Xavier2 Posted October 9, 2004 Author Share Posted October 9, 2004 One question. Is it possible to alter the size of the model somehow? I'm asking cuz i used the PMBIS.mdl (the small robe body) to make the new robe model, but i think it would be nice if it were available to all jedi sizes. Xavier2 EDIT: I realize there is no other robe model in the game than PMBIS, although other models are mentioned in app.2da. i.e. PMBIL and PMBIM. Then how to make this new unique model a medium or larger size body model? EDIT2: New update!!! - More faithful Jedi robes sleeves!!! There are still 2 problems: 1. The small size referenced above; 2. The model needs a custom texture map. The default tex from the game gets distorted in the model. Any help is very welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 9, 2004 Author Share Posted October 9, 2004 It's pretty mich finished, except for the problems posted above. See here: Xavier2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Originally posted by Xavier2 It's pretty mich finished, except for the problems posted above. See here: Xavier2 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Out of curiosity, will you eventually be squaring off the "skirt" so that it matches the front? Maybe make the sash longer than the robe, just like in the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 that rocks. period. that is some of the best stuff i've seen. ever. good job!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 10, 2004 Author Share Posted October 10, 2004 Originally posted by Achilles Out of curiosity, will you eventually be squaring off the "skirt" so that it matches the front? Maybe make the sash longer than the robe, just like in the movies. If, by squaring off you mean "closing" the "skirt", puting the left and right edges togheter in the midlle, it's possible. Although i like the way it is'. This far of the modeling process is very simple to do that. It will be nice to have 2 similar, but still unique models. The sash however is a diferent matter. This model doesn't have enough verts in that area in order to emulate the double sash robe Jedi use in movies. I can make an effort out of the other jedi robe model (Nemo's) as soon as i complete this. Master svosh just sent me a message advising about the sizing and tex problems. I'll look into that to release it. Xavier2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Originally posted by Xavier2 If, by squaring off you mean "closing" the "skirt", puting the left and right edges togheter in the midlle, it's possible. Although i like the way it is'. This far of the modeling process is very simple to do that. It will be nice to have 2 similar, but still unique models. The sash however is a diferent matter. This model doesn't have enough verts in that area in order to emulate the double sash robe Jedi use in movies. I can make an effort out of the other jedi robe model (Nemo's) as soon as i complete this. Master svosh just sent me a message advising about the sizing and tex problems. I'll look into that to release it. Xavier2 Actually, no. You had referred to the drape on the back of the robe as the "skirt" in an earlier post and I was trying to keep the vernacular consistent. PS: Excellent work thus far!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 10, 2004 Author Share Posted October 10, 2004 Originally posted by Achilles Actually, no. You had referred to the drape on the back of the robe as the "skirt" in an earlier post and I was trying to keep the vernacular consistent. PS: Excellent work thus far!!! I used the word "skirt" cuz i don't really know the english words for clothes parts much. The dictionary is my friend but mine doesn't have a very good range of vocabulary. So what you mean then? You want the back of the robe "skirt" (again short vocabulary, sorry:rolleyes:) more opened like in the front, shorter, wider? Thanks for the words of encouragement Achiles. You were a true inspiration since the early days. BTW. Are you interested in taking part of this overall ideas/project. PM me if you can spare the time. Greetings:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Originally posted by Xavier2 I used the word "skirt" cuz i don't really know the english words for clothes parts much. The dictionary is my friend but mine doesn't have a very good range of vocabulary. So what you mean then? You want the back of the robe "skirt" (again short vocabulary, sorry:rolleyes:) more opened like in the front, shorter, wider? Thanks for the words of encouragement Achiles. You were a true inspiration since the early days. BTW. Are you interested in taking part of this overall ideas/project. PM me if you can spare the time. Greetings:) "skirt" works fine for me. I suppose the closest thing it resembles IRL would be tails on a tuxedo, but I'm not interested in splitting hairs if you aren't The reason that I had asked is because the Jedi robes in the movie don't have "skirts", they're sqared off, much like what you have done with the front. Not so much the split as the shorter, again with the intention of making it plum with the new front. As for your invitation, consider the PM sent. I would love to take part in this. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 10, 2004 Author Share Posted October 10, 2004 Originally posted by Achilles "skirt" works fine for me. I suppose the closest thing it resembles IRL would be tails on a tuxedo, but I'm not interested in splitting hairs if you aren't The reason that I had asked is because the Jedi robes in the movie don't have "skirts", they're sqared off, much like what you have done with the front. Not so much the split as the shorter, again with the intention of making it plum with the new front. As for your invitation, consider the PM sent. I would love to take part in this. Thanks! You're absolutely right. I'll work o that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 NEW UPDATE: Thanks to svosh, who kindly unwraped the UV map of Prime's movie robe texture for me, now the Robe is ready. See here: I ask you for some feedback, before i move on to make a episode I and II texture of this Obi-Wan robe (Prime's remarkable job relates to episode III). Which of these two robe models is the best, the one with the closed "skirt" or the one with the opened "skirt"? Also, do you think i should make the sleeve wider and a bit longer, covering the wrist or is it ok the way it is? Looking forward for yours reply:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 first of all, top notch stuff. excellent work. second, sleeves long and 'skirt' closed. fits the movies better this way. looking forward to anakin's robes from epII!!! *hint hint* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Xavier2, I have to say that I prefer the first one (open) as it is pictured. I would be more partial to the second one (closed) if the sash was either more accentuated or if it was lengthened to be longer than the robe, like in the movies (or both ). I have to say that I'm very impressed thus far. BTW, has any additional thought been given to squaring off the back? EDIT:^^^^ on closer inspection, it looks like you may have already put a lot of hard work into that, although we can't see it from those screenies. Can't wait to see your finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 ^^^^ I prefer the first one (the open flaps) as well. And as ol' Darthy Vader says; "Impressive... most impressive" Very nice Xavier2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Achilles Xavier2, BTW, has any additional thought been given to squaring off the back? EDIT:^^^^ on closer inspection, it looks like you may have already put a lot of hard work into that, although we can't see it from those screenies. Can't wait to see your finished product. Yes i did as you sugested, making it as squared off as possible, although some verts linking the leg and the...errr...you know...(dictionary problem:D ) are preventing it to be completly straight. And it is shorter than the front. I guess you're right about the opened skirt. The intention is to impersonate the drapes of the movie robe, unfortunatelly there aren't enough polys in that area to make the skirt and the drapes altogether. Glad you're appreciating so far:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by stingerhs first of all, top notch stuff. excellent work. second, sleeves long and 'skirt' closed. fits the movies better this way. looking forward to anakin's robes from epII!!! *hint hint* In order to please everyone i kept the skirt opened, but made long and wider sleeves. BTW, Stingers the model has been set to fit Prime's movie style robes, so here it is my model with his Anakin Skywalker robe skin. I'm pretty much pleased with the modeling results. Now... to Photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_ToMeR Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 That's great!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seon Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Well first of all I have to say youve done great job!!! I had uninstalled kotor from my pc, and your robes made me install it again. Some propositions: 1) Make both types: open and closed in the front 2) instead of making the back of the robes shorter, make the front longer, but make it as a separate robe typr coz the one i see you made now is so cool 3) Also the drapes (the cloth pieces that go over the shoulders and reach the waist) could be more distinct if you make in the front and back, some polygons of the "skirt" longer.check this link to see what I mean: http://www.padawansguide.com/obi.shtml 4) Make more colour variations of this style after all the jedi uniform is kinda custom 5) You make my dream come true ..with these robes i mean :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Xavier2 In order to please everyone i kept the skirt opened, but made long and wider sleeves. BTW, Stingers the model has been set to fit Prime's movie style robes, so here it is my model with his Anakin Skywalker robe skin. I'm pretty much pleased with the modeling results. Now... to Photoshop. sweetness. and, the anakin robes now look exactly like the movies. i wish you the best of luck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Xavier2 Personally, I like the closed better, because I feel it is a closer representation of the robes in the movies. But that is just me i guess. Also Xavier2, did you want me to update my skins for the new model? It seems you have done a fair bit aleady, but if you want I can take a stab at them. For example, I could straighten out the front to make them look a bit more like the tabards come straight down in the front. Not to mention I have been meaning to improve the colouring of some of the movie robes. Anakin's in particular. Also, I have improved (IMO anyway) the back of some of the robes from the original released versions (old on left, new on right): If you want I could use those to update the skin for this model. Let me know. In any event, your model looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Prime Also Xavier2, did you want me to update my skins for the new model? It seems you have done a fair bit aleady, but if you want I can take a stab at them. For example, I could straighten out the front to make them look a bit more like the tabards come straight down in the front. Also, I have improved (IMO anyway) the back of some of the robes from the original released versions. If you want I could use those to update the skin for this model. Let me know. Sure i would love it. I just finished a small change to the model and the UV map to fit your textures better. But i would gladly send you the files, so you could update them. And thanks to svosh, who teached me a techinique to place the UV map in the texture file as a layer, the updating job is gonna be much easier. PM me your e-mail and i'll do it right away:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I agree that the closed would look better with updated tabards. This is so exciting! Great work guys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Achilles I agree that the closed would look better with updated tabards. This is so exciting! Great work guys!! Ops!!! my poor vocabulary problem again. What's a tabard? BTW, look here my last change to fit Prime's texture: I tried Achiles sugestion inserting a sash from another robe model, but the game crashes. The other robe models aren't interesting enough to make a cool jedi robe. You know that yellow robe model with a sash doesn't even have a skirt? It looks like it, but it's a texture and shader trick. That said i'm gonna make both closed and opened versions and live up to personal taste:). I'm having so much fun in this community that it's no trouble at all. . :) One warn though. It can't be completely closed. All i can do is to make the edges closer from each other. While in combat position the skirt still gonna open. And Achiles, i still want that modding help to release this!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Xavier2 Ops!!! my poor vocabulary problem again. What's a tabard? A tabard is the garment that I had erroneously referred to as a sash because I couldn't remember what a tabard was called Originally posted by Xavier2 I tried Achiles sugestion inserting a sash from another robe model, but the game crashes. I said what? Originally posted by Xavier2 One warn though. It can't be completely closed. All i can do is to make the edges closer from each other. While in combat position the skirt still gonna open. That's actually good news. I think it will look more realistic that way. @Prime: Will you be making female robe skins this time also or just male? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Achilles A I said what? Pardon me. In a previous post you mentioned that the skirt along with a sash/tabard would be more faithful. I took it as an encouragement/sugestion to move in faithfully direction, though you never said exactly what i should do. I just thought of a possible way to accomplish it and it didn't work, not by any mislead, but because of Kotor engine:D Hope i have clarified any misunderstanding:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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