DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 i realize by saying what i said i might have started a flame war, so we better stop it before it starts, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 how? if anyone it was insane sith by calling me a whiner. you and I are just disagreeing. as people do in debates. and no, clinton walked into a good economy and such. he just had to keep it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 just calm down, im not just talking about you. reagan is on a "love him or hate him" basis and it is probable that one of us will throw a flame because the issue is so fragile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 I am calm, you cant tell, because its type, not words. but I dont love reagan. I wsnt alive when he was in office, but IMo he was a great president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 i can accept that you thought reagan was a good president, but i cant take your opinion seriously unless you give me some good things that he did and back it up with proof, or else i'll just think you're telling me what your parents say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 the whole thing with gorbachav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn the whole thing with gorbachav. Elaborate, what did he do with Gorbachev that made him a fantastic president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 stoped him and commanded him to take down the wall. you aren good with history, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 as i said before, Reagan had NOTHING to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union, they were on the verge of bankruptcy long before Reagan took office. He could have done nothing, not even the arms buildup and the USSR would've fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 i bet that if Clinton got rid of gorbachev and had the berlin wall taken down you wouldn't call HIM a good president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 if he didn ,I would, but he dint. so ha/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 so ur basically saying its a manner of timeframe, any president at that time would have been good because of the collapse, therefore, he was in the right place at the right time, so what if it's lame, it's TRUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 but its time. if clintons bad hadnt made that left turn when he was 16, he maybe would anever met whoever his wife is and clinton woulda never been born. all about right place at right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 so ur basically saying that its a matter of timeframe, any president who was in office during the collapse would have been great. so, he was in the right place at the right time so what if its lame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 whoops sorry about the double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 but the presidency is not about chance, you cant base the fate of the nation on a roll of the dice. reagan did nothing of importance in his time in office that he personally made a decision for, it was all be chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 DarthDurp, you can edit your posts you know... intead of double posting. You can even delete your posts, so I suggest you edit your posts when you have something to add and delete the double posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 but u just said it wasnt about chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 EXACTLY, thats why i dont think reagan wasn't a good president, because he just happened to have something good happen for him, by chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 that reasoning makes no sense. refer to my clintons dad theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 ur missing my point. you are giving reagan credit for something that was dictated by time, not him, time. he did nothing to make him a good president, it all just fell into his lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 no it didnt. because he has awesome speaking skills. and I assume saddam fell into Bush's lap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDurp Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 reagan did have good speaking skills, but that hardly caused the collapse, it was their lack of money that caused it. and Saddam didn't fall into Bush's lap, because bush was palnning on invading before he took office, to finish his daddy's job. and one difference between the collapse of the soviet union and the so-called liberation of iraq - the collapse was good for the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 thats all just liberla propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 What else do you call politics if not propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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