Deac Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Aren't all our Cantina characters supposed to be in the future anyway, so we can't RP them, because they've disappeared from this section of the timeline E.g Cantina People Leave here... ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦Cantina people gone so they can't be here ¦ ¦ ¦ 20 Years Later, Time Matrix Discovered Cantina People fighting here. They have gone around time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 With the exception of Vidar, our original Cantina characters are dead, as far as this time line in concerned. Vidar will be missing. The holocaust will take a couple days to be over, for the torps to travel to the systems and then detonate. Good starting place: The holocaust if basically over, yet is still isn't known how many worlds have survived, and where those worlds are. In other words a time of confusion, anger, and sadness. Possible plot:Everyone's characters have suffered from the holocaust. They want revenge, against the people who caused this. Eventually they come together and help each other to find the home world of the Aesir. In the course of this search for revenge: They can encounter raiders, pirates ect. In the course of their Search they learn of the time matrix. A device that can save their famlies ect. and may give them their desired revenge. Finally they find the time Matrix and Cantina 7 begins. Now the plot for the Aesir. Being very unpopular, and with the disappearnce of Vidar, head to their one sanctuary Midgard. They know that the galaxy will eventually send something after them. To watch for this they send Heimdall to keep watch. He will join the rest of your characters, but they won't know His true reason for joining the group. The Disappearnce of Vidar, cause the Vanir to choose a new leader. They pick from the surviving sons of Odin, and choose Tyr the eldest (after Vidar) to be the knew leader. (his role will mainly be communication between Heimdall) Heimdalls cover story: The son of an owner of a small but profitable trading business based out of Corellia, where his family had lived for years. Going on a short trip Heimdall says good bye to his family and leaves for Coruscant to meet with an old friend and long time partner. Just before leaving Heimdall hears that the hostile fleet has departed, and sees no problem with going to Coruscant. Arriving there, he hears the terrible news about the holocaust, and Corellia was destroyed. His friend Tyr, decided it wasn't wise to go to Coruscant and stayed away. Heimdall was angry, he wanted revenge against those that had killed his family. Arriving on planet he realizes that he alone will not be able to take revenge, but he needs others to help him. To begin his quest for vengeance Heimdall seeks out others who like himself want revenge. At least that is what Everyone believes. In reality Heimdall seeks out those who hunt the Vanir. To keep his people alive. Age:Heimdall apears to be about 20 years old. In actuallity he is centuries old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 So we have the war between the Aesir and Vanir keeping them from advancing. Interesting thing can happen. Odin would be alive for this war, so Odin from the future, can find Odin from the past. Now, that could get really confusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Actually, our character's haven't disapeared. Because this timeline had to happen for the Aeges and Craynoir to go back in time and retrieve the Cantina'ers to go after the Time Matrix. This is SW-verse; the future is ever in motion, so not even "all-powerful" superbeings like the Aeges and Craynoir can predict with exactness what is going to happen until it actually happens. What I assume to have happened: Deac, Rwos, Starr, and Odin died on the Crimson Star. Rwos' teleporter was on a delay so Rwos could fight Cracken without any accidents, so it couldn't save them. Flax apparently escaped at the last second. Cracken was killed by the Aesir as threatened. Vidar apparently went missing for some reason. Or maybe he was amkilled in Raas' last-ditch attack. The Cantina'ers have not gone around time yet, because the interference hasn't happened yet. The interference may be being planned, but it hasn't occured yet. Hey Deac, remember my new character from "new rpg", Marin? She would still end up in this dimension regardless of new events...the only difference would be that she would escape the Shadows, without you, Ariel or Tarin to worry about. (She came back in "new rpg" to tell you to leave.) Plus the Swordsmen/Blades would never have come over to (attempt to) rescue her. An interesting world she would be trapped in... It seems that Orthos Starkiller is the oldest in the group so far (well obviously except Heimdall) at almost forty. Since Wraith Squadron in this timeline was formed a little before the Battle of Yavin, and Orthos was 19 at the time. Unless you have something odd in mind? () Odin from the past meeting Odin from the future? Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 I was following what you and Deac said. Since if I'm correct this is what would happen. Holocaust--Vidar alive--Time Matrix found--Vidar still around--time messed up--Aeges go back in time and interfer, placing Vidar with Odin in Cantina 7. Meaning Vidar wasn't around to lead the Aesir. During this timeline, changing time again. Playing with time gets confusing. If that doesn't make sense, then lets just say Vidar, went to Midgard, ahead of time, and left Tyr in charge of getting the Vanir there. SO we don't have to explain another altered timeline. You know not only can Odin met himself but the other characters can met each other as well. Doubles for everyone What do you think about my plot outline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 (this again being Cantina chat sorry ) Well, the idea was originally that they were "copied" in a way, leaving a duplicate to finish out their destined dead-end path in this twenty-year timeline. (Even if it was being killed in one second. ) Note: Rwos spent only a few days in this dimension in the "new reality". Without the Jedi Corran Horn to set him off (resulting in his teleporter being broken) Rwos arrived in this dimension on Drall, and went to Coruscant to capture the two persons he came to capture. Then left, without a ripple. Deac will probably meet himself, in his status as Dark Lord of the Sith. Maybe Flax, but probably not Starr and definitely not Cracken, because Cracken is Palpatine's son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 I was kidding about the Doubles for everyone, but since you pulled out the copier for characters why not. So far Characters are Josine with a shoe rack Heimdall, Tyr, who plays a limited role Vidar, who may not play a role, depending on if he is copied or not(would be extermly limited) Orthos Starkiller Do we have others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Misae, apprentice of Quhn Vaas (who killed himself to save Coruscant) [possibly] Marin, yet another otherdimensional being; shapeshifting, waterbreathing, mutant human girl. [possibly] another character that I haven't named yet...germinating in my mind. edit: make that two characters...I might end up playing anywhere between one and four characters here, lol Death might play a character here. Wasslera might play a character as well. There's also a couple other people who might want to join...no guarantees yet tho. Deac: What exactly happened to Orthos during the years after Wraith Squadron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 when will we find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Well, when it starts I suppose. I figured we were going to wait until you got back, since you kind of play an important part. *pokes everyone else to voice their opinion* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Fine by me. I don't really know when I'll be back though, at the most 1 week I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 Deac is gone for two weeks as of yesterday...so if we start, Orthos (or other of his other characters) won't show up for a while. I had an idea for the "wild card" concept...but as I'm pressed for time right now, I'll post it later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 I'm back uppiee. I see you have had a large discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 *kick* Welcome back. I see everything went alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 yes, can't sit for long at the moment. so what are we doing with this if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Okay, my proposal: No one knows where the Time Matrix is in the 'true' timeline. And besides changing history, the Time Matrix can get you anywhere or find anything. All you have to do is think it. Ultimate weapon. Obviously, Ken'atra beat our characters to the Time Matrix. But. Our characters, if we find its location as well, can be used as wild cards; transplanted from the ended timeline to the normal one. Wild cards who know where the Time Matrix is. Could be interesting...what do you guys think? (Of course, this would limit how long-lasting this would be.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Sounds interesting. Maybe getting these characters to interact with the ones in Cantina 7... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superthrawn Posted August 3, 2002 Author Share Posted August 3, 2002 Well, it seems that we're almost ready to begin. Redwing and I are discussing the details of plot as we speak, and I may even be able to post the new RPG tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 (or not. lol) There's a problem...the twenty year gap between the beginning of the RPG and Ken'atra finding the Time Matrix and signaling the end of the timeline...we could do a time skip, but that would be kinda clumsy...and some of the characters *may* work better at their current young ages. Plus the chemistry of first meeting would be thrown out the window. ::think think:: Ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 One way to skip time. Before the Jump. Characters do whatever, find out about the time matrix, and begin their search. So where during their search the trail goes cold. Time Jump. 20 years later, they finally find the trail again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 But then there's the age thing... Idea 2: Perhaps on the way to find the Time Matrix, just after they find the location, they step through some sort of time warp/portal thing and emerge twenty years in the future? Then they'd really need the Time Matrix. Idea 3: Perhaps they fall into a sort of stasis trap and Ken'atra sets them free inadverdently when he goes to find the map or whatever to the location. Idea 4: Or perhaps, Deac, we can utilize the alternate universe where this dimension's Syrnl is being given another chance in that RPG that ended? They could enter that dimension to get a vital clue or something, hidden by the Imperials. Then when they emerge twenty years have passed... When this happened to Corzip, Deac, and Rwos, they were immediately (about a minute after leaving the dimension) transported by the Aeges to pre-Battle of Endor times to perform the actions of The Hutt Gamble. So really, they would have no idea if they had time-skipped like that...so it would be feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superthrawn Posted August 5, 2002 Author Share Posted August 5, 2002 Ok Redwing, I like some of your ideas, and don't like others. Personally, I don't like the idea of using a Time Warp/Portal thing. That makes it seem to me like we're delving too much into fantasy here, and straying significantly (as if the Time Matrix wasn't significantly straying) from Star Wars. I do really like the fourth idea, of being transported to another universe, because it's already been done, and it would give us more story opportunities. That's just my two cents though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 Take the alternate universe, and have say a day there=1 year at the normal one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 @superthrawn: Far too late - Deac's existence is based heavily on fantasy, same with Rwos - and as we all know, Admiral's characters are based on Norse mythology. It seems that the consenus is that we get to meet Deac's brother. (Syrnl; he's been stuck in that alternate universe for a proverbial 'second chance'.) Now that we have that problem figured out...are we ready to start? Or should we, er, wait for Deac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted August 6, 2002 Share Posted August 6, 2002 when does Deac come back? Don't forget about the so called gods, that have appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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