Lights are Super Frustrating

Lord Frodo · August 15, 2004

Hey everyone,

Im almost done with my first map, but these stupid lights are making me mad. I searched the forums and thought i found an answer to the problem. And the problem is that my lighting looks like crap, and theres some places that have like black spots on it. I started using the scale option with the ligts but its still looking bad. I try using radius and no go. I just need some expert advice on the subject cuz i want to be done with this map.

Please reply soon!!

Thanks,

Frodo

lukeskywalker1 · August 15, 2004

Post a screenshot

Lord Frodo · August 15, 2004

lol how do i do that

lukeskywalker1 · August 15, 2004

ummm

Load your map, take a screenshot. Upload it to a server, like http://www.imageshack.us/

Come back here. Type in the URL with the tags, and the screenshot will appear here.

Lord Frodo · August 15, 2004

k

imm making about 5 pics. 2 ind radiant and three in jka.

there you goo, you may have to enlarge the pics, soo i hope its decrptive.

Lord Frodo · August 15, 2004

btw... i see that your a scripter i have nt looked lol but whats a tutorial for me to use . Cuz i know i need to know how to do some of that stuff to have really good maps .....i think, but id like to learn anyways. And PS ......Jesus does Own

Lil Killa · August 15, 2004

Are all the lights in your map triggered? if so what are you using to trigger them? Also are you using a compile that has the -light switch in it?

Lord Frodo · August 15, 2004

ok heres the deal. My map keeps saying max vert 12, that whole crap

i searched and found out why, but i cant get my game to stop sayin it. Ive tryed copying the map and takig out brushes that have more than 12 vertices. No go. So i kept looking and finally i saw a post that talked about using te -lomen in the q3map program, so i got it and ive been doing a bsp and light phase in my compile. thats all i can think to do. so all that jsut to answer your quiestion : some rooms have lights atached to a trig multi with the use switch cliked. so the lights turned of and on. but i have soo many lights... like one room has like 12 lights and i just think im doing it wrong. So thats why i just had those 5 scaled 4xs. but my floor is all black not know y.

So ill make a pic of the q3map compileers im using

ive been doig the light and bsp normal process

Lord Frodo

lukeskywalker1 · August 15, 2004

Frodo let me see his, I ran brushcleanup (it removed 157 invalid brushes.. well.. it was like 150...)

Heres the compile log:

2.5.14

1 threads

Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.14

GtkRadiant - v1.5.0 Apr 7 2004 19:55:19

The Red Swingline

VFS Init: C:/Program Files/LucasArts/Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy/GameData/base/

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entering shaders/yoshi.shader

Loading C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.map

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0 areaportals

Size: -8266, -6404, -1285 to 10584, 7288, 14119

block size = { 1024 1024 1024 }

BOGUS BOGUS BOGUS Entity 229, Brush 0: Entity leaked

6340 leafs filled

writing C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.prt

Fog 0 has visible side 5

Fog 1 has visible side 2

Fog 2 has visible side 0

--- WriteSurfaceExtraFile ---

Writing C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.srf

Writing C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.bsp

Storing lightgrid: 0 points

Wrote 10.7 MB (11215092 bytes)

70 seconds elapsed

2.5.14

1 threads

Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.14

GtkRadiant - v1.5.0 Apr 7 2004 19:55:19

The Red Swingline

VFS Init: C:/Program Files/LucasArts/Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy/GameData/base/

--- Vis ---

fastvis = true

Loading C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.bsp

Loading C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.prt

9147 portalclusters

29619 numportals

16604 numfaces

************ ERROR ************

MAX_MAP_VISIBILITY exceeded

2.5.14

1 threads

Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.14

GtkRadiant - v1.5.0 Apr 7 2004 19:55:19

The Red Swingline

VFS Init: C:/Program Files/LucasArts/Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy/GameData/base/

--- Light ---

Fast mode enabled

entering shaders/shaderlist.txt

entering shaders/bespin.shader

entering shaders/bounty.shader

entering shaders/byss.shader

entering shaders/cairn.shader

entering shaders/common.shader

entering shaders/danger.shader

entering shaders/decals.shader

entering shaders/desert.shader

entering shaders/doomgiver.shader

entering shaders/factory.shader

entering shaders/flares.shader

entering shaders/fogs.shader

entering shaders/h_evil.shader

entering shaders/hoth.shader

entering shaders/imp_mine.shader

Script file shaders/impdetention.shader was not found

entering shaders/imperial.shader

entering shaders/jnegretetest.shader

entering shaders/kejim.shader

entering shaders/korriban.shader

entering shaders/models.shader

entering shaders/mp.shader

entering shaders/narshaddaa.shader

entering shaders/nar_streets.shader

entering shaders/quicktrip.shader

entering shaders/rail.shader

entering shaders/rbettenbergtest.shader

entering shaders/rift.shader

entering shaders/rocky_ruins.shader

entering shaders/rooftop.shader

entering shaders/sandcrawler.shader

entering shaders/siege.shader

entering shaders/skies.shader

entering shaders/stu.shader

entering shaders/system.shader

entering shaders/taspir.shader

entering shaders/tests.shader

entering shaders/vjun.shader

entering shaders/wedge.shader

entering shaders/yavin.shader

entering shaders/isf.shader

entering shaders/common_alphascale.shader

entering shaders/DK64Jungle.shader

entering shaders/darkcrypt.shader

entering shaders/yodasswamp.shader

entering shaders/cavern.shader

entering shaders/yoshi.shader

Loading C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.bsp

Loading C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.srf

Loading C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.map

entering C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy\GameData\base\maps\frodo1ab.map

--- SetupGrid ---

Grid size = { 144, 144, 192 }

995600 grid points

437 point lights

10 spotlights

0 diffuse (area) lights

1 sun/sky lights

448 total lights

0 culled lights

--- TraceGrid ---

0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (182)

131 x 95 x 80 = 995600 grid

--- MapRawLightmap ---

0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (4)

1185856 luxels

1025567 luxels mapped

61730 luxels occluded

448 total lights

0 culled lights

--- IlluminateRawLightmap ---

0...1...2...3...4...WARNING: Hit per-surface style limit (4)

WARNING: Hit per-surface style limit (4)

5...6...7...

As you can see, I didnt run light all the way through, but he has a bunch of errors!

Lord Frodo · August 15, 2004

hey yall just to clear somthing up.. the reason theres soo many warnings about the textures is because he only had the map file not hte textures soo disregard that part.

GothiX · August 15, 2004

Don't make those lights switchable. Switchable lights count as lights with lightstyles.

SMoKE · August 15, 2004

Instead, you could try to use the key 'ambient' in Worldspawn. (Global light.)

Key: Ambient

Value: 50

That should do it.

GothiX · August 15, 2004

Next time I see someone posting that, I'll strangle him.

Lord Frodo · August 15, 2004

hey gothix were you saying that you did nt wnat someone to do a ambient light?

and also what did you mean there like lights with light styles

thanks man

GothiX · August 15, 2004

Ambient light sucks more than all of wedge's maps combined *ducks to avoid incoming axe*, hence you should never use it.

"WARNING: Hit per-surface style limit (4)" says you have more than four switchable lights on one map triangle.

lukeskywalker1 · August 15, 2004

Don't make those lights switchable. Switchable lights count as lights with lightstyles.

Well, for my trailer I had some scripted lights (it added to the effect, I made the lights blue because of all the purplish/bluish junk around the dark jedi.) Do they count as lights with lightstyles? I mean, there really isnt a difference I guess.

These errors caught my eye:

BOGUS BOGUS BOGUS Entity 229, Brush 0: Entity leaked

************ ERROR ************
MAX_MAP_VISIBILITY exceeded

Fog 0 has visible side 5
Fog 1 has visible side 2
Fog 2 has visible side 0

(Your fog isnt textured correctly. I guess you need caulk_fog or nodraw on it...)

And as for this:

Script file shaders/impdetention.shader was not found

I removed the impdetention from my shaders directory (it comes with GTK, but is NOT included in Jedi Academy's Assets.pk3s) I figured there is no need for it, and it messes up the Vjun levels!

GothiX · August 16, 2004

Patch bogus and leaks don't affect lightmaps, nor does MAX_MAP_VISIBILITY. We al know what the last two errors are, the first one is more tricky. Patch bogus happens when you create a patch without an actual volume, which occurs when you try to hit "Cap" on a cone, in example. The top doesn't need a cap, bnut it will be created without having an actual volume.

Good luck finding those..

wedge2211 · August 16, 2004

*roars at GothicX and starts chucking nuclear bombs at him*

Lord Frodo · August 16, 2004

well yall heres the funny thing... i dont have any fog. lol

ummm so max vis doesnt jack stuff up?

-frodo

EvilJedi · August 17, 2004

Make all the things that don't show up right func_doors, then open up entities window and select Inactive. I had the same problem in my Lair of Silence. Only problem with this is, if you throw a det, or a trip mine on the "door" the det or trip mine blows up instantly. Or put more lights really close to the floor.

Lord Frodo · August 18, 2004

thaks evil ill try that

GothiX · August 21, 2004

Remember that water is fog.

Lights are Super Frustrating

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