Nute Gunray Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosencrantz Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 *lol* and also, your words have incurred this... <img src="http://sobclan.obiwan-network.com/guildbar.gif" height="100" width="800"> <font size=1> [This message has been edited by rosencrantz (edited February 13, 2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoom Rabbit Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 Yaaa-aa--! All fear the Rainbow Vortex of Doom!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold leader Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 GL's favourite form of art is film. I like SW the most. And I do consider SW art. It has character development, human weakness and strength as one of the major themes and refers to ancient mythology very often. Just like literature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoom Rabbit Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 *!* Twenty-nine posts later, and finally someone takes this topic seriously. Wally the space dolphin awards you a ton of space fish for your troubles. Okay. My favorite art form has to be writing, with my leathercrafts coming in a distant second. I used to draw with pen-and-ink, but it's been awhile. Even longer since I did ceramics and painting (highschool.) My most unique hobby, which could be considered art, is kit-bashing my own star-warsy spaceship models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold leader Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 *eats a space fish* . . . . . *pukes* On a more serious note; This week's philosophical question: what's the definition of art? What makes art art? The best answer will be rewarded with a ton of space fish (minus one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vark111 Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 Originally posted by Gold leader: What makes art art? It was invented by my dad, whose name is Art. Otherwise it would be called "Bob". ------------------ It takes all kinds... The question is, what is 'it'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosencrantz Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 my real fav. art form is painting (not my own. i dont paint). what indeed is art...here are my thoughts: *"art" is decided by art critics, curators, collectors...the general public really has no say. *there are 2 realms to the "art world"---the "art world", which is, like, common everyday prints (ex robert bateman) and the "Art World", which is supposedly higher forms of art. *there are no universal qualities that make a work of art "art". works of art are society specific. they are ethnocentric. *a work of art isn't considered "art" until it's in an aesthetic space (i.e. museum, gallery, etc.) *this dude named danto says this: "it must have a subject that is not itself" if you get that and that is all. *phew* what a loaded question. philosophers have debated that for years. anyone ever read plato's Republic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 I've been told I'm an artistic person, but I don't think I am. I have no skill at translating the things in my head into a physical representation. Even in my writing I don't think I come off well. People say it's really good and stuff, but it's a pale shadow of what's in my head. In my *true* pet project (a novel), there's no possible way that it can be put onto paper and still be as epic as it is in my mind. Not even made into a movie could it achieve it's full vastness. [This message has been edited by Nute Gunray (edited February 13, 2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 I like the rainbow. I like art of war. Ros, I also read a lot. ------------------ "Dulce bellum inexpertis." (Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Cracken Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 Personally, i like the art of music. The flow, and eb of sound is amazing. but these young punks think they can pull music out thier ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoom Rabbit Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 I thought that was called 'lint.' Art? I think art is anything that touches you. I find art in nature, art the works of people. Art...for me, anyway, is one of those things that is in the eye of the beholder. Keep the fish, though. I already had to unload it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emupiett Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 Hey Cmdr., I agree with you. Music is also my favorite art form. But "pop" musicians do not make art. ------------------ "Intensify forward firepower!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargon Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 war and music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 Great minds think alike, Zarg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thrawn Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 *walks in* What are we talking about? ------------------ "Noobies Suck" ThRaWn90,RAL_Thrawn,SOB_Thrawn Rogue 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR2000Z Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 No idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 I posted but don't know the topic R9 are you saying Zargon is dumb. that isn't nice. ------------------ "Dulce bellum inexpertis." (Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosencrantz Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 yo nutiferous i hate that feeling of not being able to express yourself. like you know you have something to share, but feel like you can't ever begin to express it nearly as wonderful as it is in your mind. our minds are amazing then, don't you think? if "art" is a mere representation, even a poor one at that, of what someone sees in their mind's eye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 it is sad. I could devote pages to describing a single fighter's movement to engage an enemy fighter in my novel, but it would never be exactly, or even close, to how *I* see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoom Rabbit Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 I think the kind of art form we're wishing for here won't be available until our technology is much, much advanced--and the human mind with it. Only when we have direct interaction between mind and technology will we be able to recreate the stuff that can be seen in the mind's eye. When we have holodecks like Star Trek, I think we'll be getting closer to having enough control of artistic medium to supplant the viewer's environment altogether. Can you imagine the videogames and novels, the interactive documentaries that will be possible? Instead of trying to describe the assassination of JFK (for example) we will be able to take the whole class there, for a field trip. And the abstract art will be incredible! Holographic pieces would be coordinated to impact on all senses. But as I was saying at the beginning, the truly stunning artistic expression won't be possible until we can directly connect our minds and communicate what our mind's eye can perceive. Suddenly people might not think mystics were crazy after all. The science fiction adventures possible in such a future would be fantastic. Why go watch Star Wars when you could actually join the Rebel Alliance and help take out the Death Star yourself? Ah, but this is just the year 2001. *Sigh.* *(Goes and plays videogames.)* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoom Rabbit Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 And I don't think war is so much an art as it is a craft...at least not in the context in which we're using the word 'art' here. Otherwise, I agree with what y'all are saying, re the Sun Tzu. I just read Musashi's Book of Five Rings recently, a work which goes a long way to show how the craft of fighting can be useful when applied to other areas of life, even peaceful ones. Musashi? Seventeenth-century samurai warrior and zen master. Don't mess with samurai! Getting back on track...the samurai--and Musashi was a good example of this--practiced painting, flower arranging* and haiku (just to mention a few popular arts of the period) as a means of developing their concentration. The act of expressing themselves creatively brought about clarity of mind which could be carried over into another craft...warfare. And just for the record, Wally's favorite art is nude Swedish hermaphrodite midget jell-o wrestling. I tried telling him that was a sport, but there's no talking to space dolphins... <font size=1>*Go ahead and make fun of a samurai while he's making flower arrangements--see what happens.</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Beastie Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 My favourite art would have to be writing, both prose and poetry (that's why I do it), but I also love music (especially instrumentals), and painting/photography. Basically anything that blurs the lines between reality and unreality (either fantasy, mythology, fiction, or dream-logic). This is why much of my writing is set "between the cracks and in the shadows." The worlds I write could be real, because the action is secret from most of the world. You can walk out on the street and imagine that that guy across the street is really a dragon shape-shifted into a human, or that that cute girl at the pizza place is really a 1000-year-old Faerie Sorceress, or that your english teacher is also a practicing sorceror who routinely summons the ancient gods. For me, art is mastery. A true artist has no limits. He or she can accomplish anything in any way. Like a samurai who can fight equally well without his sword and armour, or who can stand on equal footing with trained ninja. The hierarchy is: Novice, Journeyman, Expert, Master, Artist. "If you can fight, you can dance." --Mr. Miyagi (The New Karate Kid) ------------------ "Do fish-people eat fish, or would that be like humans eating monkeys?" "Humans do eat monkeys. In fact humans eat other humans. . . Y'know, as a species, we are really quite unpleasant." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 I liked Sun Pin's Military Methods more than Sun Tzu's The Art of War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosencrantz Posted February 14, 2001 Share Posted February 14, 2001 !!!! i forgetted about photography!! also a favorite art form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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