Bad Bad bug

[Knights_Q2]

The wookiees are supposed to mine carno 5% faster. However, it turns out it's more like 60% or more faster. This has got to be changed. It does not make the wookiees so good that no one else can compete, but it gives them an unfair advantage and it needs to be patched. If anyone can get a hold of lucas arts and inform them, it would really help.

[Guest Maul403]

no its not 60% faster, its 5% faster, if it was 60% faster they would've said so

[Knights_Q2]

No, there is a bug it's about 67% faster. If it was 5% i would not be complaining.

[Guest Maul403]

lol ...yeh ok

[Guest WC_heavyarms]

It may seem like taht to you, but it ain't.

[Zygomaticus]

well 5 and 67 are really far away

how did u get to that no

if true tat is unfair and the wookies are going to becum my fv civ:))

[Guest daraddor]

Just play a game as wookies and watch your carbon collection in the third and fourth age. The difference is quite signifigant. If they don't patch it soon then multiplayer will be either wook vs. wook or they will just be banned from games.

[chrisw_30]

When i get the game i will have a look...but i think youre wrong...come on 60%?

[Knights_Q2]

Guys, I know what I'm talking about. Without any upgrades, a wookiee villager gathers 10 carbon in 5 seconds(and maybe less). Some smart people at MFO did the math and a wookiee carbon guy with no upgrades gathers one carbon in .78 seconds. Everyone else takes about 1.5-2.5 seconds(I'm not sure exactly). The wookiees can get more carbon with less workers and that's just cheap.

[Guest WC_heavyarms]

if you calculate that time, you are wacked! And, I don't care, I don't play RM's, but I'll have a look anyway.

[Dvlos]

if you fully upgrade the carbon, and add to that the wookie bonus, to every one of your carbon drones, thats a alot of carbon.

 

I have played tech4 wookies, they are fast, but its not insane, its like when you play rebels I always end up having lots and lots of food.

[Guest WC_heavyarms]

You know knights, you could complain about every civ's speedy bonus. You could complain about the rebels' food, or the TF's ore, or the Wookie's carbon. Leave it at that!

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Here's how to end this discussion:

 

5% is so much more than you think. I know it looks like 60% more when you look at the workers, but it's not.

 

Do this:

1. Start a recorded game with only a worker, a forest or another large carbon source, and a carbon processing plant (custom map).

 

2. Have the Wookie start mining.

 

3. After 10 minutes, come back to the computer and see how much carbon you have.

 

4. Record this number.

 

5. Go into the scenario editor again and change the civ to a civ that gathers carbon at a normal rate (don't try using TF as they get a penalty). Don't change anything else.

 

6. Repeat 2-4.

 

7. Compare the numbers. If you're any good at math, you'll now have the total % difference.

 

And that ought to solve it .

[Knights_Q2]

I'm not an idiot. The guys over at MFO(who know what they are talking about) calculated it, not me. So u can argue with them. They wookiees' bonus is NOT just 5% and it needs to be fixed.

[Paragon_Leon]

Let's get one thing clear: these kind of things encourage an active community and enthusiasm over the game, so try not to downplay people who take to discovering these things, ok ?

 

That said, carbon is very important early on in the game, so the Wookiees seem to be the ultimate 'rush-civ' with that bonus..

[Guest WC_heavyarms]

Hey leon, they get it at tech level 3, not one or two.

[Paragon_Leon]

So it's a researcheable feature then ?

That still makes them very powerful for tower-rushes or something like that.. Carbon is widely available in the game and can be trades for ore, etc. It seems to me that this makes Wookiees one of the most powerful civs in the end..

[Guest WC_heavyarms]

It's like the goths. It just happens in the feudal age when you get there.

[Guest Lord Tirion]

I played Wookies in rms and their carbon flies right from the beginning. In Tech 1 alone I had over 1000 carbon in what usually I have like 300 when I tech with other civs. I do not know about 60 percent or so but they do seem to collect carbon at an incredible rate. I usually play DM but I play some rm as well and everytime I played RM, who ever played the Wookies seemed to dominate the game from the get go. If you ran out of resources, all you had to do was go to your spaceport and sell your extra carbon for whatever resource you needed.

[Guest WC_heavyarms]

When I played you and your partner was wookie, Tirion, he had a lot of trouble handling me! And anyway, getting higher on the tech tree, more things cost nova, like planes, unique units, and assault mechs. Those things also effect their ability. Also, most units cost lots of carbon.

[Guest Lord Tirion]

I was talking about rm, not dm in my post above =P

[Guest WC_heavyarms]

Is there someone that does exceptional in nova collecting? There is a civ for ore and food.

[AoErat]

It very likely is a bug. 5% is a reasonable bonus, but 60% means you are really getting 16 carbon in the time it takes to get 10. That is a big difference, and obviously a bug.

[Guest kennymaster]

i agree with aoerat

[KnightlyJedi]

KNIGHTS Q2 is EXACTLY right...get it through your thick heads plz!! this is not a COMPLAINT but a BUG, an ERROR in the game...the wookies DO have a 65% bonus INSTEAD of a 5% bonus, this bring forth a HUGE gameplay balance...

 

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once again, i repeat...THE WOOKIEE CIV HAS A BUG!! THEY GATHER CARBON A LOT FASTER THAN THEIR SUPPOSED 5%