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Originally posted by Solo4114

Once upon a time, this thread had a point... I wonder if there are any moderators on this board anymore...

 

I expected this thread to be locked down long before now. The whole thing is getting pretty silly.

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as it seems to be a Break_df flaming post now

 

 

silly < Break_df

 

BTW Break yes you do know more about this game than myself, but you need to be more constructive on your replies.

 

not saying not to be rude i.e calling people a Tool, but it might be better if you give a better account to why and reasoning behind it... plus some facts go down a treat to :)

 

at the moment Spider AL get my respect as he is being constructive and not posting angry posts.

 

Spider AL I think your Great :) hehehe

 

btw Break I have read a few of your posts where they was constructive so I know its in you :) and no I am not your father, and I don't want you to join me also :p

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ok i think the subject was: Why did the game die/is the game dying?

I will try to get back on subject

 

No i dont think the game is dying, for my main reason i play on servers with to many newbs for there not to be new blood comming in to the game. plus there are plenty of servers still up.

 

got to say do any of you play catch the yasmari (sp?)... ummm i think that counts as off topic... duh

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500 posts eh, that's interesting. :deathii:

 

Originally posted by Break_dF:

 

It's funny; I'm actually embarrassed for you when I read your posts, Spider...

Coming from you, the undisputed master of the language, that IS funny. :p Heh-heh-heh.

 

Originally posted by Tosh_UK:

 

Spider AL I think your Great :) hehehe

Hey Tosh, you've got taste! :lol: Good job posting that link btw, that puts the icing on the systematic dismantling of his pathetic trolling quite well.

 

It's a shame, I've counter-flamed some really creative trolls in my time, and I was looking forward to a much more challenging experience. Even his rapid-fire flames of last night were slow though.

 

Now, as to your on-topic points: hopefully, though I won't be playing it myself, the game will survive long enough for all the fanboys to trickle away, until all that's left will be dedicated players who love the game for what it is. Hopefully it will then stay that way until a sequel comes out.

 

There's no reason why it shouldn't, JK did.

 

But I fear the competitive aspect of the game is no more. That's not necessarily such a bad thing, players like myself will simply find another, more successful game to compete at. One always has the haunting question in the back of one's mind however: "what might have been?"

 

sniff.

 

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To me the resons for the games demise are simple.

 

1) Reduced saber damage.

 

This is a problem with the 1.04 patch but could have been fixed by admins who understood how to change the cvar's to make the sabers more deadly. I changed mine and it resulted in a crowd that played from the week after the 1.04 patch until just a few months ago when I closed my nightly JK2 games. This is partly due to Raven and uneducated admins.

 

2) Bugs and kick damage

 

This game is full of quirks and this has resulted in a style of gameplay that has evolved away from the core of the game and to who has the most knowledge of bugs and the best kick script. Turn off kick damage and see how fast the server clears.

 

3) Mods (Adminmod below)

 

Mods are not the bain of JK2 but the lifeblood of it. The problem was that too many bad mods (jediplus!!!!!!) were released untested to the public. This along with the fact that, once again, admins were not able to make them run right and in the manner as which they were intended.

 

4) Adminmod (or abusemod)

 

Adminmod was adopted in the original sense to make rude players adopt a more civil disposition or leave. It has turned into the clan abuse mod. Now when you enter a clan server you can bet your last dollar some admin will be running around empowered being a general idiot.

 

5) Clan Abuse

 

My dad can beat up your dad..............

 

Clans in JK2 are for the most part childish and selfish. I know you will spam me for that but I do not care for this is my last post to this forum. They are made up of glory based people whos only wish was to "be the best", by laming their way through their servers, if they even had one, and complaining that someone was a noob or a whore if they got beat.

 

6) The noob, lamer, whore....etc

 

This game takes the cake for immature players who cannot handle loss or the fact that someone may be better than they are. Admins who get beat kick the players who beat them, ditto for clans. If your good, your a scripter or a cheat. And God knows that any new player with half a brain would be out the door and to Spearhead before the first map change. JK2 people, for the most part, are unhelpfull and selfish. God forbide the new guy learns the lunge, he might beat you.

 

In closing, this game has failed due to a community of whiners and sore losers. And I leave it to you. Now go rub dirt on each others faces in the playground or growup and learn to play as an adult where it is not if you win or lose, but how you play the game. Oh ya...its a game your NOT a jedi people, and if you were 90% of the community would make Vader look like a Sunday school teacher!

 

I am out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

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Originally posted by Break_dF:

 

Get back in the shed, spider.

Yawn, etcetera. You're not even trying now, are you.

 

You are, by your own admission, a troll. A troll, I think everyone who posts on forums or usenet would agree, is the lowest form of online life. Not even star-trek-furry smutty fanfic writers are lower than trolls. Not even Half-Life ragers are lower than trolls. Not even fanboys are lower than trolls, because all these things have a reason to exist. They have a purpose. Trolls on the other hand, do not. Trolls are simply tedious, sad individuals with nothing better to do than provide a sort of slapstick humour to those people who populate the forums they grace, through their inept fumblings. Trolls are scum.

 

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Who's more pathetic: the person that starts the "flame" or the person that constantly replies with rambling, ego-boosting paragraphs?...
Whichever one you are, of course. :) Besides, accusing others of "rambling" when there isn't a shred of meaning in any of your childlike single-line trollings, is rich.
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Originally posted by Break_dF:

 

You should've used dictionary.com to look up rambling...

 

Should I? Rambling is a word that describes aimless wandering. That's what YOU'RE guilty of in your meaningless posts, hence your accusations that others are rambling textually are rich. QED, I hope that was simple enough for you. ;)

 

I doubt it was, though... Too many lines...

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Originally posted by Break_dF:

 

Go back to playing sims, please.

The originality is becoming overwhelming. :rolleyes:

 

Do they do courses in trolling? If so, you need to take one. You're the most tedious troll I've ever seen. Ever. And I've posted on some boards full of trolls, I can tell you.

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Originally posted by Spider AL

Ohh is that right son? Well good for you! If the community has a player who's won more major tournaments than I have, played more games than I have, made more kills than I have, set more records than I have, discovered more techniques than I have, beaten more notable opponents in more game modes than I have...

 

someone who played Dark Forces 2 and MotS for years, winning money in prize tournaments, someone who was closely involved in the editing community of those games, producing maps, skins and entries for the Massassi level competitions, writing reviews for other fan-made levels for that site...

 

Someone who's dilligently researched the limits of the capabilities of the engines of all the Dark Forces series since his entry into that community, someone who trained for up to ten hours daily, unceasingly and relentlessly to become as good as he possibly could at both games, amassing a formidable record of results in the process...

 

Well, if the community has another player who's done all that and more, it's a really really good thing for the community, and I am thankful for it! If that player is you though, it's a shame that he's so arrogant, insulting and feeble-minded on the side.

 

Besides, the only great knowledge you've demonstrated here is your great knowledge of how to sling sad and petty little monosyllabic insults around, insults worthy of a true fanboy. :rolleyes: Oh, I forgot, you fence too. Good for you, stabb0r! Because fencing is a truly well-rounded fighting art, with many modern applications, and close relations to lightsabre fighting styles as depicted in the canon, as we all know. :p

 

Now that we've gotten all that out of the way, Breaky, you listen real close: Your logical arguments are non-existent, you fail to back up any of your wild slurs with fact, and even when you're contradicting people like ILR, people that I disagree with strongly, you do it in such a childish and insulting manner that you sicken even me, I who have been famous in the DF community since 1998 for my uncompromising debating style. Now my advice to you is to grow up forthwith. It's good advice. An intelligent person would take it. :D

Thats nothing to be proud of you ****ing queer :biggs::deathstar:deathii::bdroid1::band::atat::amidala: get a life

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Originally posted by Spider AL

The originality is becoming overwhelming. :rolleyes:

 

Do they do courses in trolling? If so, you need to take one. You're the most tedious troll I've ever seen. Ever. And I've posted on some boards full of trolls, I can tell you.

 

Then stop replying, tool.

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Originally posted by razorace

Uhh..improved blade collision benefits every type of player.

 

I had a look at your demos, Razorace. Looks pretty cool. I have a few questions though. First, are you guys set to walk by default? The whole fight you are just walking around. Is that just to make it easier to follow? Secondly, it seemed to me that there were several times when the saber seemed to go right through the other player without there being any damage. Am I missing something there? Maybe I'm just used to seeing crummy collision detection. I love the fact that the saber damage was higher, and after a few hits, the other player was dead.

 

Can you explain a little more what you are changing?

 

 

 

Hey look! More trolls in here! :D

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