darthbong Posted July 8, 2002 Posted July 8, 2002 Okay this isn't exactly about 'AOTC' but it pretains to the prequel trilogoy so I thought it might fit here... There has been alot of talk about why some jedis disapear when they die and some dont. Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Vader (he dispeared it was only his armor that was carried off and burned). Plus I dont rember seeind a bunxh of dead jedis on the ground durn the climax of 'AOTC'. Qui-Gon on the other hand did not disapear. George Lucas has said this is not a contanutie (yeah I can't spell) error. That there is a reason for this that will be explained in Ep.III . I learned from the starwars.com databank that Qui-Gon is the only Jedi to focus on the 'Living Force' rather than the 'Unifying Force' . This means he acted more on instinct and feelings rathe than thought and meditation. I think this was a big mistake for him (and all the jedi) because this may have been what lead him to demand anikins training that will eventully lead him to help hunt down and destroy all the Jedi. Also this may have had a part in his death at the end of ep.I . And I beleive this to be the reason he did not disapear and became "one with the force" as the other Jedi did. Well thats about it. Please reply with your thoughts. Thanx,
ET Warrior Posted July 9, 2002 Posted July 9, 2002 Actually, most if not all of the Jedi did NOT disappear during the geonosis scene. We saw many of them lying dead while the Jedi were retreating, and we see Obi-Wan checking the pulse of one on the ground.
Koffin Posted July 9, 2002 Posted July 9, 2002 Whoa...thats way to deep for me. Im still wondering why lightsabers are different colors.
Alan 00X Posted July 9, 2002 Posted July 9, 2002 Quote Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Vader (he dispeared it was only his armor that was carried off and burned). How do know that he dissappeared, did you see him dissappear? Last time I watched ROTJ it just showed anikin breath his last breath and die and just lie there while luke cried. The rest of the stuff you said is just your 2 cents on the subject so at least treat it like that and not like it's cannon.
darthbong Posted July 9, 2002 Author Posted July 9, 2002 Quote Originally posted by Alan 00X How do know that he dissappeared, did you see him dissappear? Last time I watched ROTJ it just showed anikin breath his last breath and die and just lie there while luke cried. The rest of the stuff you said is just your 2 cents on the subject so at least treat it like that and not like it's cannon. George Lucas answered that in an interveiw.
darthbong Posted July 9, 2002 Author Posted July 9, 2002 Quote Originally posted by Koffin Whoa...thats way to deep for me. Im still wondering why lightsabers are different colors. When A Jedi is in training one thing he has to do is to build a light saber. The power for the beam is emited be a crystal. Depending on where the crystal comes from is why you get diffrent colors.
Darth Vader 421 Posted July 10, 2002 Posted July 10, 2002 I think Qui-Gon Jinn is not really dead. Somehow he survives and returns in Episode III.
MotionMan Posted July 10, 2002 Posted July 10, 2002 Quote Originally posted by Darth Vader 421 I think Qui-Gon Jinn is not really dead. Somehow he survives and returns in Episode III. If he didnt die, then they burned him alive in the end of ep.1:D
Jaster21801 Posted July 10, 2002 Posted July 10, 2002 LOL *Charred figure walks up to Yoda* Qui-Gon: What the hell is wrong with you you little green freak????!!!!???? I was healing myself!!!! Yoda: Dead you were. Dead you must remain. *Yoda force pulls his lightsaber to his hand and ignites the blade. He chops Qui-Gon in two* Yoda: Deal with the evidence I must *Yoda pushes Qui-Gon's charred remains under the carpet*
Jaster21801 Posted July 10, 2002 Posted July 10, 2002 glad you liked it, in case you haven't read it yet, you have a pm ET Warrior.
darthbong Posted July 13, 2002 Author Posted July 13, 2002 Quote Originally posted by fernandotabet Have you seen...like...Qui Gon's funeral? =] Can you...like...elaberate?
Legacy_Of_Sith Posted July 13, 2002 Posted July 13, 2002 Near the end of EP 1 you see them burning Qui-Gonn's body.
Darth Kaan Posted July 19, 2002 Posted July 19, 2002 I think it has something to do with those that practice "The living force."
darth tyrannus Posted July 19, 2002 Posted July 19, 2002 perhaps it has something to do with knowing they're going to die, as if they're prepared for it or something. obi-wan was prepared, like yoda, but qui-gon didn't see it coming(based on the look on his face when he was stabbed). all those jedi on geonosis probably didn't know they were toast either. but prove me wrong if you can.
Jedi_Monk Posted July 19, 2002 Posted July 19, 2002 Quote perhaps it has something to do with knowing they're going to die, as if they're prepared for it or something. obi-wan was prepared, like yoda, but qui-gon didn't see it coming(based on the look on his face when he was stabbed). The theory might work if Qui-Gon had just dropped dead then... but Qui-Gon had the whole length of time when Obi-Wan fought Maul to come to grips with his mortality, accept that he was going to die and prepare himself for it. So it doesn't really work.
Nebelwerfer_ Posted July 22, 2002 Posted July 22, 2002 darth bong, what did GL say in the interview about anikin dissapearing?
MotionMan Posted July 22, 2002 Posted July 22, 2002 Look here for info on the disapearing jedi mystery: http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/steve/askjc20000131.html http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/rick/askjc20020703.html it is all answered there. Basically we have to wait till ep.3
Nebelwerfer_ Posted July 22, 2002 Posted July 22, 2002 yah, thats what it always boils down to, waiting for the next movie...
covenant_bad Posted July 22, 2002 Posted July 22, 2002 I think qui-gon still has a part to play, coz in ep2 when anakin is slashing people in revenge for his dead mother, in the book it says while yoda is meditating he hears quigons voice? what are your thoughts.?
Sith Wookiee Posted July 22, 2002 Posted July 22, 2002 It seems to me that all the jedi who dissappear give themselves willingly to the force and the ones who do not, die suddenly without warning and no time to prepare.
sexcellent Posted July 23, 2002 Posted July 23, 2002 yeah you can hear qui gon's voice in ep 2. he goes "anakin!" "anakin!" i think it is audio from ep 1 i doubt they had liam do more recording for one word. that was cool i love qui gon too bad he coudnt come back as a spirit and chill with the other jedi.
Kryllith Posted July 23, 2002 Posted July 23, 2002 Quote Originally posted by Jedi_Monk The theory might work if Qui-Gon had just dropped dead then... but Qui-Gon had the whole length of time when Obi-Wan fought Maul to come to grips with his mortality, accept that he was going to die and prepare himself for it. So it doesn't really work. I think the point is that he wasn't ready to die, whether he's accepting of it or not. I doubt he'd have any problems coming to terms with the fact that his death was inevitable. He can accept the fact that he's going to die. But that doesn't change the fact that he probably felt he'd left too much undone (we're talking about someone who was getting ready to train Anakin for years on end) and thus couldn't truly let go... Kryllith
Redwing Posted July 23, 2002 Posted July 23, 2002 Well, in the EU... j/k Something interesting at SW.com...Yoda was surprised to hear Qui-Gon's voice speaking from beyond the grave. As in a "that's impossible" kind of surprise. Interesting...most interesting...
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