DarthMaul v.1/2 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I have a problem with my game crashing at the entrance to the hidden tomb on korriban( the one inside the shyrack caves). I know I saw this very problem in another thread, but I can't remember which thread or exactly which MOD is causing the problem (I have SEVERAL MODs active!). If anyone is familiar with what I am referring to, please post a thread or solution for me! Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackel Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 You should post this over at Holowen Labs ( http://www.lucasforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=324 ) This area is for threads about released mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~DarthGeek~ Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Well, can't help ya if i don't know what mods you have because i don't know if one might alter that module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 As Jackel states Taris Upper City Emporioum is solely for modders to post release threads in and to get feedback and bug reports in those threads for their mods. Holowan Labs is the best place for your thread DarthMaul... so I'm moving it there. Like with any other problem the more info you give the better chance you have at recieving help. As your post stands now there is no way to help you, other than guessing... like so; Do you use the Holowan Plugin for TSL? If so, then do you have all the patches and fixes for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dede_frost Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Well, right now all I can think of that uses that module is the Master Lonna Vash mod (that makes her be alive). Do u have this mod instaled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaul v.1/2 Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 Well, right now all I can think of that uses that module is the Master Lonna Vash mod (that makes her be alive). Do u have this mod instaled? Thanks for trying to help dede_frost, and no, I do not have the lonna vash MOD installed--- I also do not have the halowan plug-in installed. I am sure that I saw a similar post and problem, I just can't remember where. I do have USM installed and Dark Apprentice Halowan Consorteum, Kreia's robe(darkshroud), combat simulation arena, defenders wristconsole 1.9, and TSL Hak-Pad--- I think the post I saw before with the same problem was in relation to one of these MODs, but I am not sure. Any more help would be greatly appreciated. As Jackel states Taris Upper City Emporioum is solely for modders to post release threads in and to get feedback and bug reports in those threads for their mods. Holowan Labs is the best place for your thread DarthMaul... so I'm moving it there. Like with any other problem the more info you give the better chance you have at recieving help. As your post stands now there is no way to help you, other than guessing... like so; Do you use the Holowan Plugin for TSL? If so, then do you have all the patches and fixes for it? Sorry about posting in the wrong spot and thanks for moving it for me, RedHawke! I should have known that by now! To answer tour Halowan Plug-In question, NO, I don't have that MOD installed, and as I replied to dede_frost I do have USM, Dark Apprentice Halowan Consorteum, Kreia's robes, combat simulation arena, and several others, I think the post I saw with the same problem was in one of these, but I am not sure--- any further help is appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Ok please list as many of the mods installed as possible. Odds are it is a lonely tga file who's dimensions are not correct. It seems that module likes to catch texture files that do not have perfect dimensions and crash the game. The issue the Holowan Plugin for TSL was having was a simple lightsaber hilt texture of all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaul v.1/2 Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 Ok please list as many of the mods installed as possible. Odds are it is a lonely tga file who's dimensions are not correct. It seems that module likes to catch texture files that do not have perfect dimensions and crash the game. The issue the Holowan Plugin for TSL was having was a simple lightsaber hilt texture of all things. Hey Darkkender, here is a list of ALL the MODs I have installed (there are a few!): 1- USM 2- Dark Apprentice Halowan Consorteum 3- Kreia's robes (Dark Shroud) 4- 6Heart of the Force sabers 5- xcom's single-blade into double-blade saber crystals 6- Atris' Gift robes 7- Bao Dur jedi armor (I think this one is by "fresnosmokey" and gives you the option of Jedi or Sith armor for Bao Dur- are you familiar with this MOD?) 8- RedHawke's Revan Robes 9- RedHawke's Exile Item Pack 10- Combat Simulation Arena 11- AVOL's Hoods for Jedi robes 12- Bakura War Axe 13- Onderon Museum Upgrade -by "Mono Giganto" 14- Marka Ragnos' Item Pack 15- MrDefender's WristConsole 1.9 16- TSL Hak Pad and TSL Hak Pad Booster 2.0 17- Spirit of the Force and Spectre of the Force robes 18- sciamanos Quinlan Vos PC 19- sciamanos Grievous 20- recruit Nihilus (replaces GOTO) 21- Dhagon Ghent recruitment MOD (replaces T3-M4) 22- sspretige padawans 23- TSL High Level Force Powers and High Level Force Powers "fix" 24- Maverick and RedHawke Prestige Item Pack 25- khoonda lost room MOD 26- AVOL Boba Fett Armor --- I think I listed them ALL! Hey, I told you I had more than a few! Anyways, I hope this list helps you to help me! Thanks, Darkkender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackel Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 To make your list a litle easier to read you might want to make it like this: 1 - USM 2 - Dark Apprentice Holowen Consortium 3 - etc This way its a bit easier to scan through and maybe see the mod we think might be causing the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaul v.1/2 Posted April 8, 2006 Author Share Posted April 8, 2006 P.S. Darkkender: After reading your tga file dimension problem I got the idea to try passing into the secre tomb WITHOUT any of my tga files, and then once inside re-load them. So I moved ALL my tga files from override and KOTOR2 directory and put them in a seperate folder outside the game. I loaded the saved game (right in front of secret tomb entrance) and tried to go into the tomb, the game still crashed- so I am guessing that a bad tga isn't the problem, right? Any other ideas as to what might cause this? If not a bad tga, then could it be a bad txi? And on a side note, when I have tried to load the official LucasArts v.2.0 TSL Patch, I only get through 90% of loading before it stops and gives me a message like this: cannot find file, however a similar file exists--- then I cannot finish loading the last 10% of the Patch --- I thought this was because of some .wav files I changed out with modded versions ( GOTO'S voice to Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker saber sounds, and blaster sounds changed to the sounds from the original Star Wars trilogy) --- Do you believe these two are related? Do you know if the Lucas Arts Patch does anything to 711KOR, the secret tomb? Sorry about not making a cleare list in my previous post, but I am pressed for time right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoraxeRMG Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 how does it crash. Like the music keeps skipping and der der der derd der. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 A txi file would not have been the problem as they are simple files associated with the tga files that provide additional texture information. If the tga is not present then the txi doesn't get read. However there could be a script file from one of those mods that is causing problems. As much as I'm loathe to say it I'm thinking the problem might lie in Chainz.2da's Kreia's robe mod. The reason is Kreia is associated with the cutscene that begins when you enter the hidden tomb. I would read through the release thread for that mod as I believe there had been some known issues with crashes derived from cutscenes involving Kreia. I also know that there was a fix for that mod as well that you may or may not have downloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaul v.1/2 Posted April 8, 2006 Author Share Posted April 8, 2006 A txi file would not have been the problem as they are simple files associated with the tga files that provide additional texture information. If the tga is not present then the txi doesn't get read. However there could be a script file from one of those mods that is causing problems. As much as I'm loathe to say it I'm thinking the problem might lie in Chainz.2da's Kreia's robe mod. The reason is Kreia is associated with the cutscene that begins when you enter the hidden tomb. I would read through the release thread for that mod as I believe there had been some known issues with crashes derived from cutscenes involving Kreia. I also know that there was a fix for that mod as well that you may or may not have downloaded. Darkkender: I apologize for taking so long to respond, I was a little busy... Good news from my end- after reading your post about the "Kreia's Robes" MOD, I tried using the "fix" for this MOD, and YES I am running in Windows2000 and I did follow the instructions for the "fix", but just to let you know, the fix did NOT work for me--- anyone else having this problem with the "fix" MOD not working? I downloaded the fix at jumpstationz--- Anyway, after I tried the fix and it still crashed, I decided to remove the "Kreia's Robes" MOD (ALL the files from override), and PRESTO! I am able to enter the secret tomb! I am going to finish playing through the tomb, and once I exit back to Ebon Hawk I will simply re-install the MOD! I know it aint the best fix, but it works! I am also loathe to admit that it is indeed the Kreia's Robes MOD that is causing the crash, but at least now we know for certain! Hey, Darkkender, does this mean the game will crash at another similar module, like the one on Dxun, when your party is split up, or the module on Dantooine when you confront the remaining Jedi Masters, or the module on Malachor V when you have the Kreia battle? I still think the Kreia's Robe MOD is definitely one of my favorites, especially going through the Medical area on Telos, it always did seem like there neede to be something to do story-wise there. I also like the dialog between Exile and Kreia--- not to mention the ultra-cool " Dark Shroud" --- it reminds me of the Queen from Alice in Wonderland! Definitely as cool as Kreia has ever looked ( the default Kreia makes my overall view of TSL drop almost as much as it's incredible incompletness does!) --- I hope this "half-a55ed" solution helps out anyone with a similar problem--- like I said, just uninstall the Kreia's Robes MOD BEFORE "going on alone" into the secret tomb--- then, once you leave the tomb you can re-load the Kreia MOD--- if my suspicions about the game crashing again in a different module are right, then a wise move might be to do like me and make a backup override folder outside of the SWKotOR2 directory (your desktop), and copy the override folder from your SWKotOR2 directory( copy the override folder BEFORE re-installing the Kreia's Robes MOD!) --- and paste it to the backup override folder that is located on your desktop--- do this BEFORE you re-install Kreia ROBES MOD so IF the game does crash in other areas because of this MOD, instead of going through the hassle of uninstalling the MOD and all its files, you can simply swap out override folders and swap them again like I did for 711KOR --- this should work for anyone having these MOD related crashes, at least until a final "fix" is made-- Thanks again Darkkender, I wouldn't have gotten to a solution this soon if not for your post about the Kreia MOD! See, I knew I had seen similar posts of the same problem in another thread. I just couldn't remember which MOD the thread was from, but you remembered for me! Awesome job again DK! You are ALWAYS quick to answer questions and help out --- much RESPECT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Glad you found the crash cause. I would go ahead and try each of the areas with the mod installed just to possibly help chainz.2da for resolution of bugs. That and if your entering an area and it doesn't crash then you wouldn't have to worry about saving and quitting just to reload the mod all the time. You also shouldn't have to play through the entire tomb without the mod installed. simply uninstall it when entering the module and the initial cutscene plays through then save and reload the mod once in the module. Now I realize you might have been in a hurry when writing the above posts but it really isn't an excuse for not providing people with some spacing between paragraphs. Such as Jackel suggested above. When we read through the posts alot of us stop reading when our eyes are not given a break in a paragraph. When that happens you get less people who will jump to providing feedback and support. I'm not trying to scold you as much as provide advice for the future when posting so that people are more likely to help you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyjedi Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Hmmm, I've just finished Korriban with the Kriea's robes mod installed and it ran fine and glitch-free. (fixed version in Win98. I also have the Vash mod installed, if it makes a diff) The only thing I can think of that happens right in front of the acadamy is the plinth with the tattered shroud in it. Did you remove the shroud before attempting to enter? It's possible that something in the script chokes if thee thing is still inside the plinth when you transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaul v.1/2 Posted April 8, 2006 Author Share Posted April 8, 2006 Hey Darkkender--- Man, I really apologize for that awful looking post--- I was in a hurry, but I didn't mean for it to look like a legal disclaimer! I will slow down a little in the future to keep that from happening again. And yes, I am going to warp to the different modules to test the Kreia Robes MOD on the areas with Kreia related cutscenes to see if any further crashes happen. I will let you and chainz know what I find, probably in an hour or so. Although I am not certain, I think the game only crashes if Kreia's appearance is altered by wearing the Dark Shroud--- so if the MOD is installed I think it is O.K. as long as you change Kreia's appearance BEFORE the cutscene begins--- just a theory, I will test this as well. Thanks again for taking time to help and giving some good advice DK! Hmmm, I've just finished Korriban with the Kriea's robes mod installed and it ran fine and glitch-free. (fixed version in Win98. I also have the Vash mod installed, if it makes a diff) The only thing I can think of that happens right in front of the acadamy is the plinth with the tattered shroud in it. Did you remove the shroud before attempting to enter? It's possible that something in the script chokes if thee thing is still inside the plinth when you transition. Hello shinyjedi, I am running on Windows2000xp service pack 1, so I am not sure how the MOD reacts to each windows version. I know about the "fix"MOD for 98 and 2000 windows, I installed it properly, but my game still crashed until I removed the Kreia Robes MOD (however, I think if I had just changed Kreia's appearance BEFORE the cutscene it would not have crashed---theoretically, that is!) I did remove the tattered shroud materials from the structure BEFORE entering the shyrack cave, so I don't think that was the problem. And I do not have the Lonna Vash MOD installed. I am thinking that the Kreia Robes MOD is definitely what caused my crash. I am going to test some other similar areas for crashes caused by this MOD and I will post the findings here shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaul v.1/2 Posted April 8, 2006 Author Share Posted April 8, 2006 **** In regards to game crashing at Korriban secret tomb, I have warped to the Dxun module (where your party is split-up), I believe it is 410DXN. I also warped to the end battle with Kreia (906MAL- I think...), and I am pleased to report that with the Kreia's Robes MOD installed, I encountered no further crashes--- I believe my crash problem happened because I had Kreia's appearance as wearing the Dark Shroud when I went to enter the secret tomb. Although it is not a perfect fix, it IS functional. Anyone else who may be having similar crashes can follow the same method I posted above to "bypass" the crash. Big thanks to Darkkender for helping me get to this 1/2 fix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaul v.1/2 Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hey there, moderators! Please feel free to close this thread, I have solved the original problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Done! per thread makers request... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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