PoiuyWired Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 They are a society and a race. Just because you fight with a group of people doesn't make you one of them. Say you decide to lead an army of pandas. That does not make you, yourself, a panda. Point in case: Xor is not an actually madalorian. He may have fought on their side, but he isn't on himself, strictly speaking, Well, the race part do not stand. Cause technically pandas can be Mandalorians too. So yes, a Mandalore with an army of mostly pandas would be a powerful sight to behold, since pandas are resistant to lightsabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Huh? Ok people, screw the pandas. I'm obviously not reaching any of you. The early Mandalorians were a race. Later, they spread into a society. Originally one, turning into the other. Both, so to speak. It's the same way with the early Sith, as described in KotOR. Was Darth Maul a true sith? No, he was a Zabrak. But he was a sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnakinSolaris Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Now, who/what is Darth Trays talking about when it comes to Mandalorians being gone? I mean, they are still around after 100s of years!!! She doesn't say that, she says that the Mandalorians will die a slow death, i.e. their race will never again achieve their former glories and will never again be strong enough to challenge the Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray_Master Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Shoot guys lol look at the good ol US of A I mean dang I'm a french German Indian....still I'm an American =P I want to know what happened in-between Candy wanting to make them a conquering empire again and Jango Fett joining the Mandy Mercs they seem to have decided to just go Merc in the end lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympus Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Skye is absoloutely correct. And er...because you can't seem to grasp this creative metaphor about the pandas (o.o), it's also like this: Darth Malak followed the teachings of the Sith, but that didn't make him Sith as a species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleDog Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 You know I hate to throw a spanner in your theory here but Mira says she was a slave of the Mandalorians, not actually one. I still think they are more of a species than an ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 Shoot guys lol look at the good ol US of A I mean dang I'm a french German Indian....still I'm an American =P I want to know what happened in-between Candy wanting to make them a conquering empire again and Jango Fett joining the Mandy Mercs they seem to have decided to just go Merc in the end lol. Hmmm... calling a Mandalore with the nickname Candy... Well, I want to know more also... Oh, as for the Mira part... I have to check it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVandar205 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Maybe the Mandalorians just figured itd be easier and safer for their culture to exist if they resort to merc work and being bounty hunters rather than forming huge armies and trying to take over the galaxy, which with the Republic and Sith being what they are is a bit out of their league. They probably didnt want to risk becoming extinct so they thought if they became bounty hunters that would leave at least some of them to carry the culture and traditions on. Maybe if the Mandalorians would actually try to help and work with the Republic instead of fighting against them then maybe they would find that its alot easier to accomplish what they wanna do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadi Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 4) Jango Fett is a Mandalorian. Also the gene seed of CloneTroopers, and many StormTroopers(501st is all JF clones) Yes and no, he was adopted by a Mandalorian but was born to Concord Dawn farmers. From the official Star Wars website: (Jango) .......................... (Boba) Homeworld: ..................... Homeworld: Concord Dawn .................. Kamino Species: ......................... Species: Human ............................ Human Jango, in the Expanded Universe, was the son of Concord Dawn farmers. His parents were murdered and he was orphaned but at the age of ten was found and raised by Journeyman Protector Jaster Mereel who was a Mandalorian. 5) Boba Fett is Mandalorian, and probably got the Mandalorian culture thingy from his dad. Mira does say that Mandalorians took slaves while Canderous (in the first game) said they recruit people, then yes Boba is a Mandalorian just like his father. The official site doesn't have any concrete info on Mandalorians other then a few pages such as on Canderous which lists his species as Human and his affiliation as Mandalorian. I can't recall where I read it (possibly at Dark Horse ), but apparently Mandalorian armor hadn't been made in centuries by the time Jango and Boba came onto the scene. Supposedly, Jango obtained his either from Jaster Mereel or from old caches while Boba obtained his from Jango's old armor. Dark Horse comics does say Boba is a Mandalorian. There was a four part series revolving around Jango which give more info about his childhood. Star Wars: Jango Fett -- Open Seasons #1 (of 4). Jango Fett is the master bounty hunter of his time -- a man feared and respected throughout the galaxy. But he wasn't always a bounty hunter. Once he was a simple farm boy from the Outer Rim. But when his family was murdered by the criminal mercenary band known as the Death Watch, Jango fell in with another group of soldiers, the elite Mandalore Warriors -- who offer him a chance for revenge! Open Seasons offers an in-depth look at one of the most exciting new characters from Episode II. Written by LucasArts' own Haden Blackman (Starfighter -- Crossbones) and illustrated by Ramon F. Bachs (Jedi vs. Sith) Jango Fett -- Open Seasons is one series you won't want to miss! But here's what I think. The true Mandalorians basically died out after the Mandalorian War. It was a slow death (as Kreia said) to the true Mandalorians but eventually they were gone and all that were left were others that took up the titles of Mandalorian. Canderous and the clans were all that were left and while he attempted to keep it together that over the centuries and millenia the true Mandalorians eventually were gone just like the true Sith (the Sith'ari) were gone and all were left were the codes and history for other people to take up and call themselves. So while Boba and Jango were Mandalorians just as Revan was a Sith Lord, they were not really Mandalorian/Sith. Who was it that said (paraphrasing), "Sith is just but a title" (Kreia, right)? That's what I think Mandalorians are by the time we get to Jango and Boba - "Mandalorian is just but a title." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 "affiliation as Mandalorian" so, the word Mandalorian is mostly a culture/affiliation, and not the Taung(sp?) alien from the Big Metropolis Planet. Well, even many Mandalorians who fight in the MW are humans, hack, even Canderous is a Human!!! Anyone have the main species distribution data of the Mandalorians at any time period?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast-Thrasher Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 The one thing I don't get in Kreia's visions into the Mandalorians, She says stuff that will occur in Episode II When Mace Windu kills Jango....but did she mean he would be the last real mandalorian? Because technically his son is one and he dies by falling in a sand whole with a huge monster eating him in Epsidoe VI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadi Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 The one thing I don't get in Kreia's visions into the Mandalorians, She says stuff that will occur in Episode II When Mace Windu kills Jango....but did she mean he would be the last real mandalorian? Because technically his son is one and he dies by falling in a sand whole with a huge monster eating him in Epsidoe VI... From what I've read on various websites, Boba survives (off camera in Dark Empire comics). In the Last of the Jedi series, Boba meets and marries with Kiffar bounty hunter Sintas Vel and they end up having a daughter. In Shadows of the Empire, Boba becomes Mandalore during Yuuzhan Vong War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackel Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Maybe it is just me but I doubt the Mandalorians would let some alien non-Mandalorian slaver scum fight with them unless he was a Mandalorian too, deathdisco. Why not? It happens now adays here on earth you know. Take in Iraq for instance. English troops fight along side American ones. Does this make the English troops Americans? or vice versa? Australian troops fight with both does this make them English and American? Just because he was fighting with them doesn't mean he was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adept Havelock Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 There's a bunch of interesting stuff on Mandalorian's in the new SW Insider mag, for those that want to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 The one thing I don't get in Kreia's visions into the Mandalorians, She says stuff that will occur in Episode II When Mace Windu kills Jango....but did she mean he would be the last real mandalorian? Because technically his son is one and he dies by falling in a sand whole with a huge monster eating him in Epsidoe VI... But official EU says he survives, and eventually becomes Mandalore... Oh, and one of his sea-people goes to become a female bounty hunter, also in Mandalorian armor. Hmmm... who says clones are infertile??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mandalore Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Going back to the race-culture issue, Skye is absolutely right. The first Mandalorians and the some of the Mandalorians that fought in the Mandalorian Wars were true Mandalorians. After many wars and inter-breeding, the true Mandalorian is close to being non-existent. A few tribes may still exist on the planet of Mandalore but in general, the Mandalorians we know and love today, are diluted forms of the original Mandalorian blood. These diluted Mandalorians kept the Mandalorian culture though. The language, the calendar, the religion, the rituals etc. In other words, its like an american who was born and raised in the People's Republic of China. He is going to be ALL Chinese and NONE Chinese at the same time. Get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I think that in ancient times Mandalorians were a species, or at least had some genetic distinction between humans. I guess they are considered to be descended from the Taung guys, but over the millenia various interbreeding between other races who joined the Mandalorian ranks gradually began to cross breed their genetic unique out of existence. By the time of Kotor and the Mandalorian Wars they are virtually the same as humans, who i guess the were the dominant race that were bread into the Mandalorians. I get the impression there are some minor differences between Mandalorians and other humans, but Mandalorian blood was almost thinned out of existence. And the story of Mira, indicates this practice continued to go on until on their culture remaine, but the time of the Prequal era. Oh and hi I'm a new poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mandalore Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I think that in ancient times Mandalorians were a species, or at least had some genetic distinction between humans. I guess they are considered to be descended from the Taung guys, but over the millenia various interbreeding between other races who joined the Mandalorian ranks gradually began to cross breed their genetic unique out of existence. By the time of Kotor and the Mandalorian Wars they are virtually the same as humans, who i guess the were the dominant race that were bread into the Mandalorians. I get the impression there are some minor differences between Mandalorians and other humans, but Mandalorian blood was almost thinned out of existence. And the story of Mira, indicates this practice continued to go on until on their culture remaine, but the time of the Prequal era. Oh and hi I'm a new poster. Welcome to the forums. You are exactly right and I completely agree with you. A great first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayNilad Warrior Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Mandalorian is a culture that focuses on combat and honor, i.e. the Way of the Warrior of the Japanese. Bearing this in mind we must remember that the Mandalorians became nothing more than mercenaries thereofore the Madalorians, as a culture, died out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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