virtualoctopus Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 from rogue squadron and the general star wars universe, i expected y-wings to fly over their target, dropping bombs. however, in the gb demo, they just sit still and fire yellow blobs into it! thats ***!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Admiral Thrawn Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 It cuts down on lag and allows people with 200 mhz to be able to play the game easier. Also I don't care, I just wish they would make the bombers more powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virtualoctopus Posted October 28, 2001 Author Share Posted October 28, 2001 but y-wings look so stupid when theyre firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffdark Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 yeah...to bad bombers can shhot air either...ever tho Ywings and tie bombers have lazer canons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paladin Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 The bombs are Okay but i think they should be more powerful. Why spend 83NOVA on a peice of crap that takes 10 hours to take out a building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ReaperFett Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 it isnt a Y-Wing. It is a LIGHT Y-Wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 Yup, and even that little bomb bay upgrade in Tech Lvl 3 makes 'em a lotta more useful ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 Bombers and fighters are hard to select already The bombs are Okay but i think they should be more powerful. Why spend 83NOVA on a peice of crap that takes 10 hours to take out a building. Funny how you make it sound like you're attacking a base with only one TIE Bomber. Go in and wipe out all defense, then leave a single Bomber to destroy the rest and wonder why it takes that long . You're supposed to have a bigger army! IMO, BTW, the primary purposes of the air units must be to get to the destination fast and regardless of terrain features (forests, mountain ranges, lakes, etc. etc.), and thus be able to 1. Respond quickly to distress calls from allies. 2. Stay hidden, then move in at the "all clear" signal (you can have a Bomber wing in the middle of a large forest and no units around the forest will see them). 3. To retreat effortlessy (with other units, except from Scouts, a retreat is impossible because units do not move fast enough). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maul403 Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 you know whats sh**? when people post and complain about the same thing over and over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Admiral Thrawn Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 I still wish they would have more power, but ya I know what you mean. The empire always had cheap air units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WC_heavyarms Posted October 29, 2001 Share Posted October 29, 2001 well, it does sound like you made only one bomber. They should have capabilities to convert ships though, since they can disable vessels that would be cool to see. I have said Air needs to stay alive longer. Maybe have the towers only like that, not fortresses though. Anti-air troopers not as powerful. They should be overall more powerful. Tech 4 will probably surprise us, especially with shielded fighters And Maul, change your sig and avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PhantomMenace Posted October 29, 2001 Share Posted October 29, 2001 yeah i think we're all in for a big surprise when the full version comes out and we can hit tech level 4....i think the treubechet uints will change things a lot and i also wish bomber were the "death from above" i thought they'd be but i see that some civs like the rebels have 2 more advances to the bomber class....I think the guy above made his observation on just watching 1 bomber. ONce they get 2 more upgrades they should really start packign a whollop! Also, did you notice that bombers have a nice area of effect/ splash damage! So they hit mulitple buildings if they are built next to each other and mulitple troops that are close. Now take that with about 4 or 5 3rd level bombers and you got some serious damage dealers. I also think they shoulda gave the bombers a real weak laser to fight other air units...kinda like the laser the workers use on kaadu and such. So that they wouldnt be totally vulnerable but i guess they like balancing concept that Starcraft had with Guardians and Valkryies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darth_Nixon42 Posted October 29, 2001 Share Posted October 29, 2001 Exactly, I have read so MANY threads where people complain about air, and i think (maul has been in them all) but his point is the same as mine, its allready said a thousand times beforehand. Air units are not like the indestructable carriers/battle cruisers of starcraft, they are units used for unprepared forces, and (once upgraded) leveling bases. Some say they could be stronger, but realistically fighters could only take one missle or so before they were killed, ties a couple of lasers. So unlike SC they are not the almost unstopable "death from above" you just need some skill to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazy_dog Posted October 29, 2001 Share Posted October 29, 2001 Earlier on there was a thread about complaining about complaining. Everyone there came to an agreement that there should be no more threads about: Complaining about others complaining Complainig that this game is totally **** Saying this game is gonna rock. Please don't post any more threads like this. Personnally, I too would like to see bombers zooming around, but u can't change anything now, the game's gone gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WC_heavyarms Posted October 29, 2001 Share Posted October 29, 2001 This isn't about that. There is nothing like that. Re-read it dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maul403 Posted October 29, 2001 Share Posted October 29, 2001 amen to u nixon and why should i change my sig and avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvlos Posted October 29, 2001 Share Posted October 29, 2001 It would be stupid not to take advantage of air units especially rebels and naboo. With shields and +4armor later in the game Adv. Ywings and Adv. Xwings are an awesome force. You have all forgotten they get a bonus Vs. power cores. You can move in quick strike take out some power corese with 20-30 ships, and then their shields go down... move in the troopers.. Oh well there i go again STRATEGIZING AND STUFF!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dlayers Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 You know what's hilarious? In a game with cheats on, I built a boatload of fighters and the guy I was playing with was unable to select the units underneath the massive attack because when you tried to select the units 'under' the fighters you could only click on the fighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon_Leon Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 Sounds like a major bug to me... THAT would be a disappointment to me... having bombers block it like that. Still, if you put anti-air units on the ground, they will automatically pave a way through those bombers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazy_dog Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 Welll, I re-read it, but this still looks like one of those threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kudar Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 Originally posted by crazy_dog Welll, I re-read it, but this still looks like one of those threads. Doesn't matter, fact is that threads like this will always keep appearing! People come to forums to post their thoughts, annoyances, etc etc, now newbies aren't going to know every topic that has been covered, and rather than sifting through the drudge to see it's easier to post a topic, that way the people on the forum at that time are able to give their views and not sit in silence because somebody has already mentioned it 2 weeks ago. Would you rather they replied to a topic from a few weeks back instead? I imagine that some people in here would also be quick to jump on these people if they were to bring back an old topic and complain about old threads being dragged up. It's a no win situation, people come, they post that's life and topics will be covered over and over and over, it'll be worse when the full game is out and hordes of people descend into forums like this to say what they think. Instead of people moaning about it ignore it, if its a topic that you feel has been covered already and you are happy with the conclusions reached in the previous threads youv'e seen then don't post in the topic. Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygomaticus Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 i feel that all air units are a disappointment even stormtroopers have better attacks than them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paladin Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 Originally posted by Dagobahn Eagle Bombers and fighters are hard to select already Funny how you make it sound like you're attacking a base with only one TIE Bomber. Go in and wipe out all defense, then leave a single Bomber to destroy the rest and wonder why it takes that long . You're supposed to have a bigger army! IMO, BTW, the primary purposes of the air units must be to get to the destination fast and regardless of terrain features (forests, mountain ranges, lakes, etc. etc.), and thus be able to 1. Respond quickly to distress calls from allies. 2. Stay hidden, then move in at the "all clear" signal (you can have a Bomber wing in the middle of a large forest and no units around the forest will see them). 3. To retreat effortlessy (with other units, except from Scouts, a retreat is impossible because units do not move fast enough). I AM AN EXPERIANCED AOE2 PLAYER AND I DONT ATTACK PEOPLE WITH ONLY ONE BOMBER. I HAD 10 BOMBERS ATTACKING A MECH FACTORY AND I TOOK REALLY LONG SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH. 10x83= 830 NOVA. ITS NOT WORTH IT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porkins14 Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 bro chill. OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jediaoe Posted October 31, 2001 Share Posted October 31, 2001 get all the upgrades you can and get like 8 and they should make good work of it. You probably want ground troops or x-wings covering them they take a while but they are for rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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