stefanlinden Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I have found a blooper in the SW film 'a new hope'. At some moment (when Luke and the others are in the trashcompactor) you see a few stormtroopers walking. If you watch closely one of the stormtroopers bashes his head into a door frame! (talking about door clearance ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 I went years without ever noticing this, but a few years ago, some one told me about it. I can't believe how easy it is to miss! It is even so loud. Suffice it to say, I've noticed every time since. (and its very funny) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanlinden Posted April 9, 2005 Author Share Posted April 9, 2005 I really wonder why they did'nt redo that scene or so. Because it is'nt something to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Yeah, I kind of wondered the same thing. I do like how they tied it in with Jang bumping his head in AOTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Technically in the DVD, it's not a blooper but more of a way George has tied the Stormtroopers into Jango, with his bumping his head on the Slave I door. Notice that George put in a nice bump sound in ANH that wasn't there before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Strange, I never remember there being a bump sound. If you listen to the AotC commentary, George explains the Jango bump was for the audience to identify him as the man behind the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanlinden Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 I've also heard the bumping sound. But i think it's more quiet on the special edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 The bumping in ANH was never intentional. Just an extra forgetting to duck. But with the new movies out it's been turned into a subtle connection to Jango. The scene in AotC is very much intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanlinden Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 I have found a Starwars blooper guide on the internet. I don't want to make a advertisement of this, so it's ok to delete it. But I hope not! but here's the url: http://www.egosystem.com/starwars/bloopers.htm. Maybe we can talk about bloopers or so. Bya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 As others have stated, the hand bonk IS a blooper. George decided to play off this well known gag by, rather than editing it out, throwing in an "explanation" of why it's there and having Jango bump his head in AOTC as an homage. So it's now "canon." Way to cover, George! (semi-humorus, but now official) He added the "bonk" sound in the 2004 DVD Edition. It was never there before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Do you mean that the sound was changed, or that a sound was put in? Because there is definitely a sound in the 1995 VHS version, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 It's been awhile since I saw those movies on the VHs, but you sure the sound you hear isn't from the mic just before the the commander starts to talk, and just coincides with the exact same moment as the guy bumps his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 It's possible, but it happens right when he hits his head, and sounds like a person hitting his head to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 The sound has been there, but it's never been as obvious as it is in the DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanlinden Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 There is a sound, and you can hear it just when he hits his head. So it must be from him. http://www.rsmeding.promanex.net/stefan/stormbumper.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 That stormtrooper has to be the most famous extra ever!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Originally posted by InsaneSith The sound has been there, but it's never been as obvious as it is in the DVD. Most of the sound in ANH was redubbed during production (something like 90% I forget the exact figure but it's huge). Anthony Daniel's costume and the Stormtroopers were all super noisy, clankety clank like a pile of junk when they moved. It ruined many attempts at saying lines clearly. Plus the Stormtroopers, Threepio, etc anyone with a helmet or mask on would have muffled lines, so they redubbed those (and gave them their mechanical/static radio sounds). Vader's voice was redubbed, lines were redubbed, sound effects added by Foley Artists, etc. Heck even Aunt Beru's lines were redubbed! Since the head bonk was an unintended gaffe, they wouldn't have a reason to add a sound to it. It's just that it's become so famous, that Lucas decided to "get in on the fun" and add the bonk sound in 2004. Trust me on this one... I remember rewinding and watching the scene on my 1997 SE VHS tapes and it was silent when his head hits. On the DVD, you suddenly get the little "bonk." Besides, doesn't it sound sort of like the heavy helmet hitting metal? I doubt the prop door was really metal, so if it was always there, it would have been intentional from the start, and thus not a gaffe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Originally posted by Kurgan Besides, doesn't it sound sort of like the heavy helmet hitting metal? I doubt the prop door was really metal, so if it was always there, it would have been intentional from the start, and thus not a gaffe! Unless it was unintentional when they shot the scene, but they noticed it when adding sound, and decided to just throw a sound in. I'm not 100% sure that there is a sound for him hitting his head, but it is definitely not silent when he hits head. Trust me on this one... I remember when I first saw him hit his head on my 1995 VHS version, and noticed the noise. I also remember talking to a few friends about the noise, and it was all years before the DVD came out. It is possible that its just the mic, like Jan said, but it is not silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanlinden Posted April 16, 2005 Author Share Posted April 16, 2005 I did not know they redubbed nearly everything! (you really CAN learn of a forum:D ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin Unless it was unintentional when they shot the scene, but they noticed it when adding sound, and decided to just throw a sound in. I'm not 100% sure that there is a sound for him hitting his head, but it is definitely not silent when he hits head. Trust me on this one... I remember when I first saw him hit his head on my 1995 VHS version, and noticed the noise. I also remember talking to a few friends about the noise, and it was all years before the DVD came out. It is possible that its just the mic, like Jan said, but it is not silent. I'll check out my 1997 edition again when I get a chance, but I am almost 100% that it's not there. Unless you're saying that the 1995 edition HAD IT and it was removed... which would be odd. Anyway, I don't have any early editions, so if you can find and record it, I'd appreciate it! My point is, that Stormtrooper had no lines, and he wasn't wearing a mike. The Stormtroopers were all dubbed in (though some of them might have yelled their muffled lines on set for cues, I don't know). I don't even know if any of the actors wore mikes at all, they would have used boom mikes to catch the lines like most movies (on TV the people wear their mikes, because it's cheaper and frees you up to do more movement). Update: DVDAnswers Star Wars Changes part 1 has the audio clips, but without the video it's hard to say. I don't know if he's using the sounds from the SE or the "original" (1980's VHS/LD release). There is a "clicky" sound in the "original" is that what you're talking about with regards to the "microphone" sound? Because the Troopers do have a radio click whenever they start talking. The 2004 Edition adds a little metallic clang to it that occurs over (but doesn't replace) the previous clicky sound. I'll check it out again if/when I get the time this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 I'll check the old VHS I got with the Original Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanlinden Posted April 18, 2005 Author Share Posted April 18, 2005 when the sound is'nt from the stormtrooper, I then wonder where its from:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 The Stormtroopers did yell their lines during filming. I remember seeing in a few "the making of Star Wars" type documentaries them showing dialogues with Stormtroopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Ok. The troopers yelling their lines (I couldn't remember if they actually showed them doing that or not) would fit in with what else I've heard about the redubbing of ANH. I would think if the shot was ruined by a guy smashing his head into the door and yelping in pain or something, they would have just reshot it. Then again it could have happened to so quietly in the background (and the extra too embarrassed to admit he screwed up, perhaps to an already agitated director) that it was missed until fans pointed it out years later. Or maybe they were just so short on money (the movie DID go over budget) that this was a one take shot, and they just figured it wasn't important enough to mess with... I see it now as Lucas making a nod to the fans with a fan favorite blooper making it "canon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanlinden Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 I think that will be the reason why they did'nt remake the scene. By the way. Did they have money shortages in other movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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