shaded6 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 i am glad that the epiodes got into a more detail on anakin skywalkers nature. his conversion to the dark side was a, less moving one. it showed his emotion, not neccessarily his power, though he was mostly strong. i dont think it was in him to become evil, i think that because of whatever reason he converted, which we all know why, was a terrible reason. his entire attitude changed, instantly. over the years, he had gained more control over his power, a good example of the force, but, was he actually powerful? he was more of a diplomatic evil, as were many Sith before him. he had his ability, never really getting into his knowledge of the force, ever, but why is it he is given credit to be a powerful Sith Lord? yes, in ways he might have been powerful, to an extent, most Sith are, but, does this mean he was the most? who was the most powerful Sith who reigned over a course of years in the knowledge of the force? yeah i have recently been called, Darth Deno'r. There is no emotion; there is peace. There is no ignorance; there is knowledge. There is no passion; there is serenity. There is no chaos; there is harmony. There is no death; there is the Force. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi is this code? see all aspects of the force can be rendered either for good or evil in everything....why does good and evil have to exist against eachother when the force speaks of things like this? wouldnt this destroy chaos if we came to a conclusion instead of destroying eachother? leave it to ignorance of lust to be the in-balance. havent we all had this problem....i know i have. the dark side is powerful indeed...question is, can you control yourself? never convert the padawan to the dark side. let him convert himself...and make his mistakes from the influence of opinion. it could cause him his death. and that is the end of him. the force is moving and compelling. seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbag Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 If you mean the guy with the blakc helmet and asthma, it's VadEr. Please, I can't read your post because of the lack of organisation and grammar, sometimes spelling. Please clean it up, maybe then I can make something of it... for now: The Light Side is the Force's true side. The Dark Side is a twist, it gives more power, faster, but gives pain to the user and destroys the user, slowly, and when they die, that's it. Light Side users do not die - they become one with the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 14, 2006 Author Share Posted January 14, 2006 yeah well i didnt come here to get an english lit major, so, if your not interested because of mispelled words, why read the post? and, yeah, sorry, it is Vader, man, you over emphasize literal perspective. organization? what? okay....check out when Marka Ragnos came back...and just because it has never happened, doesnt mean it cant and wont. by the way, yeah, because some Jedi of the light side has that mentality, maybe this is why hundreds of them died in the process. did they all come back? seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbag Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Only the powerful ones can come back as a Force Ghost for a period of time. But not forever. With some you can communicate when meditating. The Jedi want peace and harmony. They are guardians of the peace. The Sith want power. The greed for power blinds them in a sense. Corrupts and destroys them. How many Sith had damaged bodies and were in great pain? Malak, Sion, Vader... the Sith can use the Force to manipulate others and wound them. The Jedi can heal and they guide their moves with the Force. The Sith use anger and hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 14, 2006 Author Share Posted January 14, 2006 yes, most of the Sith do, but everything i have written about the Sith states that they dont have to. Darth Sion is one and a million to gain power from pain and self infliction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Sion power is not hate or anger, it is the emotion behind how you use them. you cant just expect to cut everyones body in half because you feel you have more power then your opponent. you go into the fight with that aspect, what happens if its your body? or, say you succeed, then you boast in your "power" and ability and fall even further from what the force is all about. and i dont believe that all the Sith, atleast not the True Sith, use anger and hate to win battles and attain power. if they do, and get that power, where does it usually end up eventually? death: seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleDog Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 So why do you want to be a Sith? You seem to have a pretty good handle on the fact that it is all negative. Emotion doesn't really give you power, it just allows you to focus the power you have, but it cuts you off from the greater power of the Force. 25,000 years before the battle of Yavin the first Jedi discovered that by striving for balance within themselves and controling their emotions they could learn to hear the flow of the galaxey. A Jedi can become powerful without needing to feed off their own emotions, more than this they recognize the uselessness of power for its own sake and so serve others, because through the Force they have achieved enlightenment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 isnt it possible to come to the same realization by both traveling down the light and dark side of the force? who said i wanted to be Sith? actually, i am neither, but both. seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleDog Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 The dark and light aren't the same. There is no light side, only the Force. The dark side is a twisting of the Force within you, there is no enlightenment to be had there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 we can finish this tommorrow. i have to head out to my girls house for the night and will be back sometime tommorrow. later. but yeah, give me some more info on what you know and i will tell you what i think. seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 As this topic isn't about TSL... moving to Ahto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 ....yeah i have recently been called, Darth Deno'r. lolz...by whom, your momz, gym teech ?? My girlfriend calls me "The Master Plumber" tho maybe a sith name would be more 1337 If your a sith fan, theres a lot more out there than the KOTOR games KOTOR1 does a good job with correlating with original KOTOR era material...but KOTOR 2 definitely took some liberties in the interests of plot development... and a mandalore v.20...that was just WRONG .... lolz The jedi/sith code described in KOTOR doesnt really apply for what anakin has rebelled against... though it was never entirely spelt out in the films, the jedi code seemed more about social concepts like marriage.. In EU, Luke's Masters Council hasnt come up with a rulebook thus far either... At the end of the day, aanakins response was very "human" - he did what he did for very personal reasons, peace, harmony and serenity be damned mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleDog Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 The code was written for the films IIRC but the Jedi have lots of other rules. Apparently lots of Jedi broke the no-marriage thing in the Great Sith War. They probably should have left that whole thread out. You could have had the same effect by just having Bastila say she was devoted to the Force, or something. The code is supposed to be a Jedi's guide, thats why Obi-Wan says to Anakin "remember the code" whenever he gets wound up. The idea is you look at your actions, see whether they fit the code and then decide whether you're doing the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 i live by code, basically. its a matter of principle. but there is a lot more oppurtunity of control over yourself by submitting to a matter of principle, discipline and the force. the idea is submitting. by the way, no offense, but, my mom doesnt have a gym "teech." i would like to get more into then just the game, i already am but there is so much out there, a lot of research on the subject and a lot of contemplation on the Truth. i'm going to a college affiliated with lucas, so, someday i hope to see the same dream he saw years ago, and if you read any of his quotes, i found a good one the other day, he took the force into literal situations; by making us think. i can see it this way, understand the "reality" in it all. so ofcourse i seek to understand my own paths and destiny in order to be a great successor for a moving empire. this is only the beginning of the star wars empire, and i can see it growing into all kinds of possibilities, i want to be part of it, in seriousness, not just sit back in the theory, but going out and making a stand in something i love. choose your path: i did and i continue to seek what it means to walk it. Darth Deno'r seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Terros Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 You still didnt answer astros question though? Who is it exactly that calls you Darth Deno'r?. Lol all though i've only been a member of these forums for a short while i've noticed they do seem to attract a great deal of strange characters, what ever happaned to the guy who believed the force was real? Another Question who the hell is Darth VadOr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 lol. you.ve probably read one thread of what i am getting at towards everything i am getting at. by the way, awesome comic strip. but, yeah, read above, i corrected it, Darth Vader. and, yeah, why is my name so important to how you look at me? because of my character? well, if you understand me and what i want to do, everything i talk about, i can name myself, because i follow my own path towards what i want to accomplish. plus, the most of this conversation is between me and battledog, not saying you cant get into, most of what i talk about is with him, for whatever reason, but yeah. you want to get to know more about me and my understanding on things and my ways of going about to express it, dont judge me as some trekki. not saying you are. lol, some guy thought the force was real? i mean, he thought he could move **** with his mind, had a real sabre and flew battle cruisers? weird....yeah, dont think this of me, alright, i am not psychotic. your quote: "through passion i gain strength." definately a dark side concept, only because i understand it for what it means. George Lucas once said in an interview with Bill Moyers: “I put the Force into the movie in order to try to awaken a certain kind of spirituality in young people — more a belief in God than a belief in any particular religious system. I wanted to make it so that young people would begin to ask questions about the mystery.” seth yes: Darth Deno'r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 what ever happaned to the guy who believed the force was real? Good times. I think he's been shunned from the forum society for that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 well good for him and his fantasy. hope he finds that realization so he doesnt become mentally ill, if, he already isnt. man, this is why i hate the internet. too many groupies. does this thread still exist? i would really like to see it, for no reason but to figure out why someone can go that far. it may be a fantasy, which has its limits, but it has a total different reality to it when you acess your life and the influence of "the balance." damn junkies. seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 i think you need to spend more time at livejournal for this type of contemplation shaded mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Terros Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 your quote: "through passion i gain strength." definately a dark side concept, only because i understand it for what it means. Well duh of course its a darkside concept its from the sith code. You know nothing of the darkside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 ...You know nothing of the darkside. lolz....please dont start trouble Terros... remember, there are always two sith lords..... you two would make a wonderful couple mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 lmao. okay terros, did i need to read the code to know it was Sith? no. and, how is it you know i dont know the dark side of the force? i have read the code, but i dont need to to find the idea on what the dark side is because i read it. if he wants to start trouble, let him, its on him in how he thinks, not how i have to react to it. do i have to let petty **** like that effect me? no. and i wont. and, because you think that, can i ask, do you? you are probably consumed by it, so dont tell me what you think you know about what you think i know. follow your code then, because you do "know" the dark side of the force. i control myself, Jedi teaching, i use my anger, Sith teaching, but because i control myself, means i can control my anger. and if i get really pissed off, i'll go slay some lower level Sith who has no idea, just for fun and the act of thinking, well, 1 down, 7000 to go. i dont kill Jedi, only because the teaching of the force that came from them, but i would definately kill a Sith for the main reason that his ignorance in his power would probably lead him to challenge me...consumed by the dark side, and lose your head, you might not make it out with your life. lmao. yes astrology7, actually, no. i dont do "livejournal." dont know why you said that, um, we are in a thread i created on Darth Vader and every other subject on the Sith. this is a star wars forum, so why i cant get into theory about it, beats me. i wont get into the emotion i instantly had when terros said that. because i can use my emotions and control them, i realized i dont have to let it effect me. but if i needed to, i could let it consume me and i "lose my head". the way of the Sith. seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Terros Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 you two would make a wonderful couple mtfbwya Damn i was gonna hold out for you 'Astrology7' lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 lmao. Darth Terros, lets talk....tell me what you know. seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleDog Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Turn away from the dark side before it is too late, you will find only a shadow power there. Embrace the true nature of the Force and you will find peace and an end to your cravings for power. (If this gets any worse it'll get moved to the RP forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaded6 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 why? its not roleplay; i DONT roleplay, for good reason. what are the True ways of the Jedi? seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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