purifier Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Jae covered Michelle Bachmann under throwaway candidates. Wait-a-minute. Why would she be a "throwaway candidate"? Compared to Bachamann, even Palin and Trump are not joke candidates. Would love to see her on the ballot though, it would be interesting to see a third party candidate place second. I really don't know about her myself, but some think she would get the Huckabee votes now. So she must have some favor with the Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Bachmann makes Palin look intelligent and Trump look sane. But I'll Ms. Bachmann defend herself: ''If we took away the minimum wage — if conceivably it was gone — we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.'' ''There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.'' ''I don't know where they're going to get all this money because we're running out of rich people in this country.'' ''This is an earthquake issue. This will change our state forever. Because the immediate consequence, if gay marriage goes through, is that K-12 little children will be forced to learn that homosexuality is normal, natural and perhaps they should try it.'' ''We will talk a little bit about what has transpired in the last 18 months and would we count what has transpired into turning our country into a nation of slaves.'' ''I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence.'' “Lady Liberty and Sarah Palin are lit by the same torch.” “Carbon dioxide is natural, it is not harmful, it is a part of Earth's lifecycle. And yet we're being told that we have to reduce this natural substance, reduce the American standard of living, to create an arbitrary reduction in something that is naturally occuring in Earth." “The President of the United States will be taking a trip over to India that is expected to cost the taxpayers $200 million a day.” “I just take the Bible for what it is, I guess, and recognize that I am not a scientist, not trained to be a scientist. I'm not a deep thinker on all of this. I wish I was. I wish I was more knowledgeable, but I'm not a scientist.” ''(Gay marriage) is probably the biggest issue that will impact our state and our nation in the last, at least, thirty years. I am not understating that.'' ''I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out: Are they pro-America or anti-America?'' ''I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back.” “But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States.” Sure she will appeal to some Americans such as the tea ****** because they admire her intelligences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Bachmann/Palin 2012 go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purifier Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Bachmann makes Palin look intelligent and Trump look sane. But I'll Ms. Bachmann defend herself: Sure she will appeal to some Americans such as the tea ****** because they admire her intelligences. Yeah I see what you mean by throw-away candidate. Thanks Mimartin. Michelle Bachmann: ''If we took away the minimum wage — if conceivably it was gone — we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.'' WOW! I can't make out the logic in this statement. Don't see how that would stop unemployment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Bachmann/Palin 2012 go! I think they based a movie off of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primogen Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I believe Bachmann's point is that if you remove minimum wage laws, Corporations can start hiring people at $0.05 an hour. Presumably, she hasn't considered the reason that people -work- is so that they can eat and have a place to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 Part of the problem w/the minimum wage situation is that there are a lot of jobs that people work well past high school/college/entry level that now have come to rely on that income that would be hurt by having to take a cut. Seriously, though, no corporation in America is going to try to pay Americans $2-3/hour (never mind a sarcastic figure of 5 cents ) as a "living wage" (postions relying on tips notwithstanding) b/c virtually no one would do it. Part of the reason illegals are such a problem. IIRC, there was a raid a few years ago on a meat packing company in the midwest that collared on the order of about 1300+/- illegals, which the company quickly replaced with Americans @ a wage several $$s an hour higher. It might become necessary to peg a minimum wage to a sliding scale...much like the "progressive" tax code we now have...depending on a person's age,type of employment (ie if you're child and living at home or work in an industry or field where the profit margins are very slim, like many small businesses) or even location (living wage in NYC MUCH dif from Kansas City or Biloxi). The only other alternative is to have fewer people gainfully employed and more on some kind of govt assistance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverandbacon Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I can't see any of the current GOP frontrunners beating Obama unless he manages to make a major screwup sometime between now and elections. I'm thinking if the GOP has any intention of winning the presidency, they've got to get some new faces in the game. I've been wrong in the past though, and it's still early days. Bachmann/Palin 2012 go! Ann Coulter needs to get in on that action too, in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purifier Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I believe Bachmann's point is that if you remove minimum wage laws, Corporations can start hiring people at $0.05 an hour. Presumably, she hasn't considered the reason that people -work- is so that they can eat and have a place to sleep. Not sure your comment is even close to what she's saying there Primogen. But just for ****s and giggles, lets say your right, still...how is that gonna "virtually wipe out unemployment completely" like she's saying in her statement? There will always be unemployment, some people choose not to work for their own reasons, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Ann Coulter needs to get in on that action too, in some capacity. Done, she's secretary of state. Doesn't get more female-power than this, folks! Not sure your comment is even close to what she's saying there Primogen. But just for ****s and giggles, lets say your right, still...how is that gonna "virtually wipe out unemployment completely" like she's saying in her statement? By killing off all those sorry bastards working at $0.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Not sure your comment is even close to what she's saying there Primogen. But just for ****s and giggles, lets say your right, still...how is that gonna "virtually wipe out unemployment completely" like she's saying in her statement? There will always be unemployment, some people choose not to work for their own reasons, right? Two things. One, she probably means that the more flexibility there is in pay rates that employers can hire more people. Two, she seems at least "intelligent enough" to say virtually, recognizing that some people may not be able to work or choose not to work, but that there'd be ample jobs for almost everyone. Of course, if you drive out the illegal population, there'd be several million more jobs available for Americans. That old bit about they only take away jobs most people won't work anyway is largely BS. I've seen illegals work a range of jobs people'd take at a slightly higher wage than the illegals get (the meat packing plant, for instance). They're not all picking fruit, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purifier Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 By killing off all those sorry bastards working at $0.5. B-B-But they're about to get a raise and start make $.06 pretty soon. You gotta give them more time Sabre, you just gotta.....:eyes3: Two things. One, she probably means that the more flexibility there is in pay rates that employers can hire more people. Two, she seems at least "intelligent enough" to say virtually, recognizing that some people may not be able to work or choose not to work, but that there'd be ample jobs for almost everyone. Of course, if you drive out the illegal population, there'd be several million more jobs available for Americans. That old bit about they only take away jobs most people won't work anyway is largely BS. I've seen illegals work a range of jobs people'd take at a slightly higher wage than the illegals get (the meat packing plant, for instance). They're not all picking fruit, btw. Yeah I figured that was what she was trying to say. Just couldn't figure out her clear meaning when she use the words "virtually" and "completely" in the same sentence, when they don't exactly mean the same thing. Using the word "virtually" in a sentence, like she did, means to me: almost or nearly. But then she also said "completely" which threw my primitive mind for a loop. Anyway, I figured she had to know that it wouldn't erase unemployment completely, so if she would have left that word out of her statement, then it would have made more sense to me I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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