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I think lasers are outlawed by the Geneva convention. Some BS about causing blindness. Because it's ok to stab a guy in the gut with a bayonet and run past him as he spends the last agonizing moments of his life trying to scoop his entrails back in, but you can't shine a light in his eyes.

Come to think of it, the GenCon also regulates what body parts yo uare allowed to strike with a rifle butt.

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Energy weapons aren't covered by the Geneva Conventions. There may be treaties against energy weapons in the future. I'm surprised there isn't already considering we have treaties against space based weaponry and the use of natural disasters as a weapon.

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actaully, they have develpoed a Bipedal robot that has the ability to walk up and down stairs, sit, and do almsot everything a human can do with 2 legs except run and jump

 

only prob is it's batteries only last about 20 minutes

 

And actaulyl i think the anti air laser was installed on smaller airliner. It isn't the size of the laser that is the prob, it is the cooling units and batteries that power it.

 

The main prob with the laser is it's limited range in atmosphere, and how sceptable it is to any weather other then a clear sky.

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Originally posted by K_Kinnison

actaully, they have develpoed a Bipedal robot that has the ability to walk up and down stairs, sit, and do almsot everything a human can do with 2 legs except run and jump

 

You mean the Honda Corporation's humanoid robot P3 :

 

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Anyone else seen this baby in action? it's fascinating.

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Originally posted by Commander 598

How bout a CH-47?

 

Don;t ask me, ask the AIr Force, this is what they said in the program, that the 747 was most suitable for them.

 

 

When was the last time you saw one(bipedal)?

 

EXACTLY, if it was that cool and important and better, the US Military would codename it some cool name (like Trinity Project or Project Manhattan) and hush it up and rush it out, well, theythought of that crap ages ago and lo and behold NOTHING, so it sucks, the military knows it and people just need to let go of battletech/gundam fantasies.........

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The renovation of the Statue of Liberty was a highly classified operation where they actually turned it into a giant battlemech...

 

The new 'torch?' The latest version of the CH-47.

 

They tried to fire the thing up on 9-11, but no one had enough quarters. :D

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CH-47 "Chinook" was a twin blade helecopter used a lot in the vietnam war.

 

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The thing had a lifting capacity of over 25,000 pounds. Which means it could lift antoher CH-47 if the need arose, and It could land on water (if you rmembered to put the plugs in)

 

My dad was a flight engineer on one... he loves the "Chin-hook"

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Originally posted by Commander 598

Zoom doesn't know what a CH-47 is...

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Maximum Weight=100 Tons

Tell me something with treads that could defeat that.

I believe its about...40-60ft high.

 

I am sure I could make up something as feasible as that rediculous contraption that has treads that could win............I could a battle ship on treads as feasibly as that thing existing, and then that would lose after one broadside from the 16 inchers, so THERE

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"Stompers" liek the Mechs have a big flaw

 

Moterized mostion is not efficiant since humwans walk using a pendulum motion. it takes balance, coordiantion, and lots of mortors for a Mechanoid to "walk" smoothly and effciantly

 

Then, you ahve to make it big so it can go faster then a thing with treads or wheels.

 

I think a Good example is by watching Battle bots. in the lower weight divisions, speed is survival, hence msot of them are on wheels, and not "stompers" or treads. Stompers almsot alwlays get creamed

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Well seeing as how most of them I see have the inability to turn or are just a frame...

 

I could a battle ship on treads as feasibly as that thing existing, and then that would lose after one broadside from the 16 inchers, so THERE

 

If you could hit it because its max speed is about 50 kph and those guns aren't exactly made for close-range fire allowing for the Daishi at a distance to fire volleys of LRMs(Long-Range Missiles) or ER(Extended Range) Large Lasers while on the move with its twisting torso.

 

I met two battleships in MW4 and they had Missiles so I had to keep moving and hide behind hills to keep from getting hit.

Had they had big ass cannons like a normal ship I probably could have had a much easier time.

 

Those two ships moved kinda fast for a Battleship to...

 

 

Anyway the Daishi was one of the strongest Mechs in the game.

I would recount an urban mission in which there were several enemy Daishis and Atlases but this post is to long as it is.

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Air craft are, and will be, for a VERY LONG TIME, one of the best munitions delivery sytems for many years. Fast, menuverable (most of them) and sleek, these are the current killers of today.

 

That, and Long Range Nuclear Missles or ICBM's, or the famose CRUISE MISSLE.

 

Launchers sold seperatly, see store for details.

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Supposing that:

[*]I don't move(Ever wonder why they don't use cruise missiles to take out tank platoons?)

[*]It could hit such a small target

[*]When it came into view it wasn't destroyed with lasers(They hit almost instantly)

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I am predicting either your gonna quit or an ego bust.:D

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Dude, just give it up. Mechanized bidpedal machines are not a good weapon system. I've <b>seen</b> what 1970s era robotic produced for the military and it sucked. Sucked a lot. It may have been 30 years old, but biped robots haven't come far since.

Also:

<img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/calcm2.jpg">

 

I think your silly little robot is <i>quite</i> vulnerable to cruise missile attacks.

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It's not a matter of stationary. That missile can nail something a FOOT across. You take a 36 foot tall robot and shoot a missile at the center of it's mass. If the robot moves less than 30 feet in any direction, it WILL get hit. Also, missiles can TRACK THINGS!!@! Oh nos. That's why SHIPS traveling at 40 knots can get hit by missiles. And they're loaded with weapons (such as the Mk-2 Phalanx and the SM-2ER) that are designed to shoot down missiles. Also, that's a weapon designed to hit a BUILDING. It doesn't need to be ultra-accurate because buildings tend to be LARGE. They DO have even more accurate cruise missiles that are intended to hunt down things like tanks, which tend to be extremely fast and manueverable compared to a building.

 

If ROBOTS were a valid weapon, then we'd have them. It's that simple. Robots aren't a new idea either, so it's not like "WE JUST HAVEN'T DISCOVERED THEM YET." They're not even working on them for military applications.

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It wouldn't be that difficult to build a small rover with today's AI, strap a small thermonuclear device (available at any Russian flea market) onto it and turn it loose in the sewers several miles away from your intended target.

 

:eek:

 

Such a device would be an effective robot weapon indeed...

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Originally posted by Nute Gunray

It's not a matter of stationary. That missile can nail something a FOOT across. You take a 36 foot tall robot and shoot a missile at the center of it's mass. If the robot moves less than 30 feet in any direction, it WILL get hit. Also, missiles can TRACK THINGS!!@! Oh nos. That's why SHIPS traveling at 40 knots can get hit by missiles. And they're loaded with weapons (such as the Mk-2 Phalanx and the SM-2ER) that are designed to shoot down missiles. Also, that's a weapon designed to hit a BUILDING. It doesn't need to be ultra-accurate because buildings tend to be LARGE. They DO have even more accurate cruise missiles that are intended to hunt down things like tanks, which tend to be extremely fast and manueverable compared to a building.

 

If ROBOTS were a valid weapon, then we'd have them. It's that simple. Robots aren't a new idea either, so it's not like "WE JUST HAVEN'T DISCOVERED THEM YET." They're not even working on them for military applications.

 

 

How is a 40ft tall 100 ton Mech comparable to a 400 ton 100ft Battleship?

 

Anti-Missile rockets do not hit instantly they take time to leave the tube then track the missile then adjust its course several times before it can come close and in that time the cruise missile would possibly get by unscathed on its original beeline course given top or almost top speed. And by the time it may appear on the radar it may be moving so fast that it leaves sight from the naked eye and or the radar screen. Anti-missile systems are still a bit foggy.

Now a cruise missile has to make several course adjustments when approaching the target or mountain ranges. Give then the slowdown in speed or complete loss of fuel* it could be taken out by instant hitting lasers or dammaged beyond flight capability.

 

Also given the Daishi's strong armor it could possibly get hit or more likely hit indirectly it could survive.

 

Zoom: I like that idea. It makes me want to plug any sewer entrances near me.

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