Deboze Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Damnit! I just played a game with someone who would do no other moves other than the 1-hit unblockable heavy swing. Is there any way to get around this whore of a move? When I try to run behind them I mysteriously die. What's goin on? DAMN THEM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBaron Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Try to force push them while they do it then saber them while there on the floor...it always works for me...if they use the same tactic over and over, why cant you work around it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidPlatypus Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 try to get as far away from him as possible, but still being able to land a medium overhead. If they keep whoring it and you're really safe about not getting too close you will hit them eventually. You can also try doing a heavy standing overhead, pressing it as he's in air, and turning to face him as he hits ground. The extra range of heavy stance helps stay safe. That requires some good timing though, but its worth it if you pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJackal Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 counter mesures: force push: no explinations needed roll: either away from him or under him. If you roll under him you can get the chance to attack him while he's open. sidestep: perfect if you have light stance. side step and smake him while he's on the ground. it's easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obijonkenobi Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Telling people how to evade red stance moves is bad as then they can't whinge and complain anymore! Ah who am I kidding, they would just find something else to whinge about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyJAllTheWay Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 One-hit wonders are for Newbs. N00b it up, as I say. They are equivalent to the drain/heal whores and about as lame as the drain followed by grip losers. Seriously, the one-hit wonder requires no skill. The people run around hoping that someone runs into the saber AFTER the saber move has been completed and into the ground for a while. How is there any skill involved when a person constantly uses one move attempting to get lucky with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Third Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Im a fan of the DFA move but i dont whore it... unless im pissed off or tryng to get our flag back. Saying it requires no skill means that Guns practically shoot for themselves. Guns are the real no skill. Although i found that sniping all though looking easy is hard because of the fast pace of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzzA Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 While it may slightly annoy me when people only use one move sometimes, I don't let it piss me off or anything like that. I find a way to work around it and that usually stops them. If you just let them DFA you every time, then you're just encouraging them to continue spammin the DFA move. Just remember that this is just a game, and we can't tell people how they are allowed to play. Unless they're cheating or utilizing some unfair disadvantage that you can't counter (that doesn't mean when you can't block it), then you can't complain. Because they are free to play however they want. But it's nothing to get all pissed off about. To me it's more annoying when people come here and spam the forums with "I hate teh n00bs and their DFA n00b moves!!!!111". Just let it be and try to remember that this is just a game, and you're letting someone halfway around the world piss you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raynaga Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Jesus CHRIST will someone enable the search function so we can stop having 50 billion posts on the same topics?! --R-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0th1ng Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 you can also throw your saber at them after they missed you on the special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK_Morovski Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 One-hit wonders are for Newbs. N00b it up, as I say. They are equivalent to the drain/heal whores and about as lame as the drain followed by grip losers. Seriously, the one-hit wonder requires no skill. wow thats the majority of a sabers/force game u listed there! what powers/moves will you allow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-tecc Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by DannyJAllTheWay One-hit wonders are for Newbs. N00b it up, as I say. They are equivalent to the drain/heal whores and about as lame as the drain followed by grip losers. Seriously, the one-hit wonder requires no skill. The people run around hoping that someone runs into the saber AFTER the saber move has been completed and into the ground for a while. How is there any skill involved when a person constantly uses one move attempting to get lucky with it? If you complain about a move like this, it must almost mean that you have trouble when people use it against you, and calling them N00b's ... well ... isn't that saying that you have trouble defeating N00b's?? Same goes for people drain/griping you... why complain? If there is no skill to it, why don't you, who are so skillful just crush that person and stop complaining? If I use this move, I usually succeed in the first or second attempt, so its not luck. Like someone said before what takes more skill? Hitting precise blows with the heavy stance or running around with the light/medium stance like an headless chicken? I'm not here to bitch about light/medium stance, every knight finds his or hers own style of combat. In my opinion: No stance is better then the other, it's just a mather of prefrence. I'm just tired of hearing people whine every time they cant win over someone, and declare there style as crap ... makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nill the Mean Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 I think I have done the DFA move in multiplayer about 6 times since I bought the game. I can't remember ever having missed with it those times either. The people I attacked didn't even frickin' dodge it. AND DFA IS SO EASY TO DODGE. YOU CAN SEE IT COMING A MILE AWAY! When someone spams DFA against me, I think: goody, an easy kill. It takes them forever to get up afterwards which leaves you with more than enough time to kill him in return. So far I have not played against more than two people who actually pay attention to what their enemy is doing. Everyone else sort of runs around waving their saber at empty space. STOP RUNNING! Just stand still, look at your enemy, when he jumps towards you, you sidestep him. Don't run all the time, you'll never land a hit and your constant moving will turn the game into random saber swinging. I have had lots of compliments about my playing style and even people who said they were placing "bets" on me in a duel server. YET I HARDLY EVER USE GRIP/DRAIN/HEAL/GUNS/DFA/LIGHTNING. I use the saber in MEDIUM-STANCE, push and pull. And anyone who uses only guns, only drain/grip, only DFA are totally dead against me. If you are complaining about any of the moves I mentioned above: PRACTICE MORE. It is them being lame and you playing too retarded to beat someone with only ONE TACTIC. He uses one bloody tactic against you and you can't even find a way around it, pathetic. Saber off in FFA = Stupid. You wanna duel? Then challenge someone to it so no-one can bother you. Or go to a duel server. It is THAT simple. There are too many people who obviously can't play this game right and just resort to whinging instead. You think that will help? PLAY MORE JK2, that will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teir Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Not hard to avoid getting hit from that move, only thing that need to change is when HE or SHE hit the ground ONE SHOULDNT DIE walking over the saber as its on the GROUND!!! thats what is annoying........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Vegas Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 I agree fully, tonight a guy was DFA on heavy everyone, people were real mad, I was at first but WTF it's a valid move, it took me 7 or 8 duels to learn to counter and kill, but so what, just be patient and learn, I like to run and duck when they do it, they never hit you unless you mess up, every move has it's weakness. I hated saber duels till I practiced like 30 hours and now it's a ball, I haven't shot a gun yet, and as for force powers to counter the forward slice on heavy, WTF you don't need force powers to counter it, you'll never leaen to saber with powers, first learn to saber before you work on the powers, Just my opinion. Sure its fun to lighning grip drain but if you are a lamer at saber WTF fun is that? Might as well put away sabers and force each other to death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nill the Mean Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 THEN DON'T WALK OVER IT! Who in his right mind would stand in front of DFA or even walk over his saber? It's like hurling yourself off a cliff or flinging yourself onto your enemies sword. It's just not the smart thing to do. SO GET SMARTER!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creamy Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 this happened to me an hour ago here is a short description of the duel: one hit move guy: DFA me:force push one hit move guy: DFA me:force push one hit move guy: DFA me:force push one hit move guy: DFA me:force push one hit move guy: DFA me:force push one hit move guy: hey cant we play without force?? me: if u stop doing the same move over and over again i´ll stop pushing u!! thats what happened and i find it hilarious he stoped doing dfa and we actually had a good duel½ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teir Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by Nill the Mean THEN DON'T WALK OVER IT! Who in his right mind would stand in front of DFA or even walk over his saber? It's like hurling yourself off a cliff or flinging yourself onto your enemies sword. It's just not the smart thing to do. SO GET SMARTER!!! Awww, what...... I dont usely walk over it, its when he or she hit the ground i make my move, but sometimes just as they have hit the ground they move the saber around and as its on the ground u trip on it an die, its wrong!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Why not fix the collision detection, nothing worse than watching the infamous DFA move miss you quite easily and somehow it says you are dead..... Help us poor modem players with the prediction model.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasamBladefire Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Wait till they whore it one more time, and then as soon as he is about to land, do it on him yourself, bang bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HertogJan Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 The move is VERY easy to dodge in most cases... But that's not my problem. The problem is that it is still lethal when the trick is over! And ok, you say I should attack from the back, but hey, what if they turn around so they keep facing you?!! It's nearly impossible for me! The only times you can hurt someone after he's done a DFA (what does it stand for, DFA?! ) is from above.. To do the medium stance 'death from above' you have to be close and guess what; you can't come to close! So you have to jump over them and hit down, but it's hard to land strikes on them while jumping... If Raven fixes the collision problem, it's okay with me, they can spam whatever they want... All I can do for now, is push them away or roll away, and hope that they will get tired of not hitting me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic_series Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 easiest way is just to sabre throw. keep doing it and they'll never do it to you again. dying a couple of hundred times really does teach the lamer using DFA = lamered to death by sabre throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Sharky Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Just wait until they're on the ground after the jump and go over and hit them. This is what I do and I only get hit by the saber in the ground a tiny amount and when they see that I'm not getting hit they usually stop doing it. I think the trick is to get a quick hit off and that seems to cancel the DFA effect. Not sure though, I may jusy be lucky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith knight Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Push and saber throw are good against DFA, then what about pull? Does anyone try to pull someone starting DFA? Though sound very dangerous but may be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HertogJan Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by arctic_series easiest way is just to sabre throw. keep doing it and they'll never do it to you again. dying a couple of hundred times really does teach the lamer using DFA = lamered to death by sabre throw I fight non-force duels 90% of the time, so that isn't a good option for me... And it may be me, but they ALWAYS kill me when I try to attack from behind/the sides after a DFA... Really, Raven should fix that hitbox/collision/whatever issue and of course fix drain and this game will be perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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