Guest GIR Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 This is very true although there are some games where you like to battle it out longer and therefore for some people it means more fun, but then blowing your opponent's brains into mush is also fun so i have no complaint about rushing. :deathstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Tirion Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Ill put it this way: If I am playing against an opponent in a serious game, I am gonna try and wipe them out as fast as I can. If I want a long game, Ill play the comps in a long battle with 4 on 4 or Ill play with some guildmates in a fun game where we just play without being that serious. I dont usually rush, but what I do is systematically take over land by my enemiy's base and close in for the kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 If the host states specifically that there will be no rush, there won't be one. Voting between the players before a game is also a good idea. If there is a favor against rushing, then don't rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GIR Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 I still stand by my comment earlier but rushing can be a very useful tactic in crippling the enemy's economy. I'm starting to think that rushing tactics are better than none because if you take TOO long the enemy will gain the upper hand so please dont flame me but i stand for rushing. (I hope that didnt sound to corny) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Tirion Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Rushing is ok in my book hehe. But the rusher usually gets hammered if his/her first rush gets erradicated. Then all their resources they spent on creating the first wave has just become worm meat and now the opponent has all their resources still. Now your base is open for a counter attack and you are going to be too busy trying to get your resources back you just lost =P So in rm, rushing is very risky. In dm, its almost a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTenor Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Like Many have said Rushing is a tactic that has always been used in RTS games. What I find however is that there are a lot of people who mis interpet what a rush actually is. Can soeone elaborate that for me? What is the defeinitions of the rush. I'm too tired to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porkins14 Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Its definitely a very good tactic, and at the same time it can come back to haunt you. If people dont think it is fun they should just put no rush on game settings. Unfortunately what we typically see is people losing to someone using a rush tactic and then complaining about it saying it is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Tirion Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Rushing cant be pinned down to one defination =P I think each person has their own interpretation as to what a rush is. Generally, imo, rushing is an early attack either with towers or mass military units or both at an early stage in the game where the opponent is hardly ready for such an attack (unless he/she knew they were going to be rushed). If the opponent does not have enough skill yet, the game will be over quickly. If they do, then they have a good chance of defeating the rush and launching a counter-attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon_Leon Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 When i know my opponent is good, i either try to defend against a rush or rush his workers myself. I don't like rushing as the be-all-end-all strategy, but it almost always slows down an opponent, leaving me to wander free with a big army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndSub Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 I always send a few Troopers in to take out all there workers......I favour a longer game, but I also favour an upper hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DinoDoc Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 I'm sorry but if you don't have adequate defense at your base to fend off an initial rush, you deserve to loose the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eets Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 That's not always true. Just because you don't have a defense doesnt mean you're not a good player. You could just be going for tons of resources, not thinking that an enemy will rush you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DinoDoc Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 You should always expect to be attacked, Eets'chula. But you're right, I guess I'm just too used to playing StarCraft and having to plan for drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GIR Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Yeah alot of players are rescource mongors so rushing will not happen often to him and he'll get used to it. Therefore knowing nothing about rush tactics. If your enemy is always eager to get started go no rules at all he will most likely rush you. Either that or he's an idiot.--- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA-Bye (Walks out of room) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazy_dog Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Depends what kind of game u want. I like long games, but if I rush my opponnent early in the game or he rushes me, we won't have nice, long battles. If u like short games (like some other people), then u rush: Attack early ---- opponent isn't prepared---- cut out the power supply and resourse proccesing facilities ---- retreat, heal/repair units, build more units---- go for the kill. As said before, I like long games, so I don't rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porkins14 Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Originally posted by Eets'chula That's not always true. Just because you don't have a defense doesnt mean you're not a good player. You could just be going for tons of resources, not thinking that an enemy will rush you. True, but a good player prepares for every sort of attack. if you dont prepare for rush, and just try to build tons of resources, you are a very one-dimensional player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eets Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Mucho Resources = Good defense and offense. Nuff sed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Tirion Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 You can gather all the resources you want in the world but that does not qualify you as a good player. Its how you spend it. And not only that, where you place your units, buildings, and towers. You can be filled with resources and pump out tons of Stormtroopers only to be shelled by your enemy who made tons of Dark Troopers or Jedi/Sith. If you place a tower too far away, your enemy can mosey right on by and wreak havoc on your workers, meanwhile all your towers are out of range because you blundered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porkins14 Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Originally posted by Eets'chula Mucho Resources = Good defense and offense. Nuff sed. Really? Its that simple?? I hope to get a chance to play you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paladin Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Workers= Resources= Army Knock workers out a soon as possible so their production of units would slow down. I would only destroy the workers, but it depends on the situation and what mood i am in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Originally posted by Dagobahn Eagle If the host states specifically that there will be no rush, there won't be one. Voting between the players before a game is also a good idea. If there is a favor against rushing, then don't rush. If you don't ever rush...what do you do??? You just SIT there...just building up your economy...this isn't a big economy game with all the frills of politics...no this is a WAR GAME. You use WAR TACTICS in a WAR GAME. A real WAR TACTIC is rushing the enemy. Sorry if you can't accept that...to bad. I'm rushing unless there is a set rule against it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Theros Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 I am not a big rushing fan. Personally I find it more enjoyable to build up slow and have big battles to determine the outcome. All of these little rush the other person to get a quick win games seem boring to me. I wonder if the rushing strategy is really just a defense for those who can't play the long game well. What do you guys think? Rushing=not as good long game skills? Just a thought! General Theros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Play Tirion and see what you think:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Theros Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Does tirion have a good long game? Or does he rush? Or both? I would love to play him but alas...the demo no longer resides on my comp. I took it off because I was afraid too much of the same thing would lessen my enjoyment of the game when it comes out. This way I havent' played too much and I'll be fresh when it ships. Besides....if this Tirion guy is as good as you say then I'm sure I can't win....since I haven't played much. Gotta pick the fights I think I can win.... That ....is the ultimate in warfare strategy.....despite any thing anyone else says...you can have an awesome offense or defense.....but if you don't pick the fights you can win....then you will lose. simple....but it works.. hehe Happy gaming! General Theros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GIR Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 I hope im not copying someone else but Rushing+Destruction=Crippled economy=Probable win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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