Royal Crusaders, Berserkers or Reb Mounties?

[lukeiamyourdad]

Which one do you like best?

 

Which one is the most powerful? the most useful? the one that has the most impact on its civ?

 

Tell me your opinion!

[Sithmaster_821]

Im shocked no one has responded to this. I went rebel mounties, cause i love them, and never use seige as the rebs. Rebel mounties are one of the main reasons i go for the rebels. They are unbelievable. The RC is solid, the only problem is that it has a low attack, so you cant use it well vs non-mechs non-heavies, no matter how long it takes to kill (they seem like they never die). Beserkers are insanely fast and eat buildings, so they make good heaives, only the wookies have good heavies, and beserkers are too weak defense-wise to be really good vs anything else, except using it's speed and fast attack to cut through slow, minimum range units.

[AU_Andy_Ewok]

Crusaders are the best melee unit in the game. Not many units beat a crusader 1v1.

[Sithmaster_821]

Thats just because they never die, seeing that FU they have 250 hp and a shield. But mounties are cheaper, faster, and better vs. buildings, not to mention have a higher attack.

[lukeiamyourdad]

It's easier to mass up mounties but a few crusaders(less then mounties) can destroy a command center without to much difficulty. And RC are the hardest to kill trooper unit.

[Sithmaster_821]

RC's are only good vs turrets and walls (thats what their bonus is), but like i said, they are solid and take forever to kill.

[lukeiamyourdad]

I am really starting to think that this thread was a bad idea....

[Sithmaster_821]

I thought it was a good idea, but only three people here care enough about the current game and strategy to respond. Thats why the question thread lost most of its steam.

[Admiral Vostok]

I went for Beserkers. I also get a few of them when I'm Wookiees. I find their speed is there greatest asset, they are good in support of a strong (yet slow) Wookiee seige group like pummels or artillery. They are also not bad vs Jedi, since I'm not a fan of Bounty Hunters I use Beserkers.

 

I wasn't aware there was anything special about the Rebel Mounted Trooper. Do they get a bonus over other civ's mounted troopers?

 

I rarely if ever use the Royal Crusader, I'd rather spend the credits on Jedi.

[lukeiamyourdad]

Reb Mounties get +50 hp with the tougher armor upgrade

[TheMadDoofer]

With all of the upgrades, Berserkers are better, because:

 

1.) They move faster-you can more easily take them out of battle if injured.

2.) They can regenerate

3.) They attack faster

[Sithmaster_821]

The problem with beserkers is that they die quite easily, and their regeneration/hp/armor tech is really expensive:(

[Admiral Vostok]

Cool! I'll have to use Mounties more often when I'm Rebels. I still think Beserkers are great.

[lukeiamyourdad]

I just discovered that Royal crusaders are very I mean very weak vs Fighters! For some reason, they do more damage to RCs.

Just mentionning!

[Admiral Vostok]

You mean that fighters are good against them? Because the first time I read your post I took it to mean that RCs aren't very good at killing fighters and I thought "duh" then I realised what you meant.

[AlliedCommander]

In combat, beserkers slaughter the other two easily. I think the beserk is the best. The mounty has very little over the other two. It is a detecter, which means it had that over the wooks. Mounties cost 55 food, 20 nova--very affordable. Beserkers cost 85 food, 35 nova--still reasonable for their potential. RCs are the most exspensive, about 120 food, and 60 nova. An estimate, because taxation confuses the original cost. RCs should be less exspensive--compare them to the beserker. RCs are better against repeater troopers, but i think thats it!

 

Beserkers are extremely effective against all hvy. weapons, mech destroyers, all non-repeater troop center units, RCs, civilian units, and cannons. They are ok against repeaters (just don't attack large formations) assualt mechs if they can survive the initial volleys, and can overwhelm knights (knights cost more), they also can overwhelm strikes---like one on one. I've overwhelmed an assualt mech with probots, but the units listed above can be defeated reasonably with beserkers.

[lukeiamyourdad]

You forgot that RCs have a huge defense and it compensates for their default.

I say Beserkers=Royal Crusader

 

Reb Mounties give the rebs a good advantage and enhances their trooper reliance. But in a 1vs1 against either an RC or a Beserker it would lose.

[AlliedCommander]

Huge defense? The other ground uu's slaughter the RC, especially the ranged darks and d-droids. Their high hps and shields works in more specific cases, but when it does, it protects them so they can actually do some damage. Another note--though their attack is not that much less than beserker, beserkers destroy buildings a lot faster.

 

So i'd say RC's dominance over the beserker is in their ability to withstand concentrated troop center unit fire better (and maybe they are more resistant against frigates and fighters?). Otherwise they cost more, are not as fast, not as effective against buildings or slow, non-assualt mech ground units.

[OOM-9(2)]

Tough, but I say berserkers. If you unload a heluva lot in an enemy base via assult mech then they can rip apart anything. They work well with pummles and fighters.

[lukeiamyourdad]

Those are uu. DDs and Dark Troopers destroy beserkers more easily. RCs can deal with DDs but since they are weak(not weak but not strong) against trooper type units. that's wy Dark Troopers have an advantage over them.

[AlliedCommander]

I think royal crusaders should have been cheaper or more effective against general units. It is inconcievable to me how they cost more than beserkers--they are both close combat. I like the Naboo and the crusader, but i lost my initial confidence that this unit would be a donimating unit.

 

Were you stating that the dd is not a trooper? (it is). I just was not certain on what you were posting.

[Sithmaster_821]

Commander, although it benefits from trooper techs, in the counter system it is considered a mech. Saying that the Beserker is the best of the three cause it can beat the other two is ridicululous. It reminds me of AoK when people said the Spanish were better than the Turks because the Conquistador (high pierce armor unit) beats a Janissary (low pierce armor unit). Both RCs and mounties are countered by troopers, so it makes sense that they are beaten by a trooper. Also, the beserkers weakness is its defense, especially from range, so pitting it against two melee units isnt a good measure of its power. If you put an RC and beserker next to a HDD, they will die with the HDD at about the same health. But, if they are placed at the HDD's maximum range, the beserker dies before it reaches the mech, and the RC does about half to two thirds damage. Rebel mounties are a good mixture of the two: The RC's resilience and bonus vs. heavies/mechs, and the beserkers speed and attack with its bonus vs buildings.

[lukeiamyourdad]

Yeah that's right.

 

reb mounties are a great addition to the rebs.

 

you forgot to mention that the RC is good vs turrets, better then a beserker.

[Sithmaster_821]

Yeah, but the beserker is better vs more buildings. If you send Rcs against any non-turret/wall (which they tear through), they will be there for a while.

[Admiral Vostok]

Where are Royal Crusaders supposed to get their shielding from, anyway? They carry around a generator? Seems a bit silly. It's not like they're droidekas with built in generators. They'd have to stick one on the saddle or something.