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K, um... uh... OH! How can a military tactician such as he, be dumb enough to broadcast his diabolical plan over the PA system? (That should get some replies...)

 

He was asleep, and the radio transmits thoughts. He left the button on.

 

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I answered too quickly. He still looks like Mr. Potato head.

 

Your signature makes me think. Japanese songs tend to... not make sense in English. At all. Teen Titans theme does that, too...

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He was asleep, and the radio transmits thoughts. He left the button on.

 

...

 

I answered too quickly. He still looks like Mr. Potato head.

 

Your signature makes me think. Japanese songs tend to... not make sense in English. At all. Teen Titans theme does that, too...

Funny thing, my sig is actually based on a song written in english then translated into japanese as a joke, it was in an episode of South Park called "Fun with Weapons" I found the song and the translation and its just plain screwed up. Translation Available Here

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Well, there's always the easy answer...because Tim wanted them to.

 

But I think that makes things too easy. Also, too snarky. So!

 

Personally, I think that's not something that can be answered definitely without delving more into Loboto's backstory. I mean, all we've really got to work with is that he's a dentist who went nuts, became obsessed with brains, and eventually met up with Oleander to help him take over the world. The more I think about it, the more I realize how much about Loboto we don't know--things that either add up to big gaping plot holes or sequel potential. (I think we all know which one I'm voting for.)

 

I dunno. If I had to explain it, I'd say it'd go something like this: at some point in time, Morry had an assignment that had something to do with the asylum Loboto/Fred/Crispin/etc. were all living/working in. During this mission, he met Loboto--even if only in passing--and found out that he was obsessed with brains (hence his being institutionalized--I know we don't have canon evidence for this (or do we? I don't think so...), but somebody who goes around trying to take people's brains out would probably be locked up, for everyone else's safety if nothing else...). Said meeting stuck in his subconcious.

 

Now, fast forward to when he goes crazy and decides to take over the world. Somehow, he hatches the scheme for the death tanks, and while he's planning this all our realizes he'll need someone who a) knows more about brains than Morry does, specifically their removal and b) he can trust as a partner.

 

Cue him remembering the wacky mental patient he met however long ago. So he goes back to the asylum and offers him a deal: he'll get him out of the asylum (he could probably pull a few strings, being a Psychonaut...or do an "evaluation" that would "prove" Loboto's sanity--think of Dr. Crane in Batman Begins if you want an example of what I'm thinking of..only with less actually driving people insane) and give him brains to play with if he'll help him. Loboto's no fool, so he accepts.

 

Of course, it's only later that Morry finds out the extent of Loboto's obsession, and also what he's capable of--I suspect that if it was Morry's idea to mutate Linda, he had no idea how far Loboto was going to take the suggestion, given the look on his face in the memory vault (it's very Victor Frankenstein, actually. "I made what?"). But he can't very well give Loboto the boot, since he knows too much and probably wouldn't hesitate to tell it in revenge, and he needs his knowledge of brains still.

 

Tada!

 

...At least, that's how I'd do it, if I were writing that backstory. I'm not even sure if all that makes sense--I think I'm coming down with the Swahilian Death Flu or something, so god only knows. But, yeah. The real answer to your question is, we don't know. We can only guess. And hope there'll be some sort of sequel or something that will explain it.

 

This is creepy, as the first half of my long fanfiction that I have been working on (but not showing anybody as when I work on big projects I need to edit it later and just let it all out.) Which is "Oleander meets Loboto." So this is probably why I brought it up.

 

I assumed that it happened a lot quicker though. I assumed that once he met Doctor Loboto a lot of things went into place. We already know that Oleander had some issues and had probably been thinking about doing such things but never bold enough to take it on his own. However since Loboto sems more like a take action kind of guy, and Oleander was emboldend by this.

 

Loboto and Oleander's evil team seemed like it had some problems, as you mentioned. Loboto didn't trust Oleander enough to keep Crispin unguarded, and Oleander was a bit weirded out by Loboto (as you said in the vault). Though when he starts to accept what Loboto is doing and how he's going to get this done, I think Oleander gets used to Loboto's quirks and may even learn about the psychotic side of what he is doing.

 

Crispin always throws a wrench in the whole thing. Sure we can guesstimate at what time Crispin and Loboto became evil geniuses. The reason why it is so hard is because Fred complicates things. I'm not ready to explain it because I really can't, but the whole Waterloo-o thing throws a wrench in this evil genius timeline.

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K, um... uh... OH! How can a military tactician such as he, be dumb enough to broadcast his diabolical plan over the PA system? (That should get some replies...)

 

He did have a sleeping disorder (falling asleep really quick). It's not too far off that he probably snores or talks in his sleep. I wouldn't call that dumb, I call it obsessing over his evil plan.

 

He's not a military tactician either. He faked it all.

 

All he says really is "Blah blah blah." One time I heard him say "Blah blah, bunnies. Blah blah butcher."

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He did have a sleeping disorder (falling asleep really quick). It's not too far off that he probably snores or talks in his sleep. I wouldn't call that dumb, I call it obsessing over his evil plan.

 

He's not a military tactician either. He faked it all.

 

All he says really is "Blah blah blah." One time I heard him say "Blah blah, bunnies. Blah blah butcher."

 

He has a sleeping disorder? Since when?

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Sleep disorder=plot device.

 

How else would you get all of those hints as to what will happen? Maybe he was just sleepy.

 

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Smiley!

What you too lazy too use a smiley.

 

I never got why he had to speak into the radio. Never gave away the plans to me.

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What you too lazy too use a smiley.

 

I never got why he had to speak into the radio. Never gave away the plans to me.

 

Eh, the first time around I got the jist of it. Something about bunnies and eggs... that's what I remember thinking.

 

And, yes. I am too lazy to use a smiley. Besides, those things are overrated.

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True story: first time I heard Morry snoring into the PA system, I thought it was Cruller having a phlem problem. It took me the longest time to figure out that it was actually Oleander (I never stuck around long enough in any given place for him to get to the point of talking about bunnies or anything).

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True story: first time I heard Morry snoring into the PA system, I thought it was Cruller having a phlem problem. It took me the longest time to figure out that it was actually Oleander (I never stuck around long enough in any given place for him to get to the point of talking about bunnies or anything).

 

When he starts talking about them... wooh. It's kind of scary. Especially now that I know what happens. :X

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True story: first time I heard Morry snoring into the PA system, I thought it was Cruller having a phlem problem. It took me the longest time to figure out that it was actually Oleander (I never stuck around long enough in any given place for him to get to the point of talking about bunnies or anything).

 

It doesn't matter how long you stay, I think. It just a matter of luck.

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Sorry for bumping up this inactive thread but there has been some speculation about how he lured Sasha and Milla out and got their brains.

 

Also speculation on how powerful he really is.

 

And did anyone notice how he seemed out of it during the

Last Battle With Sasha and MIlla?

I didn't feel like I was looking at the real Oleander and that I was just staring at him until we actually

got into his brain.

 

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Would he have taken over the world?

 

Well...considering it seems like they only had the prototype of the brain tank at the time (unless they were mass-producing them elsewhere), Loboto was having trouble getting the brains to fight properly, and Raz had already taken back all the brains Loboto and Morry had stolen (and were going to use in the tanks)...I'm going to say no, actually. He'd give it a good shot, and then the rest of the Psychonauts would get together and issue a smackdown.

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