numark79 Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Sup, I was wondering if this is at all possible. I know it is already possible to sort of start as a Jedi from the start using the KotOR savegame editor, but I was hoping that this way of adding the Jedi classes to the start menu could be an option too =) Is this at all possibe, or has it been done already? If not, this is something I'd really like to work on next, and so any advice at all would be really great =) peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colma Adawin Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 I think your idea would have to affect the scoundral , scout and solider, then change them into the appropiate jedi classes and then you have to change the feats and MUST add the lightsabre prefencey and the Jedi Defence to start you down the path with the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Khasei Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Not to be a butthead, but you can already do this so easy with the KSE why look for something more complicated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colma Adawin Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 yeah he's got the KSE but wants to be able to be a Jedi RIGHT at the start of the game, a modder in the making maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numark79 Posted June 5, 2004 Author Share Posted June 5, 2004 Originally posted by MattColejk yeah he's got the KSE but wants to be able to be a Jedi RIGHT at the start of the game, a modder in the making maybe LOL, yeah, modding this game is so much more involved than JA it seems, heheh. I'm planning to release my first one to pcgamemods pretty soon, =) But yeah, do you think it would be possible without overwriting the soldier, scout, and scoundrel classes at the start-up? If not , I guess it would be kind of cool to have a uniform line up of all three Jedi classes from the start. =) peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgnails Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Actually, putting jedi classes on the start up screen is easy, I did it myself so I could put up the download for it if you want it....It will allow you to start out as a jedi with the feats and such. But the only problem is that you have to go from level 1 to level 2 in order to gain force powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sysergy Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Ahh cool I WANT I WANT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Khasei Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 For modding purposes duh what the heck was I thinking. Anyway, yes you can use a uti script to do that for you I believe. There was actually one for Carth by accident in the FANTASTIC Sith Armada mod. Carth has a Star Forge robe and is Level 4 Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Atris* Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Originally posted by mgnails Actually, putting jedi classes on the start up screen is easy, I did it myself so I could put up the download for it if you want it....It will allow you to start out as a jedi with the feats and such. But the only problem is that you have to go from level 1 to level 2 in order to gain force powers. Excuse me! it was me who did that for you, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colma Adawin Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Look it really doesn't matter who did it! its got nothing to do with this thread! whoever did it just help numark79 to do the same! if you insist on having a problem with eachother PLEASE solve it with PM'S dont bring irrelevent posts into it! MattCole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Atris* Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 do do it you edit the classes.2da its as simple as that,, copy the row jedi guardian and paste that in the soldier row and do the same with the rest. (scout/siental)(scoundral/consular) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgnails Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 I know you did the first version, but I made my own because I was trying to make the new classes which isnt really that difficult. SO I was going to give him my test not your thing....I would have to ask your permission to do that honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Atris* Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 ok i apologise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgnails Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 The download is up. I decided to put up lowiej's version. This has a dialogue.tlk file that comes with it but it is waaaaay too big to put on a freewebs site. so i will just tell you. at the start-up screen, these clases are replaced by jedi classes Scoundrel = Consular Scout = Sentinel Soldier = Gaurdian thats how it will be, without the dialogue.tlk file it will still look like the same screen and say male soldier and such, but when you get to the part where you choose feats, you will get all of the jedi feats that particular class has to offer. Unfortunately, Bioware didnt make it so when you level up from level 0 to level 1, you get to choose force powers. So you wont be able to choose force powers till your next level up yet you can still start out with a lightsaber proficiency and jedi defense as well as force jump for guardians. Enjoy it. you can download it here: http://www.freewebs.com/mgnails/misc.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colma Adawin Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 The Mod work well but the only problem i've got with it is that it changes ALL of the classes yes i was a scout --> Jedi Counsoler BUT Trask is a soldier and hes a Jedi Guardian! without the powers / Feats!!!! Besides this its a good mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgnails Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Heh, I forgot to say it would probably change everyone in game who was a non jedi before. If you use this in kotor, you can start out as a consular and such because taris is easy with just even being a jedi. Then when you get to dantooine you can cross class so that will be funny. Though i think that particular classes.2da has the original jedi classes replaced with new classes so when you choose to be a jedi guardian, there is a possiblility of becoming a sith lord or jedi master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_ToMeR Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Originally posted by mgnails Heh, I forgot to say it would probably change everyone in game who was a non jedi before. If you use this in kotor, you can start out as a consular and such because taris is easy with just even being a jedi. Then when you get to dantooine you can cross class so that will be funny. Though i think that particular classes.2da has the original jedi classes replaced with new classes so when you choose to be a jedi guardian, there is a possiblility of becoming a sith lord or jedi master. That is a good idea for a mod. To make the starting class Jedi, and in dantooine to get classes like Sith Lord, Jedi Master, like in kotor 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgnails Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Sith Lord and Jedi Master are classes that will be in KOTOR: AE but if you all want it i suppose we could give you the classes as a kotor mod as well. Wehave plans for like 4 more classes now but I wouldnt want to spoil it for you to much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_ToMeR Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Originally posted by mgnails Sith Lord and Jedi Master are classes that will be in KOTOR: AE but if you all want it i suppose we could give you the classes as a kotor mod as well. Wehave plans for like 4 more classes now but I wouldnt want to spoil it for you to much more. When you think AE will finish? or how much do you still need to finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgnails Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 Not that long considering. Id figure it would take us about 4 months to do make all of the models that will be ingame because we only have 1 good modeler and a few decent ones. During that 4 months we will be finishing the dialogues and scripts. Hopefully our recoders will have done their job by then but I don't know how long it will take for them to recode what they have to. Then after that we will connect everything which will probably take a month to do. After that we will have the game done except for voice acting And based on the amount of voice actors we have now it will take a few months to do that and get it ingame. And while some of the team deticates their time to voice acting, the rest of the team will be adding little things. Probably a few extra sidequests and some new items and maybe touch up a few areas of the game. So there is a very strong chance this will be finished before kotor 2. Keep in mind we are working as much as we can and as hard as we can to make this thing high quality so don't say we are moving too fast. SO I figure we can get the LS plot done in about 6-7 months. The Ds plot will be done in a month because all of the models will be made and all of the recoding will be done. All it will take is some "modding" of our existing things to add a DS plot. If you want more details, check out the forums: http://www.elementx.org/Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numark79 Posted June 6, 2004 Author Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by lowiej do do it you edit the classes.2da its as simple as that,, copy the row jedi guardian and paste that in the soldier row and do the same with the rest. (scout/siental)(scoundral/consular) that sounds cool, I think I'll try that out =) Originally posted by MattColejk The Mod work well but the only problem i've got with it is that it changes ALL of the classes yes i was a scout --> Jedi Counsoler BUT Trask is a soldier and hes a Jedi Guardian! without the powers / Feats!!!! Besides this its a good mod! LOL, I guess you could just replace the Scout class with whatever Jedi class you are going to use for that time through =) That way none of your NPC's classes should be overridden, since there are no Scout NPC's right? ps. btw, has anybody else tried to submit stuff to pcgamemods lately? The thing has been down for me for awhile now, =\ peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackel Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 "since there are no Scout NPC's right?" i believe Big Z is a scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buhallin Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 btw. is there an 2da editor around which can add "easy" columns" to the 2da files (Kt can't) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numark79 Posted June 8, 2004 Author Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Jackel "since there are no Scout NPC's right?" i believe Big Z is a scout DOH! of course, dang what the heck was i thinking? heheh Originally posted by mgnails Sith Lord and Jedi Master are classes that will be in KOTOR: AE but if you all want it i suppose we could give you the classes as a kotor mod as well. Wehave plans for like 4 more classes now but I wouldnt want to spoil it for you to much more. That would be awesome! But also is there any way at all to edit the start menu so that you can start as a Jedi, without altering the classes of your NPC's in the process? =) peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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