Question about Star Wars Technology

[Kurgan]

Wiki, but yeah. A generation might mean something else than 25 years, but it was the accepted consensus until AOTC. I've tried various explanations...that it's referring to generations of Jedi graduates, or generations are reckoned differently in a Republic/Order that isn't entirely human, different lifespans/birthing times, etc. Yet we're lead to believe SW humans are pretty much the same as earth humans, and time is pretty much the same as earth, even though it would mean Coruscant is almost the same as earth, etc. Anyway, now we have the Republic being re-formed and no wars (to coincide with Sio Bibble's statements in TPM).

 

As for the downgrading in technology, I don't think we can really take that as true. Yes, when Episodes I and II came out everybody commented that the tech seemed better in the prequels than in the classic trilogy. Now "shinier" doesn't equal more high tech, but for the most part they seemed to have a point. The armor seemed to work, they had bigger guns, their ships seemed better, HUDS were more technological looking, etc. Of course you could say that their fighters didn't have Hyperdrives of their own (had to use those rings) and no mention of fighter shields, but that's about it. Even Darth Maul's ship (in the EU) was said to have a cloaking device (and yes, it's smaller than the Falcon, a ship supposedly too small for one, according to that Imperial officer in ESB) even if he never used it.

 

So anyway, Lucas tried in ROTS to put things up to speed. When we see that the Rebels were a tiny faction, and that we saw the rich powerful side of the galaxy in the prequels while in the classic trilogy we mostly see the backwater Tatooine and sparsely populated places that the Rebels hide out in (or the primitives on the game preserve that is the Endor moon), and that the Imperial ships and such are supposed to be upgraded above the stuff we saw in ROTS,. etc. It sort of fits. You can blame some of the "look" on expediency.. mass production instead of striving for beauty and the like (the Naboo stuff is designed to be aesthetically pleasing). We see Coruscant, Naboo, and the other planets during the ROTJ SE Celebration and it all looks just like it did before, so no downgrade there. Maybe the Empire cut budgets and streamlined here and there (to afford all those super weapons and giant fleets!)...

[Prime]

The Sith being a breakaway Jedi sect 1,000 years before TPM was also introduced in the TPM novel. Before that the EU had an entire backstory for the Sith that had to be retconned (Tales of the Jedi comics). All we know from TPM (that we didn't know before) is that they Sith were thought extinct for a millennium.

So were they just a blip as far as the Jedi were concerned. Did they both arise and become extinct 1000 years ago?

[Kurgan]

Sorry, I misspoke. They rose and broke away from the Jedi Order aproximately 2,000 years before TPM. The "war" between the Sith and the Jedi (and the Sith and themselves) lasted 1,000 years, at the end of which the Sith were thought to have become extinct. So for a thousand years (up until Darth Maul's appearance), the Jedi Order assumed the Sith were history. But in reality, Darth Bane had merely started the "rule of two" and kept the Sith in hiding.

 

That's all according to the TPM novelisation, and it was the first source to posit such a backstory for the Sith.

 

Not really a blip (especially if the war lasted as long as the Republic's lifespan, even though it took place before the Republic's foundation via the AOTC chronology), but certainly not the 5,000+ timespan of Sith-involved galactic wars and empires talked about in pre-1999 comics. The prequels have given us a thousand year Republic that was formed after the last "full scale war" before the Clone Wars, and the Sith have a 2,000 year history prior to the movies, half of which was spent in hiding without the knowledge of the Jedi.

[Prime]

Sorry, I misspoke. They rose and broke away from the Jedi Order aproximately 2,000 years before TPM.

That makes more sense.

[Jan Gaarni]

But then again, there is a seperation between the original Sith Empire (thousands of years before) and its Sith race, and the Sith cult a couple of thousand years prior to the movies. That's what the Great Hyperspace War was fought between 5000 years BBY. Not a cult of different races using the dark teachings of the sith, but the actual Sith race and Empire.

 

I don't know.

I can always adapt if the Holocron one day deem the old history lessons as invalide. I always thought 25.000 years was aloooot of time, alittle too much time. But, it would be a shame aswell as there's so much great history involved here.

[Astrotoy7]

lolz...yes...be mindful of your use of the word "sith"

 

we dont need to have a "History of the Sith" Lesson do we ?? Sith can mean anything from an alien species, to soldier, to dark side ideologist and adept(Sith Lord)...

 

I think/hope some of the ambiguity about the sith may be dealt with in the upcoming Darth Bane novel

 

mtfbwya

[Kurgan]

But then again, there is a seperation between the original Sith Empire (thousands of years before) and its Sith race, and the Sith cult a couple of thousand years prior to the movies. That's what the Great Hyperspace War was fought between 5000 years BBY. Not a cult of different races using the dark teachings of the sith, but the actual Sith race and Empire.

 

I don't know.

I can always adapt if the Holocron one day deem the old history lessons as invalide. I always thought 25.000 years was aloooot of time, alittle too much time. But, it would be a shame aswell as there's so much great history involved here.

 

Yeah, even the "holocrons" are another thing from the EU that never made it into the movies (the Visual Dictionaries inserted them of course, but the movie showed us what appeared to be stacks of glowy books, dubbed "holographic records").

 

The "Jedi Archives" in AOTC is clearly inspired by the Trinity College library in Dublin, Ireland:

 

[Astrotoy7]

the sith holocron in the visual dictionary is cool It looks like it has a blueprint for the emperors throne room (from ds2) on it...

 

 

does anyone know what it says in aurebesh at the bottom ??

 

mtfbwya

[Kensai]

IN UMBRIS P(?)TEST(?)S EST

 

That's what I can make out, jibberish eh? It upside down also, so I had to flip the holocron...

[arkodeon]

That almost sounds latin. :\

[Prime]

does anyone know what it says in aurebesh at the bottom ??

"Aim away from face."

[Astrotoy7]

That almost sounds latin. :\

 

lolz... I believe that is true...as Umbra in latin means darkness/shadow...

 

*googles*

 

It seems others have noticed this too, and it was first picked up in a french magazine it seems. The writing is:

 

IN UMBRIS POTESTAS EST

 

namely, IN DARKNESS THERE IS POWER

 

AWESOMEZ.

 

Reminds me a bit of Vaders Hebrew breastplate labels.

 

mtfbwya

[Darth_Terros]

I think its In Umbris Potestas Est which is something like In darkness there is power

 

Edit: Damn astro got in there just before me lol