dark jedi 8 Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 darth maul is not human, though he is a very close humanoid. but would you consider him a main character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimaster Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 I actually haven't seen Episode I since it was in theatres, but to me, Darth Maul isn't really a main character. He is a very human-like species though I can't remember exactly what that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jed Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 Zabrak Just like the Jedi Eeth Koth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras1310 Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Originally posted by Eets Actually, Humanoid would still probably be a better descriptive word than Human, since Human implies being from Earth... This just keeps going on. Well, I don't know about you, but to me a human is any member of the species homo sapien. Human is just the common name. Sure, all humans are from Earth right now, but that's because we can't go anywhere else yet. Or to put it another way, we are all human regardless of what place on Earth we are from. Why should that change just because our place of birth is not Earth? Also, by your reasoning, there could be no humans in Star Wars, because there is no Earth to be from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eets Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Originally posted by ras1310 Also, by your reasoning, there could be no humans in Star Wars, because there is no Earth to be from. Brilliant deduction, sherlock! In my mind, that's why everyone speaks "Basic" instead of "English".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Originally posted by ras1310 This just keeps going on. Well, I don't know about you, but to me a human is any member of the species homo sapien. Homo sapiens are also from Earth. You might be thinking that these people your seeing came from Earth but remember(its a movie ) that it's suppose to have happened along time ago in a far away galaxy. LIke you said we(humans) can't travel to other planets so they can't be human(homo sapiens from planet earth). This topic is starting to wonder into the General discussion area. Probably would fit better now on leXX's Star Wars forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras1310 Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 So, they can't be human because humans are from Earth, even though this is fiction and human characters are most compatible with human viewers. Tell you what: if we're still around when people start being born on Mars, we can debate it then. For now, I'm dropping it. I can't win a debate when I'm no longer sure what the terms of the debate actually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 Originally posted by ras1310 ...Tell you what: if we're still around when people start being born on Mars, we can debate it then. For now, I'm dropping it. If people are being born on Mars they will be from Earth. They'll be the children of Mars settlers(humans). It's like your heritage if you ancestors are Scotish you can go anywhere and be born anywhere and you still have Scotish heritage. Now you can where a kilt and look Scotish but that doesn't mean you are. This is a movie with actors. Actors are humans. For the story they aren't playing people from Earth. I can't win a debate when I'm no longer sure what the terms of the debate actually are. There's no winning/losing or right/wrong. It's a difference of opinion. Everyone has a different one. Yours is as valid as mine(Eets' isn't too valid ). Banned? What do you mean banned. Darn it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimaster Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 For those who are interested... I finally found a very small tidbit of information about the marriage business I mentioned earlier. Its in the preview which can be accessed from StarWarsKnights.com Previews section. The actual preview I found it in was the one at Gamers.com, here. It basically says that: LucasArts says this is the biggest project it's ever been involved with in terms of size and scope. And from what we've seen, we believe it: There are 10 worlds to explore, more than 100 prerendered and in-game cut-scenes, over 12,000 lines of spoken dialogue (yes, spoken dialogue, with lip-syncing characters), and multiple minigames. There's even a significant love interest, but BioWare is mum on the details. Pretty interesting. I still can't find the original thing I first saw it in, but this is pretty close. Of course Bioware is "mum on the details", it would be such a waste to tell us without letting us find out on our own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jed Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 So, somebody has a fancy for Bastila, eh? Interesting indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimaster Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 I wonder what its worth though?? I mean, it sounds like its pretty hard to achieve. I mean, aside from being married which is interesting, what motivation does the player have to attempt to complete this little sidequest?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne- Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Do we really gotta deal with family stuff...bro vs bro....the team hottie is your sister stuff.Theres really no offical proff,just speculation and things people read.If someone sees a offical post about family,please post it here. Heres a thought...maybe you guys are right.A member of your party/team is family--bro/sister.They might die,or get killed in battle that might cause your character to go dark.Interesting thought huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 I wonder what its worth though?? I mean, it sounds like its pretty hard to achieve. I mean, aside from being married which is interesting, what motivation does the player have to attempt to complete this little sidequest?? None at all, I guess. I haven't played Baldur's Gate 2(in which there are romance subquests), and I don't believe you gain anything in those games(no special power or anything). Mayhaps some experience gain, but I doubt it. Plus, I want to see lots of the story, and it'd be some nice character development that I will prolly try to follow and complete this romantic subquest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimaster Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 I'll probably do the marriage quest at least once, depending on whether its worth anything special I might do it again. What I probably will do is try doing it light, then try doing it dark and seeing what, if possible, difference it makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Although I doubt wether there'll be an actual marriage in the game(and if there is, prolly in the ending movie), you made a good point about wether this romantic subquest will also continue depending on which side you choose. That's a rather good one... if you play as a male character, I can see Bastilla joining you in the Dark side, and I suppose that the romance could continue then. But I still suspect that Carth Onassi is the female's love interest, and I just don't see him going to the Dark side, even if the love of his life goes to it. I dunno, I speculate that the romance subquest will be terminated if you join the Dark side. I see love as the complete opposite of what the Dark side stands for, and it shouldn't be there. Maybe only as a catalyst to bring a Dark Jedi back to the Light(see Anakin/Vader)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimaster Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 You hit the nail on the head Burrie. I didn't really think that a love quest is something typical of a dark jedi, but you raised an interesting point about Carth Onassi. I never even considered it would be a party member. I just assumed that it would be the PC's business and you could pursue it at your leisure. That would make it more interesting though, having an NPC following his own little agenda within your party. Its a real puzzle though, I doubt it will be an obvious thing once playing the game. (by it I mean the marriage side quest) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 I believe the developers stated at the official forums that although you'd be controlling the actions of your party members, they would all have their own agendas to pursue, and have their own opinion about things that'll happen in KotOR. This pretty much means that if the players slowly begins to transform to the Dark Side, the party members may object... or actually encourage him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_V2.1 Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Looks more like ordering them to carry out actions, because they can still disagree on that stuff as well and if they get scared in battle they will runaway or whatever they are scripted to do I believe. Hmm secret agendas are good:), now let's see how if these agendas involve other party members...perhaps a couple of the NPCs will have a 'history' with each other or just plain grow to dislike each other during the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimaster Posted May 10, 2003 Share Posted May 10, 2003 Hmm secret agendas are good, now let's see how if these agendas involve other party members...perhaps a couple of the NPCs will have a 'history' with each other or just plain grow to dislike each other during the game I believe there was mention of a possible link between certain characters, and this whole romance quest thing raises more questions about connections between NPC's. But the point is that if the NPC's are developing hatred towards each other, they could a) leave your party, b) go to the dark side, c) fight with the other NPC which would force you to choose a side either way. As far as "history" goes, that would simply make it all more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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