Tyrion Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Originally posted by Gabrobot Yes (in 1600x1200), but that's because of hardware not because "ATI sucks in OpenGL". Because of hardware? You do know that the higher the resolution, the more it taxes the video card? I have an Ati card btw, so I'm not biased against Ati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrobot Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 Originally posted by Tyrion Because of hardware? You do know that the higher the resolution, the more it taxes the video card? I have an Ati card btw, so I'm not biased against Ati. I meant things like the number of pipes...that's why the X800 Pro is so much worse than the 6800's and X800 XT due to it having four less pipes. Apparently Doom 3 literally uses different parts of cards then most other games use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest If you wanna play Doom 3, dont get a Radeon, instead get something like a GeForce FX 5700 Ultra, since Doom 3 runs best on nvidia cards. Im getting a new comp in the next month: Limited Edition Over-Clocked 256mb 5700 nVidia Video card --- 3.2 Pentium 4 CPU --- 1 gig memory --- 240 gig HD --- Flat Screen --- I can't wait for it to come in about a month Pic TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Originally posted by Gabrobot Link That is because they are using the cheap OEM versions stright from nvidia to test the benchmarks, thats why it lost to the ATI cards. But if you run a video card that is from a different manufactuer like MSI, Ledtek, Alberton, Asus, Gainward.... etc it will run much better. The Ledtek 6800 Ultra already owned the X800 XT and nvidia's OEM 6800 Ultra in Half Life 2. I read a benchmark on it. (Forgot link, but i think its tom'shardware) And i'm 100% sure it would be the same on the FX cards as well as the Radeon cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest But thats proberly during last year when nvidia launched the FX series. Right now, this time no one won, ATI's Radeon X800 and nvidia's 6800 Ultra both tied together cause they both run equally well on almost every game. Maybe... but who can afford those. On realisticly priced hardware you have to pick ATI at the moment... Once the 6800 price drops it will be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 john carmack It should be noted that all of the modern cards play the game very well, and benchmark scores should not be the be-all-end-all decision maker. Scores will probably improve somewhat with future driver releases, and other factors like dual slots or dual power connectors can weigh against some of the high end cards. The benchmarking was conducted on-site, and the hardware vendors did not have access to the demo before hand, so we are confident that there is no egregious cheating going on, but it should be noted that some of the ATI cards did show a performance drop when colored mip levels were enabled, implying some fudging of the texture filtering. This has been a chronic issue for years, and almost all vendors have been guilty of it at one time or another. I hate the idea of drivers analyzing texture data and changing parameters, but it doesn't visibly impact the quality of the game unless you know exactly what to look for on a specific texture. On the other hand, the Nvidia drivers have been tuned for Doom's primary light/surface interaction fragment program, and innocuous code changes can "fall off the fast path" and cause significant performance impacts, especially on NV30 class cards. A note on overclocking: it is very likely that overclocked configurations that "play everything else perfectly" will start to show problems on D3 due to new usage patterns. Everyone is of course free to do whatever they want with their own hardware, but don't complain to us... Talking to John briefly about his overclocking comments made some things clear to us that many enthusiasts will need to be aware of. When he speaks of "new usage patterns" he is literally talking about transistors on some of new GPUs that are going to be used for the first time when you play DOOM 3 on your video card. So be aware that pushing your GPU MHz may get you different results in DOOM 3 than with other games. For those of you that think you are not going to have the hardware that you need to play DOOM 3, the fact of the matter is that many of you will be just fine, although an upgrade may still be in your future. As of this afternoon we were playing DOOM 3 on a 1.5GHz Pentium 4 box with a GeForce 4 MX440 video card and having a surprisingly good gaming experience. Even a subtle jump to an AMD 2500+ with a GeForce 3 video card that is two years old will deliver a solid gaming experience that will let you enjoy the game the way id Software designed it to be. That fact alone should let many of you know that you will not be left behind in experiencing DOOM 3. All that considered, for those of you that are in the high end video card market, the GeForce 6800GT looks to very much be the sweet spot when it comes to playing DOOM 3 with all the eye candy turned on at high resolutions. Obviously the 6800 Ultra is even faster for those of you that need the best no matter the cost. If I had to make a list of high end video cards to purchase to play DOOM 3, the GeForce 6800Ultra and GeForce 6800GT would easily take the number 1 and number 2 spots with the ATI Radeon X800XT-PE rounding out the number 3 place. For those of you that have not yet pre-purchased your copy of DOOM 3 because you thought your system would not be up to par and are not planning a system upgrade, you can now rest easy. I can now say with confidence, if you are playing any of the newer 3D games that have come out this year, the odds are that your system will provide a great DOOM 3 gaming experience in terms of IQ and video performance. HardOCP are doing a doom3 hardware guide next week, so i'm going to wait for that i think. I still think i might go for the 9700 pro if i can find it anywhere... otherwise it will have to be the 980pro i guess, if i can afford it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Originally posted by toms HardOCP are doing a doom3 hardware guide next week, so i'm going to wait for that i think. I still think i might go for the 9700 pro if i can find it anywhere... otherwise it will have to be the 980pro i guess, if i can afford it... Well you should beable to, its about $200 US, damn cheap now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troopr-Undr-Fir Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Originally posted by toms Maybe... but who can afford those. On realisticly priced hardware you have to pick ATI at the moment... Once the 6800 price drops it will be a different story. That and the fact that you need a... I think a 480 watt power source... Damn power companies... they make me bleed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrobot Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 Originally posted by toms I still think i might go for the 9700 pro if i can find it anywhere... otherwise it will have to be the 980pro i guess, if i can afford it... The 9800 Pro isn't much more expensive, and it's a very nice card...it's probably worth the extra $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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