reptille00 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 It would be hard to think about even a skilled swordsman wielding a cortosis blade being able to take out a jedi...being that jedi have superhuman reflexes..and as for non jedi using a lightsaber..they would be a bigger threat to themselves than the opponent..only the handle on a lightsaber has any weight..making judging the blades position difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne- Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 But WHAT IF our dear mission Vao was a force user,a former jedi or something-I'm sure she'd be able to still use those skills.A few of us think maybe she was a jedi or something,who knows...but she 'd be a great ally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted May 7, 2003 Author Share Posted May 7, 2003 Originally posted by TheChosenOne- A few of us think maybe she was a jedi or something,who knows...but she 'd be a great ally. Sorry to bust your bubble but she's to young to be a former Jedi. She's a teenager. They mentioned her on the Bioware forums a few months ago. They wouldn't make her a former Jedi they already have one of those. It can't be to common a thing to leave the Jedi unless you joined the Sith. But I'm sure she will make a great ally. Especially since she has a 7 foot wookie as her best friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptille00 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 I saw in Mission Vao's bio something about how Zalbaar and her would make a great duo...is there info out there about them being friends? I havent see any info on the relationship between the two of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne- Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 They make a great team..a twilek and wookie.She COULD HAVE left the jedi order to become a bounty hunter or maybe she left cause of a loss or something.In this forum,everyone guesses,or speculates as to what may happen in the game.I don't care what those bios say,i'm trusting my guy,thats it for now.Everyone-PC,NPCs have a past and seems to have something to hide. "Keep your friends close,and your enemys closer' Someones going to screw you over.It would make for a interesting plot. Ok,maybe i've played too much metal gear solid 1&2.Chris carter and mulder said it the best,Trust no one-lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Just curious, why do you want Mission Vao to be so desperately a Jedi? From what I've read so far(thus I might've missed something), there has been little to none evidence that she is one. As for Zaalbaar and Mission, I personally guess that they'll be a duo stuck on Taris of all places, where we will meet them. As to how the encounter begins and ends, no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted May 7, 2003 Author Share Posted May 7, 2003 Originally posted by TheChosenOne- In this forum,everyone guesses,or speculates as to what may happen in the game. Thank you for letting me know what goes on in this forum. Most people are making educated guesses. But just saying "Hmmm, I think <enter character name> here is <historical data>." is more like wishful thinking. Hey, whatever blows your skirt up though. From what I've read so far(thus I might've missed something), there has been little to none evidence that she is one. Try no evidence. My educated guess on Mission is that she's a security specialist. I got this information from a caption I read where the PC asks Mission to make him a security spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne- Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Ok,ok,...you guys might be right.I might have been mistaken and was hoping to much.It was just a thought.Maybe i wanted her to be more like aylaa secura..my fault. But what about the "plot thoughts" of someone betraying you.Who knows,with all theses rogues,thieves and scandrouls,anythings possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted May 7, 2003 Author Share Posted May 7, 2003 Originally posted by TheChosenOne- But what about the "plot thoughts" of someone betraying you.Who knows,with all theses rogues,thieves and scandrouls,anythings possible. That's a definite possibility. :looks at Canderous Ordo in an untrusting way: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne- Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Think about it.Most of those guys are rogues with a shadowy past.Me...I'm keeping my level WAY above theres,just in case.I can't see a jedi flipping on you,maybe a former one--YES.Just keep your options open.And i really don't care how big the wookie is,remember-""Size matters not!""--plus,he'll burn up rather quickly after a shot of force lightning. Hey Hannibal,Burrie,dark jedi,kabutar and the rest of you experts....heres one--Force lightning can only be used by one who has been invloved with the darkside.In the comics,and maybe..."maybe' the novels,force lightning doesn't hurt dark ones.Basiclly,it won't work against darkside users,so....if my guy uses it against the main Sith-Lord bad guy in KOTOR,will it work?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber_Saber Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 ChosenOne, if you can only get Lightning after being Dark explain how Yoda uses it. Personally, I've never heard of the limit on lightning. I just suppose that Lightsiders have much less need of it than Darksiders would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Check these out, I'm pretty sure we havn't seen these before... I got them from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 leXXX, these were, I believe, already listed in this thread. Force lightning can only be used by one who has been invloved with the darkside.In the comics,and maybe..."maybe' the novels,force lightning doesn't hurt dark ones.Basiclly,it won't work against darkside users,so....if my guy uses it against the main Sith-Lord bad guy in KOTOR,will it work?: Dark Side Lightning doesn't work against bad guys? You sure about that? I'm mostly familiar with the novels, and only have a little bit experience when it comes to the comics(although I tend to know most of the storylines), and I believe lightning pretty much hurts everyone, good or bad, unless you've learned to defend yourself against. Plus, Lightning worked rather well against the Dark Jedi in Jedi Knight and Jedi Outcast. If you watch the second screenie that LeXXX posted, the PC can be seen firing lightning at the (what appear to be) Dark Jedi, and they are very much affected by it. There might be a power to absorb, or at least, repel the lightning... still, I reckon that Malak would have some kind of protection, but he might receive an itch if you attack him BTW. Wouldn't it be kinda neat if we could deflect the lightning with a saber? We've seen Kenobi do it ChosenOne, if you can only get Lightning after being Dark explain how Yoda uses it. I hereby present to you a quote from the official novelisation of the Attack of the Clones movie... More lightning poured forth from Dooku's hand, but Yoda continued to catch it and turn it, and seemed to become even more settled in hsi defensive posture It's a bit of a common misconception, I guess. Yoda pretty much deflects Dooku's attack right back at him... he doesn't draw upon the power of the Dark Side itself to cast the Lightning Personally, I've never heard of the limit on lightning. I just suppose that Lightsiders have much less need of it than Darksiders would. It was quoted somewhere in the official materials(if you wish to know, I could inquire at a few sources) that Lightning is STRICTLY a Dark Side power ONLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Originally posted by Burrie leXXX, these were, I believe, already listed in this[/url thread.[/b] Nope, don't see them there, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Och, check the final two pictures in the thread, the ones with the text "A character poses off his beautiful helmet and sword, unaware of the dangers behind him." and "And finally, another shot of the player engaging Dark Jedi using Force Lightning.". These are the same shots, are they not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 I must see something different to you then. The last two pics in that thread to my eyes are the one with the bullet time effect with the rancor in the very far distance, and one of a wookie, Jolee, Bastila and Dark Jedi fighting. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Odd... are you went to this thread, titled "The latest new screenshots (Gamesdomain and official site) "? Sounds to me that you're watching the old Lucasarts pictures they had there(which I found in a different thread), before they overwritten them with some new screenshots. Mayhaps your browser still has them cached? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Yep, you were right. I refreshed the page and the new pics are showing fine now. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber_Saber Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Originally posted by Burrie It's a bit of a common misconception, I guess. Yoda pretty much deflects Dooku's attack right back at him... he doesn't draw upon the power of the Dark Side itself to cast the Lightning That makes sense, I suppose. I just thought the blue-energy ball thingy was some sort of advanced absorbing technique, and he was just pretty much shooting back out at Dooku. It was quoted somewhere in the official materials(if you wish to know, I could inquire at a few sources) that Lightning is STRICTLY a Dark Side power ONLY. Here's a funny thing. In the novel (Yeah, I know they are not official materials but still, neither is any of the games) Destiny's Way Jacen Solo uses lightning, but he's not a dark-sider. Oh well. Probably a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Funny thing, I was just reading that same passage. Even more funnier is that Anakin pretty much devastated an assassin and chocked a young Tarkin when he was but a wee young padawan in Rogue Planet, and we know how he ended up. Another funny thing, Jaina Solo was a Jedi Knight knight, yet she was able to unleash Force Lightning as well upon an enemy, and she slowly began to drift to the Dark Side. What do these two funny things have in common? By using these Dark side powers, they both slowly begin to drift to the Dark side. However, they drew upon these powers when they were a Jedi Knight... basically, you don't NEED to be a Dark Sider to call upon Force Lightning. I don't think that the Force works in ranks, it only works on how the individual wields it. When you use a power like lightning, you're calling and using the power of the Dark side. To continue on your Destiny's way example, is that I wouldn't be too surprised if Jacen will slowly go to the Dark side if he keeps this up. The series ain't over as of yet. Let's see how it plays out. I have yet to read the first two novels in the final NJO series(Force Heretic), but I'm curious to see wether Jacen is still drawing upon the Dark side at that point. Now, I tend to hear that Kyle Katarn is a very special case when it comes to the Force, seeing as how he wields both the Light and the Dark Side... what I think is that Kyle went over to the Dark Side in JO. I mean, just look at the cutscene with Tavion... I think that we can agree that Kyle pretty much uses the Dark Side in that scene. He gradually continued to use these dark powers, but after the adventures of Jedi Outcast, I believe he slowly let go of this dark power, and gradually rejoined the Light side. He was slowly beginning to calm down once he found out that Jan was still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne- Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Last year,well-i think it was last year,there was a four part mini-series featuring Darth Maul.In the comic,the emperor orders Maul to kill the leaders of the Black Sun.Maul,does as hes told.The main boss,had a bodyguard a Sith Witch.Now,i got no freakin idea what a female sith witch is,but she fought with darkside powers and not a saber but a sword.It might have been the famous cortius metal-i don't know. Maul basically kicks her ass,but she attacks him with force lightning..."Fool-you don't know who i am' she yells at him hitting him with lightning.."NO...You don't know what I AM' Maul says as he stares at her as the lightning didn't affect him.Maul gets up and slices her in half as she stops in fear and realizes what maul is. So,so far we got two different examples of force lightning working and not working against Sith/dark jedi.Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrie Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Last year,well-i think it was last year,there was a four part mini-series featuring Darth Maul.In the comic,the emperor orders Maul to kill the leaders of the Black Sun.Maul,does as hes told.The main boss,had a bodyguard a Sith Witch.Now,i got no freakin idea what a female sith witch is,but she fought with darkside powers and not a saber but a sword.It might have been the famous cortius metal-i don't know. I believe I saw a picture of that comic once... wasn't she one of the witches of Dathomir?(as seen in Courtship of Princess Leia). Mayhaps the sword was one of them Sith Swords, but I wouldn't know.... Maul basically kicks her ass,but she attacks him with force lightning..."Fool-you don't know who i am' she yells at him hitting him with lightning.."NO...You don't know what I AM' Maul says as he stares at her as the lightning didn't affect him.Maul gets up and slices her in half as she stops in fear and realizes what maul is. So,so far we got two different examples of force lightning working and not working against Sith/dark jedi.Who knows? Well then, I do believe that basically shows that there is a skill which allows you to defend yourself against Force Lightning... one that Yoda, and Kenobi apparantly knew... plus, I can remember that Luke is also capable of defending himself against Palpatine's lightning attack for a few moments in the novelisation. Mmmm, Jedi Knight and Jedi Outcast both also had a power to protect yourself against Lightning and any Dark side attack, right? Mmm, I wonder wether we'll be capable of learning this mysterious power in KotOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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