Admiral Vostok Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 That would be because I'm fed up to the back teeth with Theories about Maul and Grevious and Purist Rehtoric so I'm staying off that subject.Okay... usually when people claim there are flaws in a theory they are quick to point them out... It's entirley possible for that to happen though The geonosians seem to have low or no morals and would have no qualm with Genetic Manipulating to create a new caste.A new caste is one thing, this is a totally new species that looks nothing like existing Geonosians. Unless in making this new caste the Geonosians totally did away with anything that identifies the creature as being part of the Geonosian race, then I don't buy it. Another thing I thought was interesting in the trailer is a ship that appears very much like the Dreadnaughts from EU. If it is indeed a Dreadnaught, Lucas has once again gone against EU by having the Dreadnaught being used by the Confederacy instead of the Empire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Eh you admited earlier that they looked like they were Geonosians riding some sort of animal. It's entirley possible though the only differnces I could see from the Trailer was the fact that they had something like 8 legs or was it 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairb Notneb Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Originally posted by FroZticles That is palpy in your avatar? Yes it is. Aint it awesome? Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Pfff! Chicks>Sith Sith Chicks>Chicks and/or Sith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Eh you admited earlier that they looked like they were Geonosians riding some sort of animal.No I didn't, I said it was possible Geonosians were riding them in response to Luke's post. I never said it looked like Geonosians riding them at all; you can't make out who is riding them. It's entirley possible though the only differnces I could see from the Trailer was the fact that they had something like 8 legs or was it 6?They had 6. I won't say it's impossible they are a Geonosian caste, just highly unlikely since they bear no resemblence whatsoever to any Geonosians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Some people have said the same concerning early Humans and Modern Humans It's entirley possible that in order to give them an advantage at their task they had to do more than a little tweaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Some people have said the same concerning early Humans and Modern HumansBut early humans and modern humans still had the same number of limbs as each other! And modern humans aren't ten times the size of early humans! It's entirley possible that in order to give them an advantage at their task they had to do more than a little tweaking. Possible yet as I said extremely unlikely. By the way, what is it exactly that makes you think these things are related to Geonosians at all considering they share no common characteristics? Going on the same info you could argue the Acklay is a caste of Geonosian - it's about as different from Geonosians as these things are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Originally posted by Nairb Notneb Sith Chicks>Chicks and/or Sith What? Palpy is a chick now? *shudder* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Nairb come here I need to hit you over the head with a stick for thinking Palpatine is hot and a Chick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 The things that the Geos are riding sound mechanical. I was unsure that is palpy since the pic looks very different and he is missing some teeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 I at first bthought they were mechanical but then they seemed furry they could be mechanical but then they could be ridden by Geonosians since They look to be the workhorses of the Confederacy. If the Geonosians are in EP 3 it'll definetly Dispell Vostok's argument against them being with the Confederacy. I agree froz that definetly didn't look like Palpy at all. This could however give weight to hat the EU says about him eventually having to clone himself because his body kept rotting away through excessive dark side use. Also for the Forum game could peeps wait an extra half hour since I have a Training course to go to but i'll be back for Half past seven at the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 If the Geonosians are in EP 3 it'll definetly Dispell Vostok's argument against them being with the Confederacy.No it won't. Allow me to explain my reasoning again since you still don't seem to understand it. Please take the time to read it so you do not make any further misunderstandings about my argument. The Confederacy and the Confederacy Army are two different entities, in the same way the Republic is not exactly the same as the Army of the Republic. In the case of the Republic, it is thousands of planets, each with their own internal governments, represented by Senators in the Galactic Senate. The Republic Army is separate from this and consists of Clone Troopers and Jedi Knights. Following a similar model, the Confederacy is also made up of thousands of planets, each with their own internal governments, but their central governing body is unclear (although it is controlled by Dooku and the Commerce Guilds). The Confederacy Army is separate from that, and consists of Battle Droids, Super Battle Droids, etc. The Geonosians are a part of the Confederacy but do not contribute Geonosian Warriors or Pilots to the Confederacy Army. Similarly, the Aqualish and Quarren are also part of the Confederacy, but do not contribute any troops to the Confederacy Army. The Geonosians were involved in the fighting on their homeworld because it was their homeworld, and no other reason. For a direct parallel, we should look at the Wookiees in Episode 3: they have their own armed forces (like the Geonosians) who fight to protect their homeworld from invasion (like the Geonosians) but do not contribute Wookiee warriors to the Grand Army of the Republic (like the Geonosians do not contribute to the Confederacy Army). For another (albeit weaker) parallel, we can look to the Naboo. Both the Naboo and the Gungans have their own defence force (which may or may not be combined after the Battle of Naboo) which has defended their homeworld from invasion. But the Grand Army of the Republic does not see Naboo or Gungans amongst it's ranks. I hope this has been educational for you Viceroy, and that hopefully you understand my argument now rather than incorrectly labelling it as xenophobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Vostok you can't prove that they didn't contribute after Geonosis. I said they were more than likely the WORKHORSES the ones who built the weapons for the Confederacy. If those things patrolling on Mustafar are Geonosians either a certain caste or on a mount then I'd say they are Militarily Contributing since Patrolling is certainly military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Actually you were arguing the inclusion of the Geonosian Fighter, and indeed the Geonosian units as a whole to be included in the Confederacy in the next Star Wars RTS. If you are correct about them being Geonosians on the riding beasts, then that still doesn't mean the Geonosians are part of the Army. Planetary defense is a job for the local populace, or the colonials in the case of Mustafar. Again I point to the Wookiees defending their homeworld. But Geonosians would not fight alongside droids in the Confederacy Army on battlefields across the galaxy. For example in the battle above Coruscant we see in the teaser, there are no Geonosian Fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairb Notneb Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad What? Palpy is a chick now? *shudder* You misunderstood. I meant that Sith Chicks are way hot!! They are better than regular Sith and they are better than regular chicks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Uh well, to help people to not misinterpret anything, you should really not derail from the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Well you really can't base your theory on a 1 minute teaser. Also comparing Wookiees, Naboo and Gungans to the Confederacy really doesn't flow. The Republic had no army so why would Naboo the peaceful planet give there small army to the Republic. Actually the Republic army is more Non-Republic then the Confederacy army is from the Confederacy at least Confed builds its own weapons. The Confederacy is losing the Clone Wars they must bring all there allies together to survive. Well in the micro series Geonosians did fight along side with the Confederacy army. I know its EU but all your assumptions are also EU. Saying the Confederacy army isn't apart of the Confederacy is like saying the USA is not apart of the US army. If we do see the Geonosians fighting with the Confederacy away from Geonosis your theory as Viceroy said would be diminished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Thank You Froz. Also if some people look at information about one of the ships in the Trailer it is dubbed as the "GEONOSIAN Cruiser" it could be frigate I'm not to sure but definetly GEONOSIAN. Not at all Vostok would the colonists patrol a planet during a war it's a military force. Also Vostok the Confederacy needs a True Anti Jedi Unit and they already have one from the Movies ala Geonosian Warrior. They also need a good siege weapon ala Sonic Cannon they're also gonna need more than one air unit which could be the Geonosian Fighter and this Tri-Droid Fighter that I'm starting to hear so much about in terms of EP 3 though the only Picture I've seen of it makes it look like it's got a miniture TF Batleship Core with a pair of wings in Triangular shape. I'm not too sure that the wookies are Fighting on Kashykk There's snow and they're also fighting on the ground and It's common Knowledge that It doesn't snow very Often on Kashykk and also that being on solid ground on Kashykk is hazardous to health. I think it's more likely to be Alaris Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Well just wait until the movie, hopefully then my theory will be proven correct. I could be wrong, of course, but I'm just taking a logical extension from other models we've seen in the movies. To think that the Geonosians would fight themselves rather than sending the cheaper, expendable, far superior droids that they build for a living seems ludicrous to me. "Here's a great idea... we're a race whose primary source of income comes from our droid building. Let's greatly reduce our profits by offering ourselves as fighters when we can't be trained, recovered or built as effectively as our own product." Froz, I might point out that none of my theories are based on EU. Wookiees are a part of the Republic as we see them in the Senate in The Phantom Menace, but there aren't any Wookiee troopers fighting alongside the Clones in other parts of the galaxy than Kashyyyk. Viceroy, it is Kashyyyk as George Lucas has said so. Alaris Prime indeed... once again EU is clouding your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairb Notneb Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 It is Kashyyyk because I believe it is listed as one of the locations in ROTS on the official website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 It is supposed to be Kashyyyk. Though I can't find where it's listed: http://www.starwars.com/databank/appearance/ep3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Well the from the small clip of the Wookiees we got in the trailer they could very well be fighting the Clones for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Nah it can't be. They would be losing and not cheering after a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Actually you can see in the background behind them two vehicles that are certainly Clone vehicles in that they're clearly a cross between the AT-TE and the AT-AT. So if they were fighting Clones they wouldn't be cheering when there's two Clone vehicles behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Vostok those vehicles are Called Juggernauts. If you check concept art for EP 3 on the site it gives hints. Also my vast knowledge of EU which while it is vast but nowhere near complete I knew before hand that the Juggernaut would be making an apperance. Where do you think they got the idea of the Rebel Assault mech from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Well, the rebel assault mech is indeed called the juggernaut. EDIT: Watched it again. If the Rebel Assault mech is the Juggernaut, then the one in the trailer isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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