Rebel Loyaltist Posted February 1, 2002 Author Share Posted February 1, 2002 Originally posted by Nute Gunray WHOA. Goth metal is different than industrial. Rammstein, for example, doesn't endorse Satan (as far as I can tell). They just instruct me to rape small children, burn things, rape my daughter, burn more things, and call me a pathetic animal all for a hideous gimmick. Blame KMFDM. The point is to you Rammstein doesn't endorse Satan but maybe to other people it might. Also I pray you're just kidding about the rape and stuff. Also who/what is KMFDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyan Farlander Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Originally posted by Rebel Loyaltist Show me one straight man who doesn't like seeing women shaking their butts, implants and little closing? Those who wish to avoid breaking the spirit of the 6th Commandment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Originally posted by Rebel Loyaltist The point is to you Rammstein doesn't endorse Satan but maybe to other people it might. Also I pray you're just kidding about the rape and stuff. Also who/what is KMFDM KMFDM: German band. heavily electronic. Rammstein songs: Weisses Fleisch: title means "pale flesh" or "white meat". about a guy raping a girl at a school Zwitter: "hermaphrodite" unknown lyrics. phrase "answer me" repeated Buck Dich: "Bend Down" figure it out on your own Tier: "Beast" or "animal" guy rapes daughter Feuer Frei!: "Fire free" guy sets self on fire Those are the only ones I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold leader Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Although those songs are about raping, I interpret Rammsteins lyrics as a condemnation and not a encouragement of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Originally posted by Rebel Loyaltist Oh yeah to anyone questioning rap lyrics go to http://www.ohhla.com and look up some lyrics. You might be suprised. best rap lyrics ever (I hope I censored everything...): Hit'em up by Tupac Intro: Tupac I ain't got no motherf***in friends That's why I f****d yo' b****, you fat motherf****r (take money) West side!! Bad Boy killers (take money) You know the realest is n****z (take money) We bring it to you (take money) Verse One: Tupac First off, f**k your b**** and the click you claim West side when we ride come equipped with game You claim to be a player but I f****d your wife We bust on Bad Boy n****z f****d for life Plus Puffy tryin ta see me weak hearts I rip Biggie Smallz and Junior M.A.F.I.A. some mark ass b*****s We keep on comin' while we runnin for ya jewels steady gunnin, keep on bustin at the fools, you know the rules Little Ceaser, go ask ya homie how I leave ya cut your young ass up, leave you in pieces, now be deceased Lil Kim, don't f*** around with real G's Quick to snatch yo' ugly ass off tha street, so f*** peace I let them n****s know it's on for life So let the West side ride tonight hahahah Bad Boy murdered on wax, and killed F*** wit' me and get ya caps peeled, you know ... see ... Chorus: Grab ya glocks, when you see Tupac Call the cops, when you see Tupac, uhh Who shot me, but ya punks didn't finish Now ya bout to feel the wrath of a menace N***A, I hit em' up... Interlude: Tupac Check this out, you muthaf***as know what time it is I don't even know why I'm on this track ya'll n***uz ain't even on my level I'm a let my little homies ride on you b***h made-ass bad boy b****es -- deal with it!! Verse Two: Get out the way yo, get out the way yo Biggie Smallz just got dropped Little Moo, pass the Mac, and let me hit him in his back Frank White need to get spanked right, for settin tracks little accident murderer, and I ain't never heard-a ya Poisinous gats attack when I'm servin ya Spank the shank ya whole style when I dank Guard your rank, cause I'ma slam you in the pavement Puffy weaker that a f****n rocka wanna do, n***a and, I'll smoke ya junior mafia in front of you, n***a With the ready power tuckin my Guess under my Eddie Bauer ya clout, pretty sour I get packages every hour and hit em up Chorus Verse Three: Tupac Peep how we do it, keep it real, it's penitentiary steel this aint no freestyle battle, all you n****z gettin killed with ya mouths open tryin to come up offa me, you in the clouds hoping smokin dope it's like a sherm high N****z think they learned to fly But they burned muthaf***a, you deserve to die Talkin bout you gettin money but its funny to me all you n****z live in worry while you're f****n with me I'm a self made milionare Thug Livin out a prison, pistols in the air, hahaha Biggie, remember when I used to let you sleep on my couch and beg the b***h to let you sleep in the house, ahh Now its all about Versacci, you copied my style Five shots couldn't drop me, I took it, and smiled Now I'm bout to set the record straight, with my AK I'm still the thug you love to hate Motherf****r, I hit em up Verse Four: I'm from N-E-W Jerz, where plenty murders occur No points to be calmer, we bringin drama to all you herbs Knuckle check the scenario, Little Cease I bring you fake G's to your knees Coppin pleas cuz this ain't your area Lil Kim, is you coked up, or doped up? Get ya lil Junior Whopper click smoked up, what the f*** is you STUPID?!?! I take money, crash and mash through Brooklyn with my click lootin, shootin and pollutin ya block with 15 shots **** glock to your knot Outlaw mafia click movin up another notch And you bast stops squaws get mopped and dropped All your fake-ass east coast props brainstormed and locked Verse Four: Youse a, beat biter, a Pac style taker I'll tell you to ya face you aint s*** but a faker Softer than Alize with a chaser Bout to get murdered for the paper Idi Amin approach the scene Write a caper, like a loc, with little ceaser in a choke hold Totin smoke, we aint no muthaf****n joke Thug Life, n****z betta be knowin, we approchin in the wide open, guns smokin no need for hopin its a battle lost, I got across Soon as the funk was poppin off N***a I hit em up Outro: Tupac Now you tell me who won I see them, they run They don't wanna see us Whole Junior M.A.F.I.A. click dressin up tryin ta be us How the f*** they gonna be the mob when we always on our job We millionaires, killin ain't fair but somebody gotta do it Oh yeah, Mobb Deep, you wanna f*** with us? You little young ass motherf*****s Don't one of you n****z got sickle cell or somethin? You f*****n with me n***a you f*** around and have a seizure or a heart-attack You better back the f*** up, fore you get smacked the f*** up That's how we do it on our side Any of you n****z from New York that wanna bring it bring it But we ain't singin, we bringin drama F*** you and your motherf****n mama We gonna kill all you motherf*****s Now when I came out I told you it was just about Biggie Then everybody had to open their mouth with a motherf****n opinion Well this how we gonna do this F*** Mobb Deep F*** Biggie F*** Bad Boy as a staff record label and as a motherf****n crew And if you wanna be down with Bad Boy Then f*** you too Chino XL, f*** you too All you motherf*****s, f*** you too (take money) (take money) Alla y'all motherf*****s, f*** you die slow motherf****r My fo'-fo' make sure all y'all kids don't grow You motherf*****s can't be us or see us We the motherf****n Thug Life ridahs West side till we die! Out here in California we warn ya we'll bomb on you motherf*****s We do our job You think you mob, n***a we the motherf****n mob Ain't nuttin but killers and the real n****z All you motherf*****s feel us Our sh*t's going triple and four-quadruple (take money) You n****z blast as our staff got guns at they motherf*****s back, you know how it is When we drop records they feel it You n****z can't feel it We the realest, F*** EM, we Bad Boy killin *echoes* I just love that song. Hey RL, maybe you can totally explain me the story behind this song (Mobb Deep and all that, but I do know the important stuff, I only need some details...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukekitty Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 man, i really didnt want to see that, how many curse words in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierce Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 I am definately too lazy to count them Jem, the thread is suppose to prove that rap isn't all that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taarkin Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 I counted 58, and that was without my glasses on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold leader Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Lousy grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Originally posted by Gold leader Although those songs are about raping, I interpret Rammsteins lyrics as a condemnation and not a encouragement of it. Indeed so. Rammstein themselves make that very statement and have said the only reason they make songs about that sort of thing is because it will get attention, and therefore free advertising. It's marketing genius I imagine the song writing process to be like this: scary man #1: ok, new idea: they're nailing me to a cross scary man#2: are you on fire? scary man #1: no scary man #3: get this: the <i>cross</i> is on fire scary man#1: SCORE! and the nails are RED HOT too. scary man #2: now we're onto something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 I don't love this song because of the cursing but because Tupac's way of singing it. As a song, it's terrific, it's propelled by a dynamic vocal performance from Tupac (awsome way of singing and expressing himself, if you only read you'll only see the curse words but if you listen, it's just amazing...must listen...you can really feal his anger and hate) Tupac had always blamed Biggie for being behind his earlier shooting (he got shot 5 times and walked out the hospital 3 hours after surgery !) and in this song, Tupac offers his reply. Tupac fully means what he's saying, he chants a mantra of hate to his enemies. BTW, about Rammstein, I heard Korn say in one of their interviews that Rammstein are crazy and that after each concert they take a piss in ther shoes and toast (yes they drink urine out of their shoes or boots or whatever...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold leader Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Are those WWII German Army boots? Now we're onto something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Uh...and messages of hate are good things to spread? You never see members of rock bands going out and killing other rock band members. The highest mortality rate among performing artists belongs to rappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 I'm not delivering a message of hate or anyrhing, just delivering my favorite rap song. The fact that it's a message of hate isn't why I like this song, as I said, I like it for the way Tupac sings it, he puts all of his energy into it. And if someone shot me 5 times I think I'd hate him. I wouldn't go to him and say "hey man, don't be sorry, don't worry...I'm sure it was an accident and you didn't mean me any harm, specially when you only shot me like 5 times, so let's be friends." And yes I do think those are WWII German Army Boots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Loyaltist Posted February 1, 2002 Author Share Posted February 1, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue Nine Uh...and messages of hate are good things to spread? You never see members of rock bands going out and killing other rock band members. The highest mortality rate among performing artists belongs to rappers. Not to spread feelings of hate but to understand what their saying and to listen to music. Again check the site for some lyrics of songs and understand what their saying. Also you may not see rockers kill one another (atleast from what I've heard) but their crowd seems to die a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 What he said. And in order to fully understand the lyrics you must know a bit of the artist's past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierce Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue Nine Uh...and messages of hate are good things to spread? You never see members of rock bands going out and killing other rock band members. The highest mortality rate among performing artists belongs to rappers. The only famous mortalities amongst rappers were Notorious BIG and Tupac, and in all music especially rock and rap there are fueds but you can't possibly say that just because there are not many rock stars killing eachother that they are not spreading hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 2, 2002 Share Posted February 2, 2002 As far as I know, Rammstein blends into the crowd after the show and hangs out there. I know a guy that saw Rammstein in Pittsburgh and after the show he saw the lead singer guy sitting on the curb outside smoking. He got one of their CDs signed by the entire band and then the Rammstein guy bought him a beer. The Rammstein guy also took the picture of the guy I know with one of the other band members because the guy's girlfriend couldn't figure out how to work the camera but the rammstein guy could. Apparently there were very nice guys. I hear Moby's nice too. He kissed one of the girls I know on the cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted February 2, 2002 Share Posted February 2, 2002 Henry Rollins (of Black Flag and the Rollins Band) is one of the nicest, quietest, shyest guys I've ever worked for. He was doing one of his spoken word show tours. He came in the stage door alone, and we were all slightly intimidated by this huge, tattooed guy we had all seen yelling, acting crazy and looking very, VERY angry in all his videos. We were all hanging out by the loading door because it was such a nice night out. He came up from the dressing room after soundcheck, he walked over to us and asked, "Do you guys mind if I hang out with you?.. If that's alright... Hey! I just made a fresh pot of coffee downstairs, please help yourself if you want any..." It was kinda weird at first, but after a while we all just started talking to him and he is a very cool, thoughtful, intellegent guy. After a while a couple of his fans coming to see the show wandered by the door and saw him hanging there, and he went out to talk to them. After the show he met and talked to everybody who hung out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Loyaltist Posted February 6, 2002 Author Share Posted February 6, 2002 So you're saying that those crazy rockers have two personalities, nice and crazy? Well why can rappers be labeled that way? Because people just choose to see on side of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Sometimes. The lead singer for Rammstein was an Olympic swimmer for the Germans, not a child molester. If what I see on TV is true, rappers were gang members. In my on going Rammstein example, Rammstein guy in concert=scary and weird. Rammstein guy having lunch at Wendy's=nice Rapper in concert=busting caps in police-cops. rapper in private life=busting caps in police-cops and saying someone else did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Loyaltist Posted February 6, 2002 Author Share Posted February 6, 2002 Originally posted by Nute Gunray Sometimes. The lead singer for Rammstein was an Olympic swimmer for the Germans, not a child molester. If what I see on TV is true, rappers were gang members. In my on going Rammstein example, Rammstein guy in concert=scary and weird. Rammstein guy having lunch at Wendy's=nice Rapper in concert=busting caps in police-cops. rapper in private life=busting caps in police-cops and saying someone else did it. Wow, two different things you got there. For Rammstein you put them eating at Wendy's which is nice. That's all cool but for rappers you put private life. Two different comparisions. A rapper going to Wendy's seems alright don't ya think? Also for the concert you put bustin caps in cops. That may be implemented in songs they don't do that. Just like the song "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor!" Also for private life you put rappers as bustin caps. Nope. Check the diary of Ja Rule a West Coast/Gangsta (He is both right Jem?) rapper. Instead of busting caps he's a kind compasionate father and a very nice person at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 you need to actually <b>pay attention</b> to reality. last thursday I just HAPPENED to see 20th Century with Mike Wallace on the History Channel and it dealt with (surprise) Tupac and Notorious B.I.G. and their CRIMINAL DEALINGS in addition to other rappers and their crimes. If some rapper says in an interview "ALL MAH SONGS ARE ABOUT MY LIFE IN THE GHETTO" and his songs are about shooting people then the logical conclusion is he shoots people. Also: you are gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tek Gunner Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 haha, he called you GAY. holy **** why dont you just KILL YOURSELF NOW AND END THE PAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nute Gunray Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Calling someone gay is like a surprise first strike. There is no retaliation. I declare myself the victor and award myself the skill upgrade of "Illogical Debating +19" and gain 50 HP. OMG I LEVELS UP. DIING LEVEL 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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