ET Warrior Posted August 10, 2002 Share Posted August 10, 2002 you know......if he hadn't promised to go away from these forums forever....i would swear that DocBledsoe is just another of the many identities of Holo-Sideous..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 10, 2002 Share Posted August 10, 2002 LOL that wouldnt be so surprising:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy_Of_Sith Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 Yes, Holo-Sidious will make us shudder forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DocBledsoe Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 I assure you I am new to these forums. And my tolerance for Star Wars lunatics is damn near gone. I'm clearly out of my element and truly am somewhere between you nuts and the casual fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 That's exactly what Holo-sid would've said. You two should meet, i'm sure you'd both get along fantastically. It seems odd that you are getting all upset that we're arguing with you. First of all, you come into a star wars forum saying that the greatest jedi master ever joined the dark-side.....of course we'll argue that point. Then you start getting all hostile and rude about it.....so sorry when we prove that our star wars knowledge is greater than yours and we know what we're talkin aboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 I don't want to hear no rubbish that Luke didn't kill Sidious Vader did, and Vader didn't want to kill Luke, I attack one of you with a light saber, I try not to kill you, but I will if you are trying to kick the **** out of me. Hehehehehehe, i just found a quote from Mez in an old thread that makes me laugh..... YOU are SOOOOOO WRONG. Darth Vader would have opened a WHOLE TANKER of woop ass on Luke, stupid mechanical limbs, not fast enough. The fools can clone people, but not extra organs an body pieces. Back then he says that vader would have destroyed luke....but here he says luke was way more powerful than vader....and you accuse me of contradicting myself...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Someone above said that Yoda, Ben, and Obi lied. If you think about it Yoda wasn't lying at all. He was going along with it, he never gave Luke his identity so in a sense he wasn't lying. Yoda also says "War not make one great". If you think about it Sidiouse is a coward as well. He has others do his work. And if anybody says that he's killed Jedi he hasen't yet so it's not cannon. Then on Kamino he doesn't lie when he arrives. He didn't tell them who or why he was there he just agreed with them so that is not lying. Then in Rotj when he is talking with Ben after Yoda's passing Ben tells him that he was telling the truth from a certain point of view. And that most of the truth's that we look at depend at the person's view. So you may think that they were lying by youre point of view. Also Yoda was strong with the Force but not strong enough. In ESB you hear Vader and the Emperor talking and the Emperor says " he could destroy us". Palpatine is scared of Luke and so is Vader. They just don't show cause that is bad to let you're enemy know you're afraid. Thats why the Emperor's plan is to turn Luke to the Dark side of the Force. He fails of course and is destroyed. If you think about it Anakin really isn't the Chosen one. Luke in reality is because he Destroyed the Dark side. And he is brining back what was once lost. If you think about it no matter what there is always going to be Sith and Jedi. Like at first there was Sidiouse and Maul. Then in the OT there is Ben and Yoda. There has to be one for the other to exist. That is the true balance to the Force. Just my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Originally posted by Ratmjedi Then in Rotj when he is talking with Ben after Yoda's passing Ben tells him that he was telling the truth from a certain point of view. And that most of the truth's that we look at depend at the person's view. So you may think that they were lying by youre point of view. Thank you I missed that line(the ,"from a certain point of view" line). oh and Vader is the chosen one not luke. There is lots more to discuss about your post. I dont have the time right now to respond fully:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 ObiWan was lying on Kamino, even if he was just going along with Lama Su. Lama Su: "i'm sure you're eager to inspect them" ObiWan: "That's, why i'm here." He is lying, but it's not EVIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 ET Warrior: I still like the line you said-"Obviously Obi-wan is as evil as Darth Sidious". Refering to Obi-Wans lying:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Originally posted by Ratmjedi . If you think about it Sidiouse is a coward as well. He has others do his work. And if anybody says that he's killed Jedi he hasen't yet so it's not cannon. Then on Kamino he doesn't lie when he arrives. He didn't tell them who or why he was there he just agreed with them so that is not lying. Then in Rotj when he is talking with Ben after Yoda's passing Ben tells him that he was telling the truth from a certain point of view. Not to knock your argument or anything, but could you please be a bit more careful with your use of pronouns? If nothing else, at least use a proper noun when you're changing the subject of a sentence. In the above you have it expressed as though Sidious went along with the Kaminoans (when you mean Obiwan) and talked to Ben after Yoda's death (when you mean Luke)... Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 I know what you mean but when I went up to edit, it would delete what was in front of it and I edited it twice before I noticed my foul up. By the time I noticed I was tired and didn't want to re type the whole thing. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted August 15, 2002 Share Posted August 15, 2002 No problems. I was able to follow it, just took me a second, and I'm pretty sure others were able to follow it to. I just didn't want people flaming you saying something like "Sidious never talked to Obiwan after Yoda's death!!! Learn what the #$$*$ you're talking about!!!" Or something to that extent. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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