Johch Ai'oki Posted October 2, 2004 Posted October 2, 2004 Mostly, not exactly the same sounds. That is, unless you downloaded some edited version that had all the sounds. If you're unhappy with the sounds, I'll e-mail you all I have. Two-thirds, however, are what Mongo used. I think you're jumping to conclusions without truely trying it out. Sounds don't have to be drastically different if it's the same character. Taunts, yes, but most things else? No.
Mongo05 Posted October 2, 2004 Author Posted October 2, 2004 I used the mugshots of homer too, and just search for Homer on Google.com
RDX1 Posted October 2, 2004 Posted October 2, 2004 Quote Originally posted by Johch Ai'oki Mostly, not exactly the same sounds. That is, unless you downloaded some edited version that had all the sounds. If you're unhappy with the sounds, I'll e-mail you all I have. Two-thirds, however, are what Mongo used. I think you're jumping to conclusions without truely trying it out. Sounds don't have to be drastically different if it's the same character. Taunts, yes, but most things else? No. No, I think you have misunderstood. I downloaded his model that I linked to. He made one a 'cartoon' skin and one a 'real' skin, he made separate sound folders for the skin when he could of 'linked' to the homer sound, not make a whole new sound folder with the same files for homer_cel Look in the PK3 under sound/char and you will see he doubled the sound files, which adds 3+ MB to the download. I am in no way 'complaining' about his model, I am just saying he didn't have to include the same sounds twice. In his sound config for BOTH models to 'homer' instead of one to 'homer' and one to 'homer_cel'....
Johch Ai'oki Posted October 2, 2004 Posted October 2, 2004 I believe you are still mistaken. Much of the sounds are the same, granted, and that can't be helped knowing I don't have as many sounds as you think... But a bit more variety helps sometimes. But that's my opinion. If you want, I can slowly convert 'em all over to a mono MP3 just for you and e-mail 'em to you so complaints about an extra 3mb are halted. Eh, I guess I should stop thinking most everyone has broadband now.
RDX1 Posted October 2, 2004 Posted October 2, 2004 I still don't understand what you are talking about? You are not the author, so I don't know what you are rambling on about. Any less, I do have broadband, but it's annoying.
Johch Ai'oki Posted October 2, 2004 Posted October 2, 2004 I'm not the author of the model. I did provide the sounds for it, however. I'll make what I'm trying to say simple enough: Sounds mostly same, except taunt and death sounds and some other things. Now if you don't like a few extra MB, why not just convert 'em all to MP3 sounds or, better yet, edit the pk3 file yourself so both models point to one group of sounds so you can delete the other?
Mongo05 Posted October 2, 2004 Author Posted October 2, 2004 Yeah, I'm sorry for the extra file size, i just wanted each model to have a little variety of sounds instead of the same for each one, i know i couldve linked the sounds but i didn't want to.
Thrawn42689 Posted October 2, 2004 Posted October 2, 2004 Quote Originally posted by JustSoICanView 20961 faces Just thought you should all know TEH TRUTH LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA...ehem. Anyway, it needs a ton of work, doesn't look like Homer, et cetera. :\
Mongo05 Posted October 4, 2004 Author Posted October 4, 2004 thats what i used, i think i might start modelling the rest of the simpsons characters, but when i get comments from thrawn, that makes me think back to why i even wanted to start modelling.....
LightNinja Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 well you should go back and think why you used 21000 faces for an easy model, and then, re-do it looking better.
Thrawn42689 Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 Quote Originally posted by Johch Ai'oki I'm not the author of the model. I did provide the sounds for it, however. I'll make what I'm trying to say simple enough: Sounds mostly same, except taunt and death sounds and some other things. Now if you don't like a few extra MB, why not just convert 'em all to MP3 sounds or, better yet, edit the pk3 file yourself so both models point to one group of sounds so you can delete the other? I don't think you get it--at least, I think what he's saying is that you didn't have to include the sounds that WERE the same twice. I realize some of the sounds were different--fine, that's all well and good. But the ones that WEREN'T different needn't have been included twice. Sorry, it drives me insane to see a misunderstanding this simple go unfixed...my head will explode or something.
Johch Ai'oki Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 So you're trying to say you rather would have Homer in his voice when he taunts or dies, yet in, say, when gasping or jumping or landing, etc. You want him to sound like as that default multiplayer guy voice you hear when you don't have enough sounds or somebody's skin/model? If you ask me, I'd rather have Homer in his original voice all the time.
Thrawn42689 Posted October 5, 2004 Posted October 5, 2004 Quote Originally posted by Johch Ai'oki So you're trying to say you rather would have Homer in his voice when he taunts or dies, yet in, say, when gasping or jumping or landing, etc. You want him to sound like as that default multiplayer guy voice you hear when you don't have enough sounds or somebody's skin/model? If you ask me, I'd rather have Homer in his original voice all the time. God damn it, you just don't get it. I give up too. :|
Johch Ai'oki Posted October 5, 2004 Posted October 5, 2004 I think I do get it... But if we take it your way (which I shall call Option One), that's exactly what it'll end up being. Option Two is only one pack of sounds for both models. Option Three is having two packs of sounds, one for each model, with some similarities in small areas... Which would you pick? I don't know about you, but Option Three sounds nicer to me.
Thrawn42689 Posted October 6, 2004 Posted October 6, 2004 Here's what I mean. You have two directories of sounds (named hypothetically, of course), with some of the sounds being the same, like so: Homer1-----Homer2 pain1--------pain2 pain3--------pain3 taunt1------taunt2 taunt4------taunt4 death1-----death1 Now, as you can see, some of the sounds are the same, which increases filesize. The proposal is to link duplicate sounds to the originals, like this: Homer1-----Homer2 pain1--------pain2 pain3--------<<link to pain3 in Homer1 directory>> taunt1------taunt2 taunt4------<<link to taunt4 in Homer1 directory>> death1-----<<link to death1 in Homer1 directory>> This way, you get the same results, but the filesize is reduced by whatever amount of space the duplicate sounds were occupying.
Manquesa Posted October 6, 2004 Posted October 6, 2004 Dude, if he ain't figured it out by now, he ain't never gonna get it
Johch Ai'oki Posted October 6, 2004 Posted October 6, 2004 I kind-of get where he's going on this Manquesa. I just don't know the method, it just sounds more like web-page designing than modding, in spite of the fact that I'm no modding expert. So then, would you please explain how this would be done then, Thrawn?
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