Luke Skywalker ROTJ VS Darth Maul

[Taos]

Right, I did notice that after I had made my post......just too lazy to go back and edit it I was!

 

Anyways, you should post more......I like the avatar!

[skywalker15]

I will attempt to do so.

[JediNyt]

Its kind of crazy how people have gotten so obsessed with nit picking every detail in the movies and turing it into something else. What do you think George would say about all this bickering? "Oh the Dark is better, youre a n00b, shut up Luke sucks what a *****, Anakin cheated, what a loser, Dooku is better than any Jedi, stfu Dark lover, Luke cant fight worth ****, I know EVERYTHING!!"..........

 

It seems fans have twisted SW into a confusing world wide controversy over Dark vs Light. Like a freaking video game! SW is NOT JK2. Dont treat it like it is.<---Thats an analogy people.

 

Take SW for what it is, a movie. What happens in the movie is fact and its right there in front of you. George is not hiding stupid little meanings in there from you. That makes no sense. Take the movies for what they are. What you see and hear is what happens. What it says it means is what it means, nothing more. What George says goes.

 

The OT was made from 77 to 83. Nick Gillard was not the stunt coordinator. The saber fights were not as fast and intense or "elegant" as in the PT. Also George said in the OT you saw amature farm boys, old men, and half machine men wielding sabers. You didnt see the Jedi in their prime. Those were the dark times.

 

"Hard to see the Dark side is."-Yoda

 

"Fear is the path of the Dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."-Yoda

 

"I think it is time we informed the Senate that our ability to use the Force has diminished."-Mace Windu

 

"The Dark side of the Force has clouded their vision"-Count Dooku

(This happened Im sure because Palpatine over the course of many decades very slowly influenced the Jedis Force intuition with the Dark until the Jedi started to notice that their vision was very clouded.)

 

But..."Much to learn you still have."-Yoda

 

"Vader was seduced by the Dark side of the Force."-Obi-Wan Kenobi

 

"There is a new enemy. Luke Skywalker. He could destroy us."-Emperor Palpatine

 

"A Jedi uses the Force for Knowledge and defense, never for attack."-Yoda

 

"Is the Dark side stronger?" "No, no."-Luke Skywalker and Yoda

 

"Once you start down the Dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor or suffer you fathers fate you will."-Yoda

 

"You dont know the power of the Dark side. I must obey my master."-Darth Vader

 

"Your hate has made you powerful. Now fulfill your destiny and take your fathers place at my side."-Emperor Palpatine

 

"Never. Ill never turn to the Dark side. You failed your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me."

 

Now, we have never yet seen nor heard anything that says either side of the Force is more powerful than the other. So they could be equally powerful, just in different ways maybe. As I said before, its like war. Good vs Evil. You win some you lose some. What matters most is who wins the war. And the Light won. In the end the Jedi beat the Sith.

 

Are you all really fans of evil or just the coolness of the baddies of SW? Or have you gotton confused and think, "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb."-Dark Helmet:D

[Taos]

Lol on that Dark Helmut comment! What a great movie!

 

I've also never seen anyone line up quotes like that before either!. But seriously, there is no need to get all worked up man, we all have our opinions on certain things and cussing and holloring is doing anyone any good at all......

[JediNyt]

I wasnt cussing and holloring and certainly not dissing you. My post wasnt an opinion. It was factual. Did something make you think I was dissing people?

[Taos]

I know it wasn't at me.....I also know that you weren't targeting anyone in particular. It was a general statement and I realize that.......I've just never seen those comments you are refering to, that's all.

[Count Dooku 2]

On Darth Maul's Force powers:

Darth Maul could also jump really high. On the deleted lightsaber duel scene (on the DVD, at the end of the Deleted Scene documentry), Maul flips upwards to another level of the power station, which is really high.

 

On Luke Skywalker:

Remember Yoda's comment here:

 

"Then I am a Jedi!"

"No! One thing remains... Vader!"

 

Luke was not a Jedi until he defeated Vader by lopping off his hand, so it depends which Luke duelles with Maul: the Jedi, or the non-Jedi? Either way, Maul would own Luke: he had years and years of training, Luke had a couple of days in a swamp.

[ET Warrior]

ACtually, in response to jedinyt, most movies ARE intended to be infered into. You aren't supposed to just look at exactly what is shown and take that and nothing else from the movie. Star wars is, at it's base level, a struggle of good versus evil. So it's quite natural to choose which side you think deserves to win, based on factors that you have seen and analyzed.

 

If we just took what we saw for what it was and didn't question or analyze, there would be no point in having a star wars discussion forum.

[JediNyt]

Analyze logicaly. Not down through the artery (sp?). If you do you end up with a big bloody mess. Since I cant speek to you all personally some of you may not fully understand my posts. It type not spoken words. So if I leave a tiny detail out then dont conclude I disaprove of the detail. Its a given to think into the movie. If you didnt then you wouldnt understand the whole story. Casually put facts together and create theories if you will, but keep them theories! You all know what Im talking about I dont know why I have to keep reexplaining all this. Look Ive got nothing more to prove. Lets drop the worn down digging tools and talk about stuff like star fighters on the recent thread I put up. Or go make a new fresh subject.