Guest Argath Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 The most disgusting thing I've seen yet was the footage of the people in the West Bank celebrating, dancing, and handing out candy to passers-by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kurgan Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 Watching Fox news... it seems there were eight planes involved. Two confirmed crashes for the WTC, one for the Pentagon building, and one more in Pittsburg..., all but the one in Pittsburg were reportedly hijacked. [correction: the last craft crashed in Penn, as we know was hijacked, but the passengers revolted, heroically sparing another terroist target, at the cost of their own lives. All other planes landed safely except for those four. - Kurgan ] Of the other planes, they are supposedly unaccounted for, that may or may not be hijacked/about to crash. [ They have now landed safely, thank God. ] The report of a car bomb outside the State Department was apparently just a rumor, etc. But it's definately a mess, and it's happened very quickly. Whatever it was, it had to be cooridinated very well in order to do this much damage in such a short time. Hopefully further damage can be prevented and as many lives saved as possible, if people keep their heads and be wary... Kurgan [ September 18, 2001: Message edited by: Kurgan ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.P LeChuck Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 This is a tragedy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 On WW3 Pearl Harbor brought us into WW2. I just got home from high school. All my teachers commented that this would make Pearl Harbor look like a day care center. Speaking of school I had a bomb threat at school. All the schools in my town had to be temporarily evacuated. I am soooooo pissed, I am willing to comment that I hope we fly a 747 full of H-Bombs straight at their headquarters. BTW: Last I heard, ALL personnel in each government investigation agencies(fbi,nsa,cia,etc) are going to be investigating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 They must be pretty sure who it is. Bush hasnt gone back to Washington, but back to one of the main air force bases. Here is where they will strike from if they find out who is responsible. In Britain precautions have already been made...there are to be NO flights around the capital, no private jets unless specifically authorised by the ministry of defence, the only few planes that will be allowed to fly are ones that the utmost security can be ensured. Also all british military bases around the world are on full alert. Blair said "we will stand shoulder to shoulder with our American friends". The American president has also said that the revenge will be so great that noone will ever think of doing it again. There will be no talks or negotiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Simpson Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 I've been watching CNN/BBC pretty much all day to catch all of the details. The confusion is pretty visible on all faces, and they are all asking 'Why?' and 'How?'. Details are sketchy at best, nobody seems to know much, which is understandable. Maybe the picture will be clearer in a few days. Bin Laden has also denied any knowledge of the attack, but can he be trusted? Personally I wouldn't trust a known terrorist. Bush was on a few minutes ago, saying 'We will hunt down and punish those responsible'. Hopefully they will, an act like this is not accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Krayt Tion Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 You can't be sure we know who is responsible, nor that they probably do. That's just wishful thinking. The most interesting I'm hearing now is in regards to demands for greater Human Intelligence operations against terrorists. Apparently we adopted a policy where we relied too heavily on our technical or artificial intelligence abilities instead of getting down and dirty with assassinations and such like the CIA and such used to be involved in. A former secretary of state just got on the air saying it might be necessary to not think ourselves 'above' those kind of efforts to stop terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardz Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 Some guy on BBC news said about half an hour ago that, Saddam Hussein planned on using Iraqi asylum seekers here in the UK as Human Bombs like in Israel and it is still a massive threat. If you are not aware, the UK has a massive illegal immigration problem and in theory this would be a very worrying scenario, especially as Everything important is within about a 2 mile radius in London. Man, If this sort of $hit can happen in the USA, whats gonna happen in the UK? They all hate our guts and we are mega close to them. There were pictures earlier of some Arabs laughing and Burning the Union Flag & the Stars and Stripes wardz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 That would be a big problem because it would be difficult to stop as it is an internal problem. Oh yea....bush is flying back to Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Krayt Tion Posted September 11, 2001 Share Posted September 11, 2001 this has not sunk in i'm going to go lie down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rogue15 Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 how do we know there WERE terrorists on the planes? somone could've set them on autopilot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DashRendar11587246510 Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 I don't know. The 7th World Trade Building collasped. This is terrible. I give my condolonces to the families of victims. I can't believe this. I saw an exclusive video of the plane crashing into the second tower. This is tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest digl Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 afghanistan is under attack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneCanoli Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 CNN. Watch it. Something happened there. Fire... stupid video phone. It has been confirmed that it was [/b]not a U.S. strike. And Rogue, you cannot just set a plane on auto pilot to fly into buildings. [ September 11, 2001: Message edited by: OnlyOneCanoli ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest digl Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 I think I saw it on CNN some minutes later they were saying the explosions were result of an internal civil war At this point nothing can be cofrimed or denied anyway, there are lots of contradictions on the news, maybe tomorrow or in a few days things will be clearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Anger, Hatred, and Vengeance are my obsessions. A country - wounded, hearts broken, idealism lost. Sympathies for any wronged groups have been subdued, replaced with a fiery lust for cold, hard retribution. Ahab: ...From hell's heart I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Ugh. What a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 I too have been watching this tragedy unfold all day (I just happened to be at home ill). First I'd like to offer my condolences to anyone on these forums who have connections with any of the dead/injured. This is one of the greatest tragedies I've ever witnessed in my lifetime, and if both of those towers and the Pentagon were fully occupied, I think the death toll will be catastrophic. There is nothing I can say to comfort you in your time of loss, but I just want you to know that my thoughts are with you. Personally, I believe that fourth plane that crashed was on it's way to the White House - and that someone, somehow, knew the target and managed to stop the plane before it could get there. I guess in a way that in the UK we have become a bit sensitised to terrorism, because we've lived with the IRA's campaign for many years. This tragedy has brought people worldwide back in touch with the sheer barbarism of these mass murderers. As far as I am concerned, I don't care which group of terrorists carried out these attacks. It's no good them holding up their hands and saying "We didn't do this one.", because the fact that they are terrorists proves that they have conducted their own atrocities in the past. None of these atrocities, past or present, are acceptable, IMO. They are all as bad as one another, and given the resources, all are potentially capable of what we have seen today. The whole democratic world is reeling from this, not only from the shock of such an enormous loss of life - but also economically. A news bulletin tonight suggested that UK stocks alone have plummeted by 70 billion pounds. I cannot even begin to estimate the impact on the US economy. I can see that fighting terrorism in all it's forms will become a priority - and will lead to many policy/security changes worldwide. I can only see that this tragedy will lead to a full-scale war against terrorist organisations worldwide - for no country will ever want to see the scale of this catastrophe happen in their territory in the future. The danger of this media coverage is that another terrorist group will be inspired to commit similar acts, albeit on a smaller scale. As someone on our UK news bulletins suggested - it would be extremely difficult to stop a large passenger aircraft from hitting any intended target, even with surface to air missiles - because the fallout from the destruction of the aircraft would still lead to a large number of casualties - not least the passengers on board. And then there is the huge difficulty of even identifying which aircraft pose a risk. There will be no easy solution, and I believe we have many bloody years of conflict ahead of us. If there is a God, may he have mercy on us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest digl Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 I just happened to be at home ill Me too! And I have the same time that in NY. I watched live how the second plane crahsed Im not sure where (because there are lots of TV stations talking about the tragedy)they said that the pentagon was filtering the news So we wont know what is really happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Krayt Tion Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 The president is back in Washington, his chopper just landed at the White House. He'll address the people later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 In 2 hours. 9PM EST. He looked mighty pissed off. Apparently, a senior US official was asked what type of retaliation was being planned. He commented that nothing was off the table. Then he was asked if a nuclear strike was ruled out. He replied,"I said nothing was out of the question, and that's exactly what I meant." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneCanoli Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Yes, I saw that guy. What a freakin idiot. He well knows that the US would not use a nuclear strike unless millions of American lives were at stake, like in an invasion of Japan at the end of WW2. For him to say that raises the level of paranoia another notch. Bush's speech should be interesting. But this has easily been the worst day of my life, and easily one of the worst day of American history. And if we are not careful, world history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kurgan Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Let us all hope and pray that cooler heads prevail and that this thing blows over soon... It's bad enough that so many people are dead and wounded, but we could have a major war on our hands soon. Kurgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 At this point, a major war may be the only option. If the primary suspect turns out to be Bin Laden, and the Taleban won't turn him over to us, then I fully support a declaration of war on Afganistan - a full invasion, occupation, and installation of a democratic government. Not a Vietnam-style war, mind you, but a full-scale, balls-to-the-walls, all-out war, where we fight to win, no-holds-barred. An atrocity has been commited against our country, and a heavy price will be exacted on those responsible, without mercy. Vengeance shall be their reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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