Assault3000 Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I have noticed from many posts that you people dont like Kyle very much. Whats wrong with him? Sure in outcast he sounds like he has lung cancer but theres nothing wrong with him. If it's because hes not in the movies that shouldnt matter, the movies are boring to begin with. Do you like or hate Kyle? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbatkllr Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 The movies are boring to begin with? You're in the JK2 forums dude, you want the Elite Force forums...Seriously though if you think the SW movies are boring, what are you doing with this game? And some people are tired of Kyle because we've had so many adventures with him, we'd think it'd be nice to play as a new character. Same gameplay, I just think many of us would rather play as a classic Jedi Knight rather than "some guy with a lightsaber" as someone else put it. Nothing's wrong with Kyle, we just need a new character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kataarn Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I like Kyle. If I was in the Star Wars universe, he's exactly what I'd want to be, well, pretty close anyway. I mean, being a mercenary Jedi, you can't get much cooler than that He's rich, (or should be pretty damn close), can use the force, has a lightsaber, a dope-a$$ ship, (I was gonna say hot woman, but Jan isn't all that hot), and a cool job. I like him. Of course, if I was in the SW universe, I'd have a stolen TIE Defender, personal Assault Frigate, and I'd have a different colour lightsaber. But that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechstra Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I like Katarn. He's the sorta character that fits in with SW. He's got depth, weaknesses, strengths, and he generally is cool. But I think this should be his last game, after the inevitable expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue74 Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I don't think anything is wrong with the character. In fact he actually got smarter in this game because he decided that this time when Dark Jedi are terrorizing the universe that it might be a good idea to tell Luke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grets Sirob Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Nothing is wrong with Kyle. Absoloutly nothing. Some people are saying that the expansion should be about Episode II. But if you ask me, Dark Forces is just not Dark Forces without Kyle. They will make Ep II games, they just can't call it Jedi Knight. Well that's my opinion so if you don't like it, live with it! *Prepares flame-proof suit* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demolisher Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Now me, I never played the original games, except the JK1 and MotS demos, but Kyle seems cool. He's like a Han Solo jedi sorta character I think. I just wish Raven had put him in his black outfit, like the skins that are available, instead of the one he has no. I mean Luke wears black, so I don't see why good lightside Kyle can't . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assault3000 Posted April 19, 2002 Author Share Posted April 19, 2002 Originally posted by Assault3000 I have noticed from many posts that you people dont like Kyle very much. Whats wrong with him? Sure in outcast he sounds like he has lung cancer but theres nothing wrong with him. If it's because hes not in the movies that shouldnt matter, the movies are boring to begin with. Do you like or hate Kyle? Why? I CANT STAND Star Trek I dont want to even think about trying Elite Force. The reason I think the movies are boring is because its mostly talking, and more talking, fight scene, talking, talking, fight scene, talking, end. If they had a little bit more fighting in the movies they would be a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forhekset Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I like Kyle from the DF game the best....the quimby actor who played him in the JK cutscenes nearly ruined the character for me, though. The beard sucks IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kataarn Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Well Assault, I hate to break it to you, but they were actually trying to make MOVIES, not an action flick. I finally understand the fundemental reason why nothing other than a Drama ever wins any oscars. Why? Because apparently, Drama is art, and everything else is entertainment. Hence, they were trying to make a real movie, which involves talking (horrors!), and quite a bit of it. If they were actually trying to make an action flick (Ep 1.), they would've had more fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechstra Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Heh, if you think the Star Wars films don't have enough action in them, then you must be one of those people who live on violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbatkllr Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I hate Star Trek too, that's why I said what I said because your complaints about the movies being too boring actually should be posted in a Star Trek Forum. Now if you think SW doesn't have enough action, then yes you must've loved that god awful MI:2...*shutters*...You can't just put a bunch of people on screen and just make them start fighting. You need character development, a good story, and depth. 2 hours of pure action (MI:2) sucks. of course you could have ADD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assault3000 Posted April 20, 2002 Author Share Posted April 20, 2002 I dont live on violence. I just think the Star Wars movies need a LITTLE more action. I dont mean 100% action like Predator. Star Wars comes from story I know and at gamefaqs.com it was outdone by final fantasy (I dont like final fantasy very much the only one I liked was 7) which was odd. But if it had a little more action it may have won that little poll of SW versus FF. It lost by a few thousend votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kataarn Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 Who cares about a poll of SW vs FF? FF is a game based world, SW is a movie based world, I hardly see how one could possibly think to poll them against each other. Besides, I think a LOT more people have consoles than PCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 Hmmm i been away for a while nowa, and i think i mighta have to be a settinga few things a straighta! Generally, kyle is a cool character, a mercenary with force powers who ahsl ittle respect and has a little more ass kicking talent than most. the scenes they put him in don't suit his character too well. and i know i used to be getting balled at for comparing things to other crappy things but there's no need to compare it to FF or ST... so jsut keep it at that.. no one hates him, they just hate him for thel ines they put in his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assault3000 Posted April 20, 2002 Author Share Posted April 20, 2002 What we need is a stormtrooper versus nazi poll. Yes that shall be my next topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Droid Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 The guy who played Kyle in Jedi Knight was awesome, I was ticked they didn't do live action cut scenes for this one. and someone tell me why the yoda ripoff gets it's own smiley?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbydrmmr Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 I like Kyle. I agree that we have had many adventures with him, but this game is still awesome with Kyle. After this, he should not be the main character of another game. Maybe he could be integrated into a future Star Wars game kinda like Luke is integrated into this one. I also kinda wish that had done the live cutscenes in this one too. I bet they could have been really awesome. but, I like the "animated" ones that they used.....The lips movement is a little *Cough* rough *Cough* , but it is still cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACGe0rge Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 I like Kyle, I like Star Wars, I like Star Trek, so I guess I like just about everything. I even liked (or at least had no problem with) the cutscenes. I do think any sequel should use a different character cause I like the idea of slowly learning the force powers and it would be dumb if they found a reason for Kyle to lost his force powers AGAIN. I think it would be cool if they made JK3 where you could fall to the dark side. Not like JK1/DF2 where you played the same levels just with different force powers. I think it would be cool if the game really branched if you fell and you would play different maps with different objectives. They could even make the primary character look different with different clothes and a red lightsaber if he became a dark jedi. Anyone else like this idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 I think it's an awesome idea, it would make for very interesting gameplay, but would it really be a Jedi Knight Game if he wasn't involved? I think it would be cool if you were anapprentice of his (kind of like MotS, except he doesn't go to the Dark Side and there's an actualy plot). When you go to the Dark Side you could slay him in an awesome battle, and maybe in the end of the Dark Side storyline you fight some awesome Light Jedi (aka Luke Skywalker lol) and as a boss you have to fight him to a certain point and then it goes to a cutscene and he kills you. I think that would be a somewhat original thing to do, and rather cool (obviously you could go to the light side, but I think Kyle should still die, and offer advice as a Jedi ghost). Just some more idea's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionMrSocks Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 What's wrong with Kyle? He has terrible posture. And a surly attitude. And needs to shave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 Originally posted by Mechstra I like Katarn. He's the sorta character that fits in with SW. He's got depth, weaknesses, strengths, and he generally is cool. But I think this should be his last game, after the inevitable expansion. unless the expansion was mots style..... and was played from SOMEONE ELSE'S perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 I like Vestril's idea. Maybe Kyle wouldn't just go Dark, but go Sith! Man, that'd be awesome, playing as an old-style Sith! One of the missions could be going to Korriban to retrieve some ancient Sith artifacts or scrolls or something, and you'd get to fight against those skeleton warriors from the Dark Lords of the Sith comics! And those devildogs, too! And they could let you choose your own ending. Luke doesn't kill you, he spares your life in a cutscene, then turns to walk away, and you can either choose to walk away, too, or try to hack at his back and he spins around and kills you (like what Kyle did to Jerec). I would so love that game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 What's wrong with Kyle? He has terrible posture. And a surly attitude. And needs to shave. Actually his posture is typical of a gunslingers...easier to get the gun, I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star ReaVeR Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Kyle Katarn.... his voice is kinda funny, the beard makes him even funnier, he isn't a cool character, but he is realistic, he isn't mr brad pitt or something, he is a normal man, and that makes him a good character, anyway he looks cooler then Luke in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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