Harker Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Ok, started a new game and started noticing some wierd things with T3: 1) I would crash everytime I threw a Sonic nade 2) after he is taken out by the hk-50 on peragus, he seems to disappear 3) the camera that USUALLY shows him in the fuel tunnel thing, shows nothing. 4) I can't click on him when I finally get to him , because he isn't there... yet Atton sees him. 5) So after you clear your way up the ramp and lower the forcefields... you have to fight off some dorids. THEN, you try to take turbolift to administration... I'm crashing out. 6) Since I couldn't click on him, I could never add him to my party, thus the reason for the crashing methinks. 7) when I crash out, i go to the main menu... so its not a complete crash. I looked at this in the KSE under NPCs and noticed where he should be, there was "Bad_Strng Ref" Anything I clicked on and tried to change (like trying to "make" him) would generate all kinds of errors. Needless to say, I can't move forward in the game. I do have RH's exile pack and various other armor and weapon skins in my overide... but nothing else that I think would be the cause of conflicting with T3. I have the itching suspicion that KSE is either the cause, or might be the tool used to fix this "bug." Any ideas??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Yeah... something crazy is happening. I just went to view older games with the KSE and was clicking on NPCs. I clicked on Kreia and Visas and got a buch of string errors. I was able to modify influence and alignment on all the NPCs and the changes DID commit and SUCCEED... But when I loaded that saved game, ALL my party members were gone from my selection screen. And, at this point in the game, I had them ALL. Wacky stuff. For the record, I hadn't tweaked T3 in the above reply. He's not even a party member before the point mentioned in the above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Something similar also happened to me...my party members arent visible, they arent with me, and i cant select them to add, cause there are no portraits. also, now i cant load any other levels...and on top of my name in the party selection screen it says "i am broken, so very broken" or something. wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 These bugs are not related to KSE: they are bugs that are in the game. If you need technical assistance or find bugs in the game, please post in the Work Bench forum. Otherwise, this thread is just getting off-topic. Any further posts dicussing general game issues in this thread will be deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Originally posted by Harker I have the itching suspicion that KSE is either the cause, or might be the tool used to fix this "bug." Originally posted by Harker For the record, I hadn't tweaked T3 in the above reply. He's not even a party member before the point mentioned in the above post. Well if you haven't tweaked the game you're having problems with then KSE is not to blame. (Edit: Thanks Darth333) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Darth333, I respect your words, but how can this NOT be related to the KSE. As I have said, I've gone through the entire game once already- without issue. Now that I've used KSE, as well as some other skins and mods, how can it not be something that KSE might be able to answer? I will look at the work bench forums... but I think the problem stems from something "added" to the game, or a combination of several things added. @tk, sir- don't get my wrong, I love the tool. I hadn't touched T3 in the KSE, but I did OPEN other party members with another save game and KSE gave me tons of errors and basically corrupted the save game, eliminating my entire party. I'm not goint on the attack, I'm just wondering if someone has looked into the possibility that KSE or KSE combined with other mods is fubaring something small that snowballs into something big. That's all. I'm not doubting the possibility that the first time I played this game (unmodded/cheated) I had zero defects entirely; then suddenly, for my second time through I put in some mods, skins, and the KSE to tweak out the goodness... I rolled snake eyes and crapped out. Just a crazy coincidence if that's the case... have others had this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I splitted up the KSE thread. Can you give us an exact list of all the mods you are using as well as all the changes you made with KSE? As for the whole party disappearing, this happened to me twice without any mods installed. There are also numerous people who reported the bugs you mention and who did not have any mods installed or who didn't used KSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 If you are getting errors when you first look at a savegame with KSE, then the problem is with the game. KSE doesn't modify the files at all until you click Commit Changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Good to know Tk102 and entirely logical. @darth333, RedHawke's Exile Items Segan Wyndh Armor by ChAiNz v1 Cosmetic edit by T7nowhere (alien skin changes) Malignouss robes Bao_Maul Svosh's HK-47 (just the skin targa, no savy enough to delve into 2da's...yet.) New Atton Dark Face - Darth ToMeR Dark Visas New Male head - Kampher and various saber color changes so you can see basically skins and texture changes more than anything (save for the hefty mod from RedHawke) Changes I made to a newly started game were: character stats, feats, credits, items Nothing else was altered. I did LOOK through the settings of the other things like boleans and such... but no changes. But if what tk is right and it is the game making these errors pop up in KSE... I'm getting the feeling that a reinstall is in my future ( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Originally posted by Harker Segan Wyndh Armor by ChAiNz v1 so you can see basically skins and texture changes more than anything (save for the hefty mod from RedHawke) Out of curiosity, did you perchance mean v2 (the one Darkkender ported over, and made infinitely better )? Unless you've done some merging and editing, my v1 Segan Wyndh was a KotOR mod. If you're using the baseitems.2da that was included in that mod...that could be a major problem... possibly the source... I'd double-check just in case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Hehe... I did mean v2... I'm definitely using the TSL ones. I copied and pasted that line from one of the two readme's in the folder. The folder of course, says TSL on it. The other readme (expanded) has the correct version listed. Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 Update! Last night, I did a reinstall of the game, and installed all the same mods except Segan Armor. Modifying in KSE seemed flawless, even though I did get some weird string errors. But the changes saved and appeared fine in the game. T3 was where he was supposed to be and I left on in Telos. So, not saying Segan Armor is the cause... because more than likely it's the fact that I reinstalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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