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sithlord-II

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Evan Nash Newbie

Evan Nash

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Glad this is a model rather than a skin.

 

I worry tho that Raven won't release the tooks for another week or more.

 

What pictures are you using for reference? Basically, the HELMUT makes Darth Vader look good. I recommend pictures from Return of the Jedi.

 

Helpful criticism...I think his head is a BIT too high.

 

Good work tho!! Are you planning on doing a cape? His "skirt" looking thing would be PERFECT as well!

sithlord-II Newbie

sithlord-II

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thank you for the reply Nash, good suggestions

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I'm using a few different sources, some from the vhs box set art, viewing the trilogy every few days, and i have the program Behind the Magic which has some decent shots

about the head being too high, i'm trying to figure out how to fix that up but i need to get me some more reference images

i do want to do a cape, as for how it will be done, i'll just have to wait and see when the tools are actually out

Perhaps we'll have to ask the guys at Raven if it will be possible for capes to be added to models?

Evan Nash Newbie

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The pics you're using I believe is the one from 'A New Hope'.

 

My LEAST favorite Vader costume if you ask me. The helmut looked really odd in that movie.

 

Use the helmut from either Empire or Jedi and you're golden.

 

Go here: http://www.sirstevesguide.com

 

He has TONS of pics of Star Wars figures. Check out the ones for Vader. Lots of good shots. It's all in the Picture Archive.

 

This is a new model tho right? not a skin?

ewi770 Newbie

ewi770

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SithLord...

 

What program are you using to make your niiiiffttyyy model?

 

It looks like it could me 3D max...perhaps Lightwave...maybe even Bryce...Its hard to say : )

 

Anyways Ive always been good at 3d apps so I wouldn't mind trying to create a few models...but before I do I would want to figure out which app is best to use for jK2.

sithlord-II Newbie

sithlord-II

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for behind the magic, i don't believe there were any blueprints, i'll have to take alook on the disc again, it does have some design sketches on the disc

i used 3d studio max 3 for the model, and i think i know why the model looks a bit thin - the angle isn't that great and the image is squashed horizontally from the perspective render of 512x512

here are a few better images....

vader_persp.txt

vader_front.txt

the helmet does need to be a bit more flared, but i think the facemask is about right, i'll compare it to some images i have kicking around

i'll be sure to check in here and see what u guys think about what needs to be changed, etc

any help is definitely appreciated - thank you for the site Nash i'm checking it out now

:)

FWB Newbie

FWB

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Looking good, I'd only suggest that perhaps the helmet should be reduced in height a tad. It looks like it is sitting on his head, rather than attached to it, if you know what I mean.

Evan Nash Newbie

Evan Nash

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Helmut height is the main thing.

 

Vader is basically all black and the cape covers a LOT of him.

 

One thing you got to TRY and do is the cloak "skirt" he wears around his waist.

 

Helmet is really the hardest part.

Skellington Newbie

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...I've got full blueprints of the helmet if you want them, including proper paint scheme (yes, there is a paint scheme for Vader's armor, black and gun metal). Accurate to the Jedi costume, I think, although personally, I prefer the Empire version. Sir Steves' is a decent site for toys, but there are MUCH better resources for Vader out there :)

sithlord-II Newbie

sithlord-II

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right now the helmet is still a seperate part from the face so it can be easily moved in that way

and skellington, any information would be most appreciated

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like i said, anything that can help me would be great, i'm still looking for good source images to work from, instead of stills from the movie or just frontal images

Evan Nash Newbie

Evan Nash

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Perfect drawing. You even got the "skirt" thing!

 

Wahoo!

 

Just make the head a LITTLE bigger to match the rest of the body and it's 100% perfect.

 

Very nice!

Valdarious Newbie

Valdarious

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Why dont you try a costum shop or an online one? I had a friend that used to have a Darth Vader costum and it looked amazingly real, it was even in 2 pieces to put together. It wasnt one of those cheap 4 dollar though I know that.

Chanke4252 Newbie

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is it me or does the nose look a bit off. Looks too much like a michael jackson nose job and not enough like a Darth Vader one. But the rest of it is AWSOME. GJ so far.

Skellington Newbie

Skellington

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It just registered with me...you're using Max?

 

 

http://www.theforce.net/scifi3d/starwars/characters.htm

 

Go get the Vader mesh...it's not bad. The helmet needs some work, but it's a good start for reference. Also...

 

 

http://www.vadermaker.com/

 

Costuming site devoted to reproducing the costume...look at the helmet section for a paint guide.

 

I just found my blueprints from the Riddell minature helmet...only a full version from the front, the side elevation plan is MINUS the "helmet" part (as oppsoed to the "mask" section of the whole piece. It'll show you a profile of what the face looks like at least. Gotta get my scanner up and running, then I'll send my stuff along to you.

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