Ranged Reskin

[bryzz]

i have seen a lot of model or soon will be mods that are replacing the models for different ranged weapons in k1 - which is great but model changes dont go well with big mods like bossr - i have one example (not of a ranged weaponed) i had an amazing mod that changed robe models and textures but the textures for bossr were for the originals and it ended up all scrambled so...

 

i was thinking that instead of new models for the ranged weapons someone might just make more intense high res skins for them unless someone knows for sure that there are no skins for ranged weapons in bossr and they just use the originals - then ill ask for a remodel

 

note: my override folder revolves around bossr

[Dak Drexl]

I actually was going to request this sometime. I once saw on here somewhere that someone had started it and it looked very good but the mod died... I haven't been able to find the old thread though. If I can I will post it on here as I think it's a very good example of what could be done for this mod.

[Seikan]

well, often, the new weapon models, don't replace the old ones, it just change ONE weapon(ex: mandalorian blaster rifle), so there shouldn't be any problem with the other weapons.

[bryzz]

my whole point was if the BOS:SR mod didnt have any new textures for ranged weapons then i would try to convince a few modders to start a mod that replaced all of the ranged weapons models to better ones - that are seen in the movies or other starwars games - but i know that myself and many others like BOS:SR so i dont want to do something that will make some ranged weapon in BOS:SR i dont know about look bad - if you know what i mean

[Seikan]

There shouldn't be any problem with that, and your idea is a good one, if you have some help from other moders, I would probably download it (even if I have already unique models for every weapon in game, but some extra weapons, isn't bad x))

[bryzz]

well then if there is no problem - i have some ideas for the basic blasters - and a few person specific ones

 

Blaster Pistol

 

 

Heavy Blaster Pistol

 

 

Bendak’s Pistol / Cassus Fett’s Pistol

 

 

Calo Nord’s Pistol

 

[Canderis]

http://knightsoftheoldrepublic.filefront.com/file/KOTOR_Weaponry_Improvement_Project;103817

[Seikan]

Yeah there are already a LOT of models x) for example all of those you posted a pic

[bryzz]

well i have decided that reskinning the weapons will be a whole lot easier then replacing models - but i am not very talented with gimp - in other words my textures suck...

 

so any help would be superb

[Dak Drexl]

After much searching, I found the original thread I was talking about above. This project in my opinion would have been a must-download and I would be grateful if someone would pick this up.

 

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=198127&highlight=skins

[bryzz]

this is amazing Dak it was the just what i was thinking

if i practice more with my textures i might give this a try

 

a lot of practice

 

Edit: well i down loaded and installed paint.net and have practiced doing some simple stuff to get the feel for the program

 

i want to start this but i do not model and do no have the modeling program to get a UV map like in the tutorial i was looking at so instead of downloading installing ex. i thought i would just request an image of the UV map for the original blaster carbine model

 

once i make some progress and get at least one done i will start a WIP thread

 

Note: i dont know what the size should be but as long as i make it consistant for all my ranged skins i dont think it will matter

[Dak Drexl]

First off, you should really use GIMP instead of paint.net. It's the closest thing to photoshop and IMO it's just about as good. Also, you're thinking about the wrong thing as far as a UV map I think. You don't need to re-UVmap this at all, just reskin it. The skin can be found in kotor tool along with every other skin in the game

 

Best of luck with this!

[bryzz]

i know that i dont have to reUV map it but the texture used by the game is so small and i cant tell where everything goes after i enlarge it - unless im doing something wrong

[Dak Drexl]

Nope you're doing everything totally right - you can't see what anything is because the default weapon textures for the game suck horribly. It's just all blurry. What I might do to test it out is block in different areas of the skin in different colors and test it in-game to see what everything is if you know what I mean.

[bryzz]

oh yeah thanks i never thought of doing that

 

Edit: ok my request is still here - i spent the last few hours reskining the basic blaster carbine and it looks horrible - it looks like a toy

 

i am still going to mess around for practice but i still request someone with greater skill to do it that way even while im reskining for practice i will have something to compare it to - it is hard to know what to do when all i have to start with is a grey square

[DarthParametric]

Despite what Dak said, the vanilla models really do need to be remapped first if you want to apply some decent textures to them.

 

EDIT: If you want to try and work with the existing models however, here are the K1 UV maps.

 

 

 

 

 

And to give you a bit of a start, here's a colour-coded guide to how the map of the blaster pistol is laid out:

 

[Dak Drexl]

Despite what Dak said, the vanilla models really do need to be remapped first if you want to apply some decent textures to them.

 

Eh I guess I worded that wrong. I guess I meant that while it would definitely be beneficial it wasn't entirely necessary. That's extremely helpful to anyone who might take this up though. Thanks Darth P, that's pretty awesome. I really hope someone can do this sometime.

[bryzz]

im going to start practicing with the blaster pistol because it is color coded - one question what about all of the white space - and thanks again this will be really helpful

 

Note: this is not really a request anymore so should this thread be moved by a Moderator or should i just start another thread in the basic Holowan Laboratories section to post questions as i progress?

[DarthParametric]

I guess I meant that while it would definitely be beneficial it wasn't entirely necessary.

Remapping may perhaps not be entirely necessary to do a basic reskin, but it is absolutely necessary if you want to do anything half-decent. You'll see in that thread you linked to earlier that Captain Hair quickly abandoned the notion of reskinning the vanilla models and instead started making custom models. The reason being that the vanilla models are terrible, even if you went to the trouble of remapping them.

 

My advice to anyone interested in something like this would be to start from scratch and make all new models with a decent poly count that you can map in a logical manner on a decent res texture (i.e. 1024x1024). The vanilla models are simply not worth the time and effort to try and salvage.

 

what about all of the white space

The white space is empty - there is nothing mapped there.

[bryzz]

i think im still going to stick with the original models - i dont have alot of skill but ive noticed that there is alot you can do with textures and it is the thing i know and enjoy the most

 

also did it take you long to do the color code thing because if you are willing to do the others that would be extremely helpful - a jump start

[DarthParametric]

Here are what I would think are the most commonly used models. That should cover you for a healthy portion of the weapons in the game.

 

Heavy Blaster Pistol:

 

 

Blaster Rifle:

 

 

Heavy Repeating Blaster Rifle:

 

 

(this must be one of the worst mapped models in the history of gaming)

[bryzz]

thanks again this is superb - it will be so much easier now

[Dak Drexl]

(this must be one of the worst mapped models in the history of gaming)

 

You mean all of the above?

I never realized just how bad these were until I opened them up myself... like, was bioware really that lazy? It's just a bunch of blurry crap. Would have probably looked better as flat colors. I wish you luck, bryzz.

[DarthParametric]

You mean all of the above?

Yeah pretty much, but I was specifically referring to the heavy repeating blaster rifle. The amount of overlapping polys makes it virtually unusable.