Empire at War

[lukeiamyourdad]

Now now, I know about pimping for another forum but I assure the mods and admin, I'm not.

 

http://www.echonetwork.net/vb/showthread.php?p=50336#post50336

 

While I was over there, leXX posted this.

 

It could very well be true

 

Our UK members could get that magazine for us when it comes out

[Fishflesh]

acording to that cover it is in the clasic univers + its ground and space

 

and not episode 3... thats good news for me

[DK_Viceroy]

COnsider your wish granted luke I'll do it and post up screenies.

 

Now if it had been windu that had asked I wouldn't have done so.

[FroZticles]

If its only going to be Rebelos vs Empire all our debates on confed and republic were all for nothing

[lukeiamyourdad]

Well, we can't say that yet you know. RTS these days usually have more then 2 civs are their replayability is greatly hampered.

 

Remember also that for now, the cover means absolutely nothing. It could very be just to show that's it's Star Wars. We'll have to wait for the articles inside the magazine to have any sort of solid info.

[Darth Windu]

As for the new game, I find it extremely unlikely that it will be confined to just the OT because

1. It limits the replay value by having two sides instead of four

 

2. The Clone Wars are a huge part of the SW timeline so to exclude them would be extremely odd

 

3. The Prequel Trilogy appeal to the younger generation more than the OT does. Argue all you want about which is better, the PT appeals more to those who are young

 

4. Why would LA or Petroglyph leak anything at this point? I doubt the thing is anywhere near beta and so they wouldn't want to show anyone yet so when they do, people will be blown away (at least, thats the idea)

 

5. Why would Viceroy need to post screenshots? Is this was legit, Gamespot, IGN, Gamespy etc would be all over it, and they arent

 

Basically, this is either wishful thinking or a hoax. In addition, "Empire at War"? They couldnt think of anything better than "Empire at War"???

[lukeiamyourdad]

1. True

 

2. True

 

3. And the average gamer is 30. You are irrelevant.

 

4. Doesn't have to be late in development in order to release a screenshot or anything. They could announce it along with maybe a screenie of what it's going to look like.

 

5. Technically, the info would be released in February so all of them don't have the info yet. Again, your reasoning is flawed here.

 

6. I do not believe this is a hoax. leXX has never posted hoaxes, do not undermine her credibility.

 

7. Well, try to find a better title. Oh yes, Rise of Star Wars. That sounds good

[DK_Viceroy]

I think that the Star Wars RTS might actually be further along then we think then.

 

I'll post up the entire 6 page spread when I get the mag and keep an eye out for any more UK mags that might have info and i'll buy them too.

[Darth Windu]

luke-

3. Actually it's 20-something. I don't remember the exact age but it's not 30. Regardless, for future purchases and whatnot, the youth of today are tomorrow's 30-year olds.

 

4. But then why leak it to a single UK magazine when they could put it in the Insider, or on the Petroglyph or Lucasarts websites, or have a Hyperspace exclusive? It simply doesnt add up

 

5. But again, why to only a single UK mag? If they were going to distribute even alpha screenshots, i'm sure they could do better

 

6. I didn't say this 'LeXX' was the hoaxer, just that it was a hoax. As for her credibility, I dont know her, hence i do not know if she is credible or not

 

7. Come on luke, you seriously think 'Empire at War' is the best that Lucasarts and/or Petroglyph could come up with? If so, i'm already concerned about the quality of the game

 

Actually, on this subject, i had a thought where this could be legit, although issues 4 and 5 persist. Anyway, it could simply be that only the Empire and Rebellion have had any work on them, and the magazine came up with the line 'Empire at War' due to a lack of anything official and the lack of any non-OT shots. Just an idea.

[lukeiamyourdad]

3. Yes future...in one year...maybe two...sure future purchases...you see too far. Besides: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-05-12-gamer-demographics_x.htm

 

4. Because they paid for the info? It makes no sense to make it a Hyperspace exclusive since this game will possibly be released after ep 3(wait no, it will be release after.)

 

5. Paid for info.

 

6. And I said she wouldn't post a hoax. She knows better then that. If something iisn't real, she wouldnn't think about posting it.

 

7. I actually don't hate the title. It sounds ok. It's simple without sinking into cheesyness.

 

8. A possibility.

[DK_Viceroy]

Why would they do a hyperspace exclusive anyway?

 

I'm not too sure if they did that for some of the other SW games that LA farmed out.

[Sithmaster_821]

To windu's original points:

 

1.Wait, so does that me you've finally resigned to the fatc that 12+ civs is not a good idea (sorry I've been gone a while and been uninterested for even longer)

 

2. Yessir

 

3. The average age for an RTS gamer is higher than that of the average gamer

 

4. Umm...this is a magazine cover, not a leak. ES is doing the same **** for AoE3.

 

5. Gamespot et al have no right to the information because it hasnt been published. Also they're kinda busy with their awards shows:rolleyes:

 

6. This will not only be about the OT. Count the number of Naboo/Gungans/TF you see on your SWGB front and get back to me. ATATs=universally recognized as SW icons.

 

 

Good find BTW Luke

[DK_Viceroy]

I Just noticed how those Star Destroyers bear quite a resemblance to Victory Class Star Destroyers opposed to any we've seen in the movies since I think everyone can attest none of the Imperial class both 1 and 2 that we see in the movies have towers in between the Sheild towers or Protrusions behind a much farther forward Hangar.

 

Those Snow Speeders also look like they may be models from the game as do most of the things on the cover.

[Sithmaster_821]

One can only hope

[Darth Windu]

Sith-

1. I was never interested in 12+ civs, that was Viceroy, not me. The most I wanted was eight I think which I now have down to five.

 

4. True, but then as I said to luke, why freely give info to just a single UK-based mag? Surely they would have better coverage and get more for the story from a US mag.

 

5. Of course they have a right to it, and regardless of if it has been published or not, obviously the mag has (or thinks it has) the info already.

 

6. Not the point. On the mag cover, it shows only the Empire and Rebellion with a title of 'Empire at War'. To me, that strongly points toward only OT, a hoax, or simply a lack of info from the mag.

 

 

luke-

6. She also said that

Empire At War will be set during the classic Star Wars period, predominantly centring around the events of Epidode IV: A New Hope, though there will be a certain amount of crossover from Episode III.

Now, with six films to take material from, why would they confine themselves to a single 30-year old film? It simply doesnt add up.

[lukeiamyourdad]

Maybe they're trying to get two civs right first. This information is not 100% accurate yet, it is a good source but one can hope the opposite.

 

Oh and by the way, Jedi Outcast and Academy were popular without the need to add Clone Troopers and Droidekas Get over it kid. I know you kids like CGI and cool special effects but some of us actually do judge a movie by its effect on our heart and souls.

[Sithmaster_821]

1. Oops, sorry, they all just blurred in my head:o

 

4. Its called publicity, the less you give, the more you make

 

5. No, they cannot print on any information if another source has the exclusive. Well, aside from saying that "such and such" magazine has the exclusive, which is kinda embarassing. Dont worry, come Feb, they'll jump on it like rabid dogs and rejurgitate it with the usual errors and Blizzard bias (the last one is Gamespot only)

 

6. Empire at war=catchy phrase to sell magazine, its way too similar to Galaxies to even be considered

 

Oh, and the originals were better. 30 years old or not, Lucas did something right in them that he doesnt really know now.

[DK_Viceroy]

WIndu it's not a hoax why would a respectable gaming mag like PCZone do something like that?

 

PCZone has had quite a few exclusives in the past and they've always done an excellent job of presenting it how about you listen to someone that used to be a regular reader of it until the price went a little out of my range for a while.

[Sithmaster_821]

Its PC Zone not PC Gamer.

[DK_Viceroy]

I used to get both anyway I still get PCZone however Havem't read this month's though yet.

 

 

EDIT: This will include Clone Wars stuff while eyeing the cover I just noticed slightly contorted SPHAATS above the white text in the bottom corner but below the At-At head.

[Guest DarthMaulUK]

In all honesty -PC Zone are probably the WORST magazine for reviews - i know!

 

Example.

We promise large advertising, demos, or some sort of give aways and that guarantees at least and extra 10-15% on a review.

 

Take a look at Battle for Middle Earth. Probably the worst RTS in history when you consider the new benchmark set by Rome:Total war and Dawn Of War.

 

However, they gave it 91% - and judging by the EXCLUSIVE review, havent even seen the final code, to give it the score. Did you also notice the double page advert?

 

PC gamer are almost as bad.

 

Now, im not here to debate why BFME is such a poor game, thats for the other forum, but just to give you an idea NOT to trust magazine reviews

 

DMUK

[FroZticles]

I think most reviews gave BFME great reviews so you cannot single out just one magazine when gaming sites also gave them high praise. I quite like the game I guess its just your opinion that you dislike it so I guess its personal choice but 1000 reviews can't all be wrong......

[Darth Windu]

...incidently, I went to EB today (start of post-Christmas sales) - they had 'Rome: Total War' and 'Dawn of War' each for 50% off, and yet there was no discount on the original KotOR

[Guest DarthMaulUK]

Originally posted by FroZticles

I think most reviews gave BFME great reviews so you cannot single out just one magazine when gaming sites also gave them high praise. I quite like the game I guess its just your opinion that you dislike it so I guess its personal choice but 1000 reviews can't all be wrong......

 

If you visit PC gamer - it has the most accurate review of BFME - although the overall score of 73% was too generous. Like I said, Publishers 'pay' for good reviews.

 

DMUK

[lukeiamyourdad]

Uh I like the game too. Personnally, I would've given it an 8/10. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's the "worst" RTS in history. Hell, Armies of Exigo sucked and it was released after Dawn of War and Rome:Total War.

BFME>Armies of Exigo

 

Besides, we could say it is the worst only if it was developped after both those games but they were done at about the same time.