mez1109 Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Anakin's mother says that he was born, whithout the usual sexual intercourse (how polite), then he must be Jesus. I bet with you lot that the mother is lying. Oh...I don't know who the father is, or I am not sure, SHE is LYING. I laugh if Luke's grandpa is Darth Lord Sidious. Anakin I am your father, join me. Qui Gon was a bit of a rebel, you never know. Still, pis* take to the side, who could his father be, every one has a father, even Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub_Woofer Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Whats a bet its that Dooku Bloke. Seriously, think about it. Anakin idolizes the guy... Remember Dooku's funky chain cape? Looks like Vader is crampin on the Dook's style. In Episodes 4-6 Vader has a similar type of cape. Also, Vader repeats all of Dooku's catchprases, such as "You must join me and together...." and a few others I can't remember. They both also seem to have a uber cool deep voice too, although Anakin didn't start of with one, not until after he met Dooku. Hmm... Lets face it, Anakin loves the guy so much, that when he turns into Vader he just tries to be more like him, they both are big, tall, powerful and look good in black. Now, I reckon Vader wasn't even original with the whole "I am your father" buisness. Whats a bet he just stole it from Dooku, who will reveal himself as Anakins father in Episode 3. Anakin's mom is just so embarassed that she was knocked up by a sithlord, that she makes up some bullcrap "messiah" birth story, like a second rate Bible prophet. *this was a joke.... don't take it too seriously folks... I know some star wars fans get odd when someone tries to prove them wrong* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 oh good, i thought you were serious for a bit, and i was wondering why you'd think anakin liked Dooku...after he tried to kill him and all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 Anakin's mother says that he was born, whithout the usual sexual intercourse (how polite), then he must be Jesus. So people who get artificially enceminated today give birth to jesus's? Anyhow Maybe she was artificially enceminated somehow and she doesnt remember. I mean SW takes place in the future. You think they dont have any drugs or methods that they could put you to sleep through the process or make you forget a period of time? Well maybe Dooku used "force memory erase" and "Force mating" to get Shmi pregnant;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy_Of_Sith Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 Anakin's mother says that he was born, whithout the usual sexual intercourse (how polite), then he must be Jesus. Don't joke about stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Ben Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Originally posted by MotionMan I mean SW takes place in the future Actually Star Wars is in the past. Like it says at the begining of the movie a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Just because Shmi had an appearantly virgin birth doesn't mean it has to be a direct reference to Christianity. There are many instances of the ancient gods impregnating unsuspecting women (one result of this kind of union being Hercules). And we know that Lucas draws from Greek and Roman mythology in his writing. That said, I think Palpatine is Anakin's father, though we'll never find that out in the movies. I don't believe Shmi came from Tatooine, she has too regal a bearing. My theory is that she was a member of the Royal House of Alderaan visiting Coruscant. She was seduced by then-Senator Palpatine and became pregnant with his child. Rather than cause a scandal (which could end his political career and ruin all of his plans for Sith domination in his own lifetime), he convinced her to keep the identity of the child's father a secret (I don't care what you say--say there WAS no father, for all I care...). On her way back to Alderaan, her shuttle was attacked by the Hutts (who were tipped off by Palpatine as Darth Sidious) and everyone aboard was either killed or taken as slaves. Hense, the royal mother ends up owned by Gardulla the Hutt on Tatooine and has a child who has no father. I wrote a fan fic based on this theory and if you want to take a look at it, here's a link: The Son of Skywalker. There's also a nice little sub-plot involving Khamier Sarin before he took the name Darth Maul. I think it turned out pretty well, with the exception of the very end (I need to go back and tweak it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Originally posted by Old_Ben Actually Star Wars is in the past. Like it says at the begining of the movie a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. I dont know why im going to respond to this since it is super OBVIOUS. If it says "A long time ago" in a SW flick: EVEN if it is acient SW past. It is still way into the future of our current time. Think about how long into OUR future it will be to travel to other plantes or to even poulate an entire galaxy worth of planets. Well Inhabit alot of the planets. Anyhow I dont have much time now to go into it more. More later;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Aye, it's sort of like a grandpa in the SW universe telling his grandson stories of what happened way back when..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted July 3, 2002 Author Share Posted July 3, 2002 Jedi_Monk story is very believable isn't it? You should write for Lucas. For those people that think that pregnancy without the partner does not make you Jesus, true, but Anakin's mother didn't talk about a sperm doner, even if a sperm was donated, then Anakin would still have a father (the donar of the sperm). The way Shmi explained her pregnancy made it seem like Anakin is a Messiah, but it was obvious that she was lying, I just don't get why Qui Gon wasn't suprised about that. The theory that Shmi was not from that planet, must be true, as she has no other family there, neither would she survive in that hell hole and have a child. The quote "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away", never really took much notice of it, but what if we are in the future, and they are in the past. The last Jedi's of the old republic returned to their original home planet earth, cool, I am, no sorry WE are a Jedi's ancestor, no wonder we kicked every animal's ass on this planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcceptableRisk Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 It'd be fitting if Palpy were in some way linked to the birth of Anakin, but I don't think that he is his father. If he is, then it'd be rather strange that Vader can't destroy his son, but Palpy has no second thoughts of killing either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RectalFury Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 That isn't that odd. Vader had good left in him, but Palpatine seems purely evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 If we are talking about a galaxy far far away, then the same explination I gave earlier applies to it also. The Galaxy far, far away had to one day be in the same state as us. Then they advanced themselves with technological tools and methods that made them be able to travel all over their galaxy. So in THEIR future they would have these type of drugs methods I was talking about. It was just an idea. Im not sure if thats what was done to Shmi. It will be explained more in ep.3(I hope). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Didn't Qui Gon say he thought the meticlorians made her pregnant by their willing so to speak? If that were the case then Anakin's father is the force itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Aye, here is QuiGon adressing the council Yoda: "More to say, you have, QuiGon?" QuiGon: "With all due respect, i believe i have found a vergence in the force." Yoda: "A Vergence, you say?" Mace: "Centered around, a person?" QuiGon: "A Young boy, his cells have the highest midichlorian concentration i have ever seen in a life-form. It is possible he was concieved by the midichlorians themselves." So QuiGon believes that Anakin was created by the force, not by God as you are saying Mez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaster21801 Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 I thought it was more like this... Yoda: "More to say, you have, QuiGon?" QuiGon: "With all due respect, I believe I have found a vergence in the force." Yoda: "A Vergence, you say?" Mace: "Centered around, a person?" QuiGon: "No around this bag of potato chips, it has the highest midichlorian concentration i have ever seen. It is possible they were concieved by the midichlorians themselves." Yoda: "High in cholesterol these potato chips are" QuiGon: *slaps himself* "CHOLESTEROL! Potato chips are high in cholesterol!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Ya I think thats how it went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman26 Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 anakin being jesus is the same rumor as the matrix having huge ties 2 the bible.(which i heard it was conicdental) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle d'Tana Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 Well, do not make jokes about jesus or something like that! Many people will hurt that, cause they belive in him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted July 4, 2002 Author Share Posted July 4, 2002 Anakin is made by midichlorians, then he be still a messiah, but in this case as Jedi Messiah, the force being the unknown mistical force in the Star Wars Universe. Did the midichlorians just decide to create Anakin, or was it done with purpose by other people, such as Sith. Still, that is the most stupid explonation I ever heared, Anakin being created by the force, that is just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 Hey, don't shoot the messenger! That is what Qui Gon said in the film, I was just pointing it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 Did the midichlorians just decide to create Anakin, or was it done with purpose by other people, such as Sith. Still, that is the most stupid explonation I ever heared, Anakin being created by the force, that is just dumb. If there was a prophecy the council knew about before Anakin was even born then there was a reason that he was born this way. The Jedi comunicate with the midiclorians. They knew one day "a chosen one" would be born. So to answer your question: The Midichlorians dicided to creat Anakin. Anyhow wait till Ep. 3 when this will be answered more completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 Remember, this is just Qui Gon's point of view, it doesn't mean it is true! I do hope GL explains it better in ep3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 Originally posted by MotionMan I dont know why im going to respond to this since it is super OBVIOUS. If it says "A long time ago" in a SW flick: EVEN if it is acient SW past. It is still way into the future of our current time. Think about how long into OUR future it will be to travel to other plantes or to even poulate an entire galaxy worth of planets. Well Inhabit alot of the planets. Anyhow I dont have much time now to go into it more. More later;) Actually it depends on your theory of the universe. If you follow the Big Bang theory, the idea is that after the universe expands to a certain point then it starts to contract again into minute point before exploding once again (kind like a star expanding with age, shrinking down to a white dwarf, then going supernova). If this is the case, then Star Wars could have taken place before the last Big Bang... which would have been a really "long time ago." Alternately, if you're a Terry Brooks fan, it's possible that it works like the Shannara saga. Before the stories in the various books, the world when through various periods of technological power and magical power, each being seperated by tremendous wars that caused basically a rebirth to the races of the planet. Something like this could have happened way in the past and we had to start over, leaving us where we are now... Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 Originally posted by Kryllith Actually it depends on your theory of the universe. If you follow the Big Bang theory, the idea is that after the universe expands to a certain point then it starts to contract again into minute point before exploding once again (kind like a star expanding with age, shrinking down to a white dwarf, then going supernova). If this is the case, then Star Wars could have taken place before the last Big Bang... which would have been a really "long time ago." Alternately, if you're a Terry Brooks fan, it's possible that it works like the Shannara saga. Before the stories in the various books, the world when through various periods of technological power and magical power, each being seperated by tremendous wars that caused basically a rebirth to the races of the planet. Something like this could have happened way in the past and we had to start over, leaving us where we are now... Kryllith thats why I responded after with this... If we are talking about a galaxy far far away, then the same explination I gave earlier applies to it also. The Galaxy far, far away had to one day be in the same state as us. Then they advanced themselves with technological tools and methods that made them be able to travel all over their galaxy. So in THEIR future they would have these type of drugs methods I was talking about. It was just an idea. Im not sure if thats what was done to Shmi. It will be explained more in ep.3(I hope). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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