly in editor. What do you mean by "properly"? Actually, I assume that you mean that GTKR doesn't display them properly. Elaborate.
Manquesa Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 mainly i'm refering to cylinders, it draws them on the grid more like multi-faced brushes than cylinders. They show up fine in the 3d window but I just find it very annoying to look at the grid and see these rigid sometimes diamond shaped cylinders(if they're small) when they should be round. Jk2R shows them the way they actually are on the grid, which is round.
Emon Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 Vertex editing in JK2R over GTKR? I take it you like your verticies to deform in completely random form in the way that you didn't even want it to...
RichDiesal Posted June 27, 2002 Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by Emon RichDeisal, what are you smoking?? JK2Rad doesn't even let you clone brushes, because you get a memory error. Vertex dragging is ****ed out of the wazoo, and it crashes like crazy. I've never experienced any sort of random crash in Jk2Radiant... maybe you should learn to use the software before you start fooling around with it? Also, I clone brushes all the time. I use this neat tool called the space bar. You should try it. If your computer crashes when you use it, well.. I'm sorry your computer sucks so much. And vertex editing works just fine... Never had a problem with it either. And there are an awful lot of vertex-edited curves on duel_kamino, so if there was something wrong with it, I'd think I would know... Just sayin. Oh, and I do use GTK occasionally (I'm not ignorant of its features) but only for the plugins. All brush/curve/etc building I do in JK2R.
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