Hyperspace travel could become a reality, but of course there are some obstacles.

[Ray Jones]

It's very obvious what I'm complaining about they keep this stuff secret.

No you didn't:

One main thing that stop all human progress is our strong dependency on money, if money was no issue we will probably colonizing the Milky Way right now.

As along as money determine our fate in the galaxy we will be stuck on this planet for 10,000s of years, never to leave until over population force us to leave.

[...]

The physics is there, money and laziness of our society only holds us back.

 

I cannot find such statement.. Actually you came up with the "military's keepin' it secret argument" not before post #59.

 

More obviously you mocked the "fact" that we (mankind) have not reached out to travel into distant space.

 

Right now you say that "they" probably or even almost for sure already have technology for space travel (and even starships) at hand. But wouldn't that mean we're into space travel already? And if that's so, wouldn't be the only logical thing to do be to actively use it for what it's been made for?

 

So basically, if anyone on this planet has constructed a cool space craft with whateveritscalledfasttravellingtechnology, I'll bet my life any time, it has been used already, hence your argumentation about laziness would be not correct.

[Windu Chi]

No you didn't:

I cannot find such statement.. Actually you came up with the "military's keepin' it secret argument" not before post #59.

You must have not seen my previous old thread:Who believe that the world's militaries may have been secretly builing star fleets? I been speculating about this since 09-15-2006, 10:53 PM.

More obviously you mocked the "fact" that we (mankind) have not reached out to travel into distant space.

Yes, I mock the fact, it's ridiculous.

 

 

So basically, if anyone on this planet has constructed a cool space craft with whateveritscalledfasttravellingtechnology, I'll bet my life any time, it has been used already, hence your argumentation about laziness would be not correct.

There are lazy people who don't want expedite matters to fast concerning interstellar travel.

They want delay it for generations and solve every single problem here first, or they don't care about interstellar travel

Leave that matter 50 years or so in the future, as the opinions they have.

[Ray Jones]

Where is the logic when you mock the fact that mankind's not up to leave for space adventures but also state that there are already space crafts available, which also are at least underlying the process of being tested?

[Windu Chi]

Where is the logic when you mock the fact that mankind's not up to leave for space adventures but also state that there are already space crafts available, which also are at least underlying the process of being tested?

Ok, Ray some in our society, who experiment with secret technology are up to it.

[Ray Jones]

Yeah, and basically you're just jealous because you're not one of them. ;

[Windu Chi]

Yeah, and basically you're just jealous because you're not one of them. ;

You're damn right I'm jealous, I'm not going to lie about that, if personal stuff didn't happen in my life I would probably flying Airforce black projects.

 

But there are some in our society that act lazy or uninspired concerning interstellar travel.

Wait long times, as the position they holds, thats impossible; that will never happen, thats a long time off, thats why they call it science fiction etc.

Uninspired and lazy!

[PoiuyWired]

Yeah, and basically you're just jealous because you're not one of them. ;

 

Hmmm sure I am, in some way. But then again I know I won't be doing it, even if that is available for me. A journey like that wwould be my lifetime, and I know my love will not be going, even if she can.

 

On the other hand, Humans are really not ready for space travel, even if we have the technology. Think about it. On the rare occasion that we would meet another sentient species... *cough cough*

 

I mean, lets hope that what whatever species we met would be way more advance than us, or I am darn sure we would pretty much beat the daylight out of them and enslave/exploit them, if they are lucky enough not to get a total genocide. Ordos Xenos...

 

But practically, is it worth it to pull out the great adventure, when many of the planets on this little solar system is not even well explored? Hack, we did not even finish exploring deep oceans yet.

[Windu Chi]

On the other hand, Humans are really not ready for space travel, even if we have the technology. Think about it. On the rare occasion that we would meet another sentient species... *cough cough*

The readiness of socitey respect ot interstellar travel depends on this relation readiness~= reluctance/money x laziness if it cost more money or we give up too easily because it is to hard a task(laziness) we are not ready now or ever.

More reluctance we have; not give up on a hard task or worry about money issue, the more ready we are.

I mean, lets hope that what whatever species we met would be way more advance than us, or I am darn sure we would pretty much beat the daylight out of them and enslave/exploit them, if they are lucky enough not to get a total genocide. Ordos Xenos...

Well, if that happen we would have a interstellar war on our hands.

But practically, is it worth it to pull out the great adventure, when many of the planets on this little solar system is not even well explored? Hack, we did not even finish exploring deep oceans yet.

 

The only spheres I believe that is worth exploring in this star system is Jupiter's moons Europa and Callisto (maybe a global ocean underneath their crust), Saturn's moon Titan( it's the only moon that has a thick atmosphere and maybe have life under it's surface, of unknown composition).

[edlib]

*BUMP*

 

Ahhh... I've missed this thread.

 

 

I wonder what has happened in the research on these matters in the intervening months since this thread was abandoned. (It seems that the thread-starter and greatest advocate of these theories has been banned... so it's unlikely we'll get any kind of answer.)

 

I re-read this one today,.. with all the extra perspective of the world economy currently in near free-fall... and the fact that Space Exploration is probably destined to take a bit of a back seat for a few years until the world governments can shore up the hemorrhaging financial markets.

 

It seems to me that we have almost certainly added several years (if not decades...) to being able to fund the kind of manned exploration of even our own solar system that it would take to prepare for any kind of mass colonization of the stars.

 

Reality strikes again...