Holy War Declared On Australia

Natty · November 5, 2001

A few days ago the Taliban declared Holy war on Australia. Now I'm really starting to worry, before sure I was worried, but tended not to think of it that much coz, well yeah. Anyway now I feel like all I'm doing is painicking, expecting something to happen, especially with the rumors of something happening to Sydney's neuclear power plant (which I don't live in Sydney, but that's beside the point)

How do you guys cope- especially those in America who are in the middle of it, and since there's the threats of blowing up big bridges in the middle of peak hour traffic. It's freaking me out thinking they could go after the Rialto Towers here in Melbourne (the biggest building in the Southern Hemishpere) or the Westgate Bridge (due to the rumors of blowing up bridges in America) or they could go after the Sydney Opera House or the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Should I be working myself up into a frenzy? Or pretend nothing is happening? I wanna try and get on with things best way I know how to, but it's kinda hard when all I can think about is Australia being at risk like America is. We've already had our anthrax scares, but they all turned out to be fake

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Al-back from the BigWhoop · November 5, 2001

y did this happen?

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Metallus · November 5, 2001

Oh my goodness!

I hadn't heard about this latest development. Why would the Taleban pick Australia? Is it because of the recent Afghan refugee crisis there, or just because Australia supports the US's military action? This comes as a big surprise, but I really doubt that anything serious will come of it.

The Taleban has already condemned the UK and other America-supporting countries, but so far there haven't been any credible threats coming from Al-Quaeda (spelling?) in allied countries.

I live in California, where there have been recent threats against our landmark bridges, such as the famous Golden Gate. You just have to have faith in those who are defending your homeland, and hope that the Australian government is taking these threats seriously, no matter how improbable an actual attack would be.

Do you have a link to an Australian news site that talks about this? I'm really curious to hear the full story.

Stay positive, Natty.

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Guybrush122 · November 5, 2001

Originally posted by Natty:
A few days ago the Taliban declared Holy war on Australia. Now I'm really starting to worry, before sure I was worried, but tended not to think of it that much coz, well yeah. Anyway now I feel like all I'm doing is painicking, expecting something to happen, especially with the rumors of something happening to Sydney's neuclear power plant (which I don't live in Sydney, but that's beside the point)

How do you guys cope- especially those in America who are in the middle of it, and since there's the threats of blowing up big bridges in the middle of peak hour traffic. It's freaking me out thinking they could go after the Rialto Towers here in Melbourne (the biggest building in the Southern Hemishpere) or the Westgate Bridge (due to the rumors of blowing up bridges in America) or they could go after the Sydney Opera House or the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Should I be working myself up into a frenzy? Or pretend nothing is happening? I wanna try and get on with things best way I know how to, but it's kinda hard when all I can think about is Australia being at risk like America is. We've already had our anthrax scares, but they all turned out to be fake

If something does happen to me, remember I looooooooove you

Thats how i fealt after, ya know. This is how I cope. If you die you die. Its whats meant to happen. If you panic then you are letting them win. Terrorists purpose are to strike fear into you so much that you cant function. Dont let them win...go about your normal life, cry over the lost, cheer over the victory. We cannot loose, we will not loose. This isnt WWII where the Nazis have most of Europe and when England and Australia and Russia were weak allies. They inhabit the middle east. WE have America (who has won most of the wars in which they engaged in) and Enland, with a wonderful navy and army, Australia: powerful, Israel: faithful. And not only that BUT the civil war in Afghan are weakening there military by the second. We will prevail. Its rashonal to fear at first, but dont let them win.

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COJ · November 5, 2001

i agree...cuz like theres is no WW3 if US, Canada, British, Germany, France, Japan are together...u should just relax...like I did on sep. 11

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Al-back from the BigWhoop · November 5, 2001

Originally posted by Guybrush122:
Dont let them win...go about your normal life, cry over the lost, cheer over the victory. We cannot loose, we will not loose. This isnt WWII where the Nazis have most of Europe and when England and Australia and Russia were weak allies. They inhabit the middle east. WE have America (who has won most of the wars in which they engaged in) and Enland, with a wonderful navy and army, Australia: powerful, Israel: faithful. And not only that BUT the civil war in Afghan are weakening there military by the second. We will prevail. Its rashonal to fear at first, but dont let them win.

i know this is a little pessimist, but there will be no winners in this war. mainly, because we r not fighting against afghanistan, afghanistan is just in our way, u know wot i mean? even if we kill Osama, (and i know we r) terrorrism wont stop, and both afghanistan and the "allies" (ill use that expression for now) will face a long and painful way back to were they were. it will be good for us psychologically, but in the long run, this will happen... <IMG SRC="http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smilies/cwm14.gif" border=0>. i hope im wrong though

oh, and mettalus: im really curious, wot is California doing w this bridge threaten thingy? will they shut down the bridges adn stuff? i hope not, cause that will literally destroy the commerce, right?

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Metallus · November 5, 2001

Somehow, I must disagree with your optimism, Guybrush and Griswold. I don't want to sound like I'm attacking you, but I think you need to really think about how this may jeopardize any future alliance with countries in the Middle East.

In a perfect world, we could say that this band of nations would unite to defeat the enemy, but I mean, this isn't like any other war we've ever faced. We've made it much worse on ourselves by sustaining our bombing raids (and depending on guided missiles that aren't nearly 100% accurate) and assuming that we're going to bomb the Taliban into submission.

The fact remains that it's nearly impossible to bomb a people into surrender. It's only worked once in the history of major wars, and that was the dropping of the Atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I'm not afraid to say that I don't think the government is going about this in the right way. I don't have a better solution, and I don't know if there is one, but it seems almost dubious how we're trying to win over the Afghani people with food-drops, while at the same time our guided missiles are straying from their targets and killing innocent people. I'm very conflicted about the whole subject right now.

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Al-back from the BigWhoop · November 5, 2001

Originally posted by Metallus:
Somehow, I must disagree with your optimism. In a perfect world, we could say that this band of nations would unite to defeat the enemy, but I mean, this isn't like any other war we've ever faced. We've made it much worse on ourselves by sustaining our bombing raids (and depending on guided missiles that aren't nearly 100% accurate) and assuming that we're going to bomb the Taliban into submission.

The fact remains that it's nearly impossible to bomb a people into surrender. It's only worked once in the history of major wars, and that was the dropping of the Atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I'm not afraid to say that I don't think the government is going about this in the right way. I don't have a better solution, and I don't know if there is one, but it seems almost dubious how we're trying to win over the Afghani people with food-drops, while at the same time our guided missiles are straying from their targets and killing innocent people. I'm very conflicted about the whole subject right now.

agreed.

wasnt the war over when they dropped the h-bombs?

i heard in the radio the other day, this woman saying that they should attack harder in the afghanistan, and "blast them off earth" if they didnt give in Osama.

isnt that wot terrorrists do? "do wot we want or we will kill a lot of civilians"? later, i saw in tv that more than 50% of the Americans think us should destroy afghanistan. i know ppl r facing many psychological problems because of the WTC attack, i dont blame them but we gotta think. thats their advantage: we r too fragil to think.

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Metallus · November 5, 2001

oh, and mettalus: im really curious, wot is California doing w this bridge threaten thingy? will they shut down the bridges adn stuff? i hope not, cause that will literally destroy the commerce, right?

It's Metallus , and I'm not exactly sure what they're doing right now; most of the people here doubt that anything serious will happen to the bridges, but then again, I live a long way off from the Golden Gate. I think they may set up checkpoints or something for the bridges, and security is beefed up right now.

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Al-back from the BigWhoop · November 5, 2001

sorry metalus ( )

as far as i know, there are painters taht paint that brigde 24h per day. have the govt checked THEM? could be an inside job, couldnt it?

{{{sorry if this a dp, but i got a 500 error, and i cant see my message ther.}}}

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Ryback · November 5, 2001

Hmm. I've held off registering here before, but I really wanted to say something about this topic... After all, I'm Australian.

Basically, I don't think there's anything to worry about.

In fact, the Taliban probably wouldn't have "declared Holy War" on Australia if the Australian journos hadn't kept nagging at them to do so. The timeline goes like this. Three weeks ago, Australian journos asked Mullah Zaeef (the Afghan guy everyone's been quoting) whether they would declare jihad on Australia. This didn't lead anywhere.

Last week at another news conference, another journo had a second go. Mullah didn't see the question as serious: in fact, he wondered just what Australia was doing in

the Middle East in the first place. Finally, third time lucky. Jihad on Australia. Only, all Mullah Zaeef really said was that anyone who joins an alliance against us is our enemy, and we will fight them as such.

We are not under threat. There has been no indication of any terrorist strikes against Australia. Of course, the 150 Australian soldiers currently deployed are under threat, but that's to be expected, they're on enemy soil. I'm more worried about

the Australian aid workers currently under arrest in Kabul somewhere. They were due to be sentenced to death (or was it life imprisonment?) for the 'crime' of preaching Christianity. There were diplomatic moves

underway to get them out last I heard, but that was before war was declared on Afghanistan, and certainly before they declared Jihad on us, which will make getting them out even harder.

Sometimes journalists can be really irresponsible...

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Natty · November 5, 2001

I don't think the Taliban would strike Australia, but you never know, they're insaine enough as it is, so it just worries me a lil bit.

I've read different reports of why they've declared war on us, but I think it has something to do with the East Timor thing. I don't know if many of you knows what we did, but when East Timor declared they wanted to seperate from Indonesia and become their own country, Australian troops went over there to keep the peace and protect them, coz they were being killed by the Indonesian troops (whatever they're called- I can't remember) so that means, we probably would have killed many mouslims, since Indonesia has the highest population of muslims of any country. That's what I saw on the news this morning anyway. Also, since we're allied with America and are helping them. It may also have something to do with us refusing to accept illegal boat people, there's probably terrorists on those boats and they're just pissed coz they won't be allowed into the counrty now I dunno what their logic is, but they certinally need to be put into straight jackets or something.

Al? I live in Melbourne, which is the second biggest city in Australia with a population of around 4million, Sydney is the largest capital city with a population of 5million or something. Melbourne doesn't have anything worth attacking really, except maybe the Rialto Tower which is the largest building in the Southern Hemishpere. Sydney has heaps of landmarks that terrorists could attack, such as the Harbour Bridge and the opera House. Also they have a nuclear powerplant, which there is a rumor the terrorists could go after that, so it does freak me out, even though I don't live in Sydney

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Ryback · November 5, 2001

It certainly wouldn't be the illegal boat people those guys are worried about: the refugees are *fleeing* the Taliban. In fact they're probably glad we're sending them back...

I live in Bendigo, and I've spent some time in Melbourne, so I would not be happy if it were attack. But I just don't see that happening.

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Natty · November 5, 2001

I'm sure the majority of the illegal boat people are felling the region, but none of us know what the hell goes on in those guys warped minds, for all we know they could be sending terrorists here on boats, why I dunno, but anything is possible. That's what I'm trying to say, we dunno how they get here or what they're planning on doing, so we need to take and look at every possible option, and one of them is that there could be terrorists on those boats. I'm sure America never thought they'd be attacked or terrorized, and look what's happened to them. It's sad when even what appear as the safest countries like America and Australia no longer feel safe.

And for those who don't know, but you probably don't care, Bendigo is about 2hours North of Melbourne (I haven't been there in years so I can't remember how long it takes)

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Metallus · November 5, 2001

Natty, do you have an address where I could read about this? Like on some Australian news site?

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Natty · November 5, 2001

try http://www.heraldsun.com.au http://www.theage.com.au

When I read it the article was in the Breaking News section, dunno where it could have moved to now. If all else fails you could try

http://www.i7.com.au

which is one of our news stations

I gotta say these are only Victoria's newspaper websites, I dunno what the other states newspaper sites are Whooopsies, oh well, the other states news doesn't concern me

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Zero-Dai · November 5, 2001

As an australian too, I'm seriously not worried. OK, how far away is Australia from Afganistan? A loooooooong way away. Now, even though we went all the way to afganistan, we had reason to. As for the Taliban, they're playing defensively now because of all of the countries attacking them.

So, Bottom line is that the Taliban don't have the resources (seen any fighter jets being used by them lately) and don't have the need.

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Metallus · November 5, 2001

Zero, it's one thing to be optimistic, but you're generalizing. The Taliban wasn't the one to condemn Australia, Bin-Ladin was. You say that Australia is too far away from Afghanistan to be in any danger, but the first thing that pops into my head, is the distance from Afghanistan to the USA, and Bin-Ladin was able to hit it. This is a powerful, powerful organization that can and have made use of non-traditional means of destruction.

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Natty · November 5, 2001

Taliban/Bin Laden, well they're not the same thing, but they may as well be. They're both freaks who take their religion waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously, so much so they use it to destroy and use it as an excuse to kill people

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Deadmeat1587246448 · November 5, 2001

I agree Natty and i'd like to ad my opinion: religion sucks! If you "believe", better skip this, i really feel like all the religions here on earth suck! I mean, look at all the damage they cause. Just because a couple of crazy "leaders" have come up with a nice image of a god that watches them and is the best and stuff. And when ppl disagree over how the god looks like, and what his rules are: war. It happened for thousands of years. Just think of the holy wars in themedivals, or the fact that during the Spanish Inquistion (or something. Stupid word) people that werent cristian, that saw that religion is a stupid thing, were killed.

Relegion brings lots of pain and suffering. Im not saying all religion is bad, im not saying everyone who believes is a freak, im not saying it has anything to do with the terrorists, but overall i think religion has done more bad than it has done good

I rest my case..........

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Metallus · November 5, 2001

My feelings about religion are conflicted. Myself I'm an atheist, but I don't have anything against religion if those who are involved in it allow me to believe as I choose. I really think church and state need to be separated for progress to happen though. In America, I doubt if there will ever be an atheist president. Too many people would be repulsed by the idea, yet 10-20% of the population claim to be non-religous.

And now, buttons!

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November 5, 2001

I wouldn't worry. I never worry about this crap. Quite frankly, all these muslims that are doing this (at the same time giving the vast majority os Islam a bad name) can suck my ****. They're going to get blown to high hell if they think they can beat us with their small amount of followers and outdated weapons.

I don't want to sound mean but people that get too worried about these things sorta piss me off because it's highly unlikely that one of us will end up dead, 'cos:

a) these cowardly terrorists only seem to target politicians/important people

b) the fighting's going on in Afghanistan and there's very little threat to Australia because, quite frankly, Australia isn't really doing anything in the war (that I know of)

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Jack · November 5, 2001

dp, sorry!

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Jack · November 5, 2001

Originally posted by Guybrush122:
Thats how i fealt after, ya know. This is how I cope. If you die you die. Its whats meant to happen. If you panic then you are letting them win. Terrorists purpose are to strike fear into you so much that you cant function. Dont let them win...go about your normal life, cry over the lost, cheer over the victory. We cannot loose, we will not loose. This isnt WWII where the Nazis have most of Europe and when England and Australia and Russia were weak allies. They inhabit the middle east. WE have America (who has won most of the wars in which they engaged in) and Enland, with a wonderful navy and army, Australia: powerful, Israel: faithful. And not only that BUT the civil war in Afghan are weakening there military by the second. We will prevail. Its rashonal to fear at first, but dont let them win.

And don´t forget that finnish soldiers are TOUGH!!!!!!!!!!! without us ( we were a swedish minion back then) the swedes would never have been that powerful! (we were a minion not because the swedes are better soldiers, just because they had higher tech and we were an isolated people.)

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Al-back from the BigWhoop · November 5, 2001

i hate to burst your buble ppl (actually i love it ), but this isnt all about religion, most of it is political! in the mid 20th century, US imperialism left MANY ppl unhappy. 1 example of that is Chile's military govt, brought by the US to power, when many ppl were torutured and killed. im not sure wot the US did to Afghanistan, but im sure something happened. the US for many countries means oppression, and i think thats y BinLaden is attacking.

ps-mtallus, i liked the belts, mostly the dont believe everything ur told

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