Light stance Lunge/uppercut... while running?

[Synax]

Whoa I never meant for this to turn into a "Scripters vs anti-scripters" thread. In response to your complaints, you are making the lunge out to be alot more complex than it is. Its merely pressing 3 keys at once, its not a series of complex combination attacks, just pressing 3 keys at once. I choose to let the computer do that for me. Why you ask? Well my hand isn't a fast as the computer, its harder for me to press all 3 of those keys at once while running over and over with much success. So yes I suppose I do it because its easier. To me its more fun to do the move I want to do instead of accidently rolling or something else.

 

Its not that I'm doing something I couldn't do without the script, its just that its relieving me of some the stress of doing it manually. So yes I'm sure many of you would define that as cheating, oh well I suppose. I refuse to embrace the idea that moves should be in the most complex manner possible. And with so many people out there doing it, it hardly gives me an advantage over everyone.

 

To be fair though I never start lunging like a maniac until its done to me. I actually prefer the fights where no special moves are used; no backstabs, no strong jumping slash, no medium twirling jump and no lunge. Fights like that can be really interesting, but usually aren't possible on public servers. So rather than looking at it like I use the script to get an advantage on people, look at it like I use the script to even the playing field when others use it on me.

 

P.S. All in all I think people are making more of this than necessary. You really want to complain about people cheating and doing things you can't you should look at Counterstrike's history, which I endured for years. Having a script press 3 buttons for you with only 1 key is hardly on par with that.

[Luc Solar]

You seem like a decent guy...and I didn't mean to flame you.

 

 

I enjoy arguments, and "what's cheating/what isn't" is a pretty interesting subject.

 

 

I loathe the kiddies who are loaded up with god knows how many cheats and are busy "pwning" everyone and letting them know how much they "suxx0rZ" 'cause they were just "owned".

 

Having fun is one thing, having fun on the expense of others is kinda lame.

 

You do not seem like a "serious" gamer, so your scripted lunge might not become a "problem". But it is cheating nevertheless.

 

Counter Strike is a joke. I don't want JO to become one too.

 

I can't tell you not to use scripts, but please at least be honest about it if someone asks.

 

No wait...I can't tell you to do that either...damn.

 

Oh well, peace to you all, I'm in a way too good mood to argue with anyone today.

[RahnDelSol]

I said it before, and I'll say it again.

 

I bound lunge to a mouse button...it's the only "special" that really requires multiple buttons at the same time that aren't naturally within my reach.

 

Yellow stance overhead slash...W + Space + Mouse1...easy for me. My fingers are on those keys already.

 

Red stance DFA? Simple enough. Don't have to do anything special there.

 

But the lunge requires the forward + crouch...that's just a little tougher for me, as I have to stretch my hand a bit just to reach the keys for that one. So, I just bound it to an unused mouse button. I don't see the big deal. As I said before, it doesn't give me much of an advantage, because I'm an average player as it is

 

I bound it because I do use it a lot. I think it's a great counter-move for certain attacks. I've told some opponents who spam DFA at me that they'd better land the move, otherwise I'll make them pay for leaving an opening (sidestep and lunge as they land). My preferred method of attack is trying to time red stance swings to hit Still working on that one.

 

Now, I don't want to sound like I'm begging for pity, I know that's how it looks. I just want people to understand that there ARE some valid reasons for certain things to be done. Binding things to keys or buttons saves me strain on my hands and wrists. If you don't like it, come on over and pay for a doctor's visit to have them fixed up, and I'll gladly unbind

[Canis_Aureus]

I don't care if people consider scripts cheats or not, but it is a fact that they eliminate human errors and makes it possible to ALWAYS pull of certain moves. People use scripts to give themselves a better chance of winningm, not to make the game more fun or challenging. Bu eliminating human errors you also remove some of the fun and I think scripting sucks badly.... cheating or not. I will never use scripts for the simple reason it makes the game less challenging for me and that means less fun. I would rather loose 90% of all games than take aways some of the work I have to do to win a fight. So yes I think scripting suck and I think the people who use scripts only do it to be able to win better. My major beef with fighting scripters is that they are bloody boring to fight... they never make that human error that I can exploit and if I also uses scripts it all just comes down to grinding at each other. But I do not expect sportsmanship in an online game... the scripts are here and there isn't anything we can do about it. The whole talk about cheating is also crap... there is nothing we can do to make people stop cheating. I play computer games for fun and I want a challenge. I find no fun in sabering down a newbie (unless he's a lamer too, then it gives me some satisfaction). I would rather give him some tips... and why? To make the game more challenging and more fun for ME.

 

Oh well lets just get on with playing and remember people... most of us can see when you use a script... you can deny it all you want but we will know. I will never tell you that you use a script, but know that in my world you're just less of a man/woman.

[teutonicknight]

Originally posted by RahnDelSol

I said it before, and I'll say it again.

 

I bound lunge to a mouse button...it's the only "special" that really requires multiple buttons at the same time that aren't naturally within my reach.

 

Yellow stance overhead slash...W + Space + Mouse1...easy for me. My fingers are on those keys already.

 

Red stance DFA? Simple enough. Don't have to do anything special there.

 

But the lunge requires the forward + crouch...that's just a little tougher for me, as I have to stretch my hand a bit just to reach the keys for that one. So, I just bound it to an unused mouse button. I don't see the big deal. As I said before, it doesn't give me much of an advantage, because I'm an average player as it is

 

I bound it because I do use it a lot. I think it's a great counter-move for certain attacks. I've told some opponents who spam DFA at me that they'd better land the move, otherwise I'll make them pay for leaving an opening (sidestep and lunge as they land). My preferred method of attack is trying to time red stance swings to hit Still working on that one.

 

Now, I don't want to sound like I'm begging for pity, I know that's how it looks. I just want people to understand that there ARE some valid reasons for certain things to be done. Binding things to keys or buttons saves me strain on my hands and wrists. If you don't like it, come on over and pay for a doctor's visit to have them fixed up, and I'll gladly unbind

 

Some people can be sooooooooo dense.

Remap your keys! Just map crouch to alt or shift! thats what I do...

[Synax]

Actually binding it to a script key doesn't make it work all the time. I still roll alot or just do a normal downward slash, its not perfect by any means. Now perhaps I'm just not binding it right, but its far from 100%, more like 75%. And the way I look it at... when I was able to jump-lunge I could do 100% of the time from the air, I'm less of a threat now than I used to be.

[ToppDog]

Originally posted by Synax

Actually binding it to a script key doesn't make it work all the time. I still roll alot or just do a normal downward slash, its not perfect by any means. Now perhaps I'm just not binding it right, but its far from 100%, more like 75%. And the way I look it at... when I was able to jump-lunge I could do 100% of the time from the air, I'm less of a threat now than I used to be.

 

Exactly! I have the special moves bound using the exact keypress sequences described in the manual. They don't always work for me either. I roll a lot when trying to do the lunge too.

 

You people that are complaining about these scripts are either very dense, or have not been playing PC games long enough to notice how much things have changed within the gaming industry within the last 5 - 10 years.

 

So let me tell you once more. PC games these days aren't designed like they used to be at all. Companies that used to design PC games used to be very small outfits that took time to turn out a good product with plenty of controller support, etc. & their main focus was on games for the PC. Whereas today, the companies are bigger & want to make their games designed so that they can more easily be transferred to other gaming platforms such as X-Box, Playstation, Gamecube, etc.

 

So instead of designing a game specifically for the PC with all the controller/keyboard options available to the PC, they make it as generic as possible with little or no controller support & with keypress commands that can be easily adapted to console type controllers with a limited number of buttons.

 

If this game had been made several years ago the spacial moves would have been assigned to ONE key each. There wouldn't be any combo type key sequences to perform a certain move, just the ONE key.

 

I would prefer this anyway, & if there was a way to alter the game so that I could assign a separate key for each move that had nothing to do with the other movement/attack keys I would do it. The way it is now puts limitations on how I would like to fight.

 

I don't like doing a special move by accident because I happed to hit the movement & attack keys "just right" when I'm only trying to move & attack. Sometimes you just want to run, jump & attack in medium without doing the yellow twirl DFA thingy if you get my drift.

[Mero Vilul]

All I can say is:

If you use scripts, never complain when another player use a "far more superior script than yours"... You set the rules by allowing scripts, so don't be upset when someone have a better script than you. The end.

 

I don't use scripts, and I'm still only met ONE people who could match me in a one on one duel (he fakenicked, so I don't know hes real name though).

 

Take Care.