AoErat Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 Lately I've been thinking about a good way to set up a sort of SWGB League. This is my "design doc", if you want to call it that. I am open to suggestions, comments, and criticism. This idea is still being formed, so there are no set things that *have* to be done, etc. SWGB Gaming League: Galactic Supremacy <<------------------------------------------------------->> I. Premise ---------- Six Factions are arranged equally on a 12x10 grid, each controlling 20 spaces. Each faction's goal is to control the galaxy (grid). The purpose of the league is a dual one: First, to provide a competitive atmosphere, and a common goal, and second, a player-matching service. The basic grid layout at the start of the league: Red: Rebellion Blue: Empire Tan: Trade Federation Light Green: Gungans Dark Green: Wookies Aqua: Royal Naboo II. Objective ------------- The objective of Galactic Supremacy is to conquer each of your faction's five (5) rivals. This is accomplished by attacking adjacent, enemy-occupied spaces. To determine the winner of each conflict, a multiplayer game of SWGB is played. III. Battles ------------ Battles are planned and carried out as follows: a) Select a opposing, bordering territory to attack. This places a "challenge" to the opposing team. Other members of your faction can join you on your challenge. The number of challengees is limited to the number of sector sides that face the enemy faction. The most would be four (4). b) Someone on the other team will take up your challenge. If there is more than one (1) challengee, an equal number of players on the other team must take up the challenge. This makes for 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4 games. Challenges can only be accepted if the other player is within your skill level. Skill levels are calculated by your ratio of wins to losses. This insures fair, competitive games. c) A game of SWGB is played to determine the winner(s) of the conflict. d) The winning faction occupies the sector. IV. Game -------- Game rules and procedure are as follows: a) All players must agree on the map type to play on. If no agreement can be met, the map type [default] must be used. b) Game must be recorded. c) A/The winner submits results to website, and the loser verifies the claim. If the winner is disputed, refer to recorded game. If no recorded game available, the match is replayed. d) Games are played over TCP/IP or whatever built-in multiplayer system is included. V. Joining ---------- Each player registers with the league, and enters some information: Username, Password, E-mail, Play Times (when the best time is for you to play.), and Other Information. Then, the player can join any of the factions. A recommendation is given to join the faction with the least members. VI. Other --------- - Player skill levels are determinded by a wins/losses ratio, and allowable games are dictated by that. - According to skill level, ranks are determined. They are as follows: 1. Ensign 2. Officer 3. Lieutentant 4. Captain 5. Commander 6. Admiral 7. Grand Admiral - Players may only set forth one (1) challenge at a time. It can be recalled and recast at any time prior to an enemy accepting the challenge. - Sectors are referred to by their grid coordinates. Alphabetical along the X-axis, and numerical along the Y-axis. (example: Sector A-7) ----end doc Anyway, that's about it. There are some additional questions for you, though: 1. Is it to complicated? If so, how? 2. Is it not complicated enough? If so, how can it be improved? 3. Would you be interested in participating in such a league? 4. Any other suggestions, comments, and/or criticsm. Thanks, ~ AoErat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clefo Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 Originally posted by AoErat Anyway, that's about it. There are some additional questions for you, though: 1. Is it to complicated? If so, how? 2. Is to not complicated enough? If so, how can it be improved? 3. Would you be interested in participating in such a league? 4. Any other suggestions, comments, and/or criticsm. Thanks, ~ AoErat To answer: 1. Not really, no. I can dig it. 2. The system itself is fine... 3. Sure 4. Yeah: Shouldn't Factions be able to ally with each other? That would make it much more interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazy_dog Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 Hmmm... about the critism/ideas thing..., you could have map(s0 for every territory, going back to conquered maps to build structures/units amy be an idea, setting it in a time period with certain events/ civs are available. I mean Naboo vs Allieance is really . can you also have hero/character units as well. Hey, just an idea, how about mixing in my Scenario with your game? (I keep saying this to everyone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tie Guy Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 looks fun, i'll consider doing it. One question, wouldn't this game take a very long time. Maybe you should shrink the grid, or maybe i'm wrong, i've never done one of these before. Also, i think that you should be able to to ally, then you could have 2 v 2 battles, or even 4 v 4 battles, and it would be much more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord JayVizIon Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 a question i have is that you mentioned players of the same level can only attack each other. i don't know about you, but in the zone, most of the time advanced aok players only like playing other advanced players, and the same goes for rookies. therefore, why would an ensign want to enlist in a game where grand admirals are playing? on a 12 X 10 map, wouldn't that be a long game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booya2020 Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 I think its a good idea so far. An idea for it would be to play it for a week and then decide who the winnin faction is by who has the most territory. It would be qicker that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_MASTA Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 ok im deffinately in but i think the zone is much easier to play on than ip so lets play it there ..... each faction shoud have a tourney before the start of the game to decide rank also the grand admiral of your faction should have control over who goes into the game to play as long as rank is the same as the opposing players this would make a good game i think certain squares should be qualified as planets with certain map types for each square allready assigned this way it would be easier to decide on a map well thats about all i can think of but ill certainly play do we have any volunteers for making up a tourney to decide rank there should probably be like 20 players in a faction that way you would have more ensigns than grand admirals so u only have one or two leaders and everybody has a superior player if u tell me how many players we can get for each faction i guess i could make up a tourney or someone else because im not going to have tons of time in the next few weeks but ill deffinately help you chould also be able to have allies with different factions so if somebody dosent show up for a game u could use a player from an allied faction to play in his/her place well thats about it for now giv me some ideas and ill deffinately help making it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 AoERat...um...wow...I'm stuned...you have been working on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoErat Posted August 26, 2001 Author Share Posted August 26, 2001 Hi all, thanks for the replies. Clefo: Factions should not be able to ally because if they did, they could easily overpower the rest, since there are only 6. (OT: we both live in Tucson!) crazy_dog: Using premade maps (ie not random maps) is a hassle because everyone who plays will have to have each map, and have the correct version, etc. That's why I decided it was best to go with the generic "random map" type. Tie Guy: I think it will depend on the number of players in each faction on how long it will take to complete. I would estimate perhaps a month or two. Anyway, the winning conditions can be easily changed, ie "Control X sectors", etc. When two people challenge the same sector, the game to determine who controls that sector automatically becomes a 2v2 game. So, if you want to play a 2v2 game, all you have to do is find a sector that one of your teammates has challenged, and challenge it also. Same idea for 3v3. 4v4 can only happen when a faction has only one sector left. Lord JayVizIon: A lower-skill player can still be an asset to the entire faction/team because they can defeat other lower-skill players, and still gain a sector. Also, they do not have to fear facing someone way above their skill level. If they get better, their rank increases (wins:losses), so they then are automatically qualified to play with higher-ranked players. The rank names are mostly there so you can say "I'm a Commander", instead of "I'm ranked 12/23", etc The "galaxy" is a 12x10 grid, but that doesn't mean that the game you actually play will be on a map that large. The grid just represents how many sectors your faction controls. Booya2020: This would be a good idea, if people want it to last shorter. JEDI_MASTA: I put "whatever built-in multiplayer system" in the design doc because we do not know if SWGB will be played over the Zone or not. Whatever multiplayer matching service available to use will be fine. It doesn't really matter where the games are played. Ranks are determined as the league progresses. This means at the very beginning their may be some unfair games because everyone will have a 0/0 skill level. But, as more games are played, people who win more will rise in skill and therefore a seperation will occur. Of course, it could be set up so you can enter your estimated skill when you sign up. Something to think about ... I am currently building planets into the system I'm setting up. Each faction will probably have a planet related to their faction in their beginning sectors - ie the Empire would have Coruscant, Wookies Kashykk, etc. darthfergie: Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compa_Mighty Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 So there are some people from Tucson here... It's a shame Jo Jo left his home there, for some California grass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gamma732 Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 Great idea. I especially like the ranking...it gets pretty annoying with the current system on the zone with AOK. This would make it easier for more people to start/join games that will be closer fought and more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rommel Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 How soon will this be set up... I'm definatly joining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clefo Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 I'm automaticly in. Before you ask: Naboo. As for ganging up: Not necessarily. If you play Civilization or Alpha Centauri or something like that 2v1 isn't always unfair. If not alliances then there should be cease fire treaties or Temporary non agression... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_MASTA Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 ok i guess ill take the TF or the gungans but im now sure whitch just in case there is not room but im deffinately in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoErat Posted August 27, 2001 Author Share Posted August 27, 2001 Darth_Rommel: I'm programming the framework for it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Nilaar Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 Nice to see someone had the same idea I had. This saves me the trouble of having to do it myself;) As for how long it takes to complete, there's no reason for it not to take a couple of months. Just a couple of weeks is too short, you would be constantly resetting the league, and there would be a feeling of pointlessness about it. In a plantetary league, length can be a good thing;) Sign me up for the Imperials. Assuming there's a leader for each faction in the league, I'm volunteering for the Imperial leadership. Making a central website for Imperial players would be no problem for me. And there's few who are more loyal to the Empire than me;) One thing I'd like to see is an emphasis on playing the part of your "general". With a role-playing forum for the league. In fact the fourms used by this site would be the kind I'd like to see used by the league as well. The Avatars are great and the Private Message feature would facilitate back room dealings between the different factions without having to give our e-mails out. I see you've already checked out the original GB league thread, there's lot's of good ideas there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazy_dog Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 I'll have a think about it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 Originally posted by Clefo To answer: 1. Not really, no. I can dig it. 2. The system itself is fine... 3. Sure i'm in with clefo on that but could the sectors have a planet in them to make a map of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 hey, couldn't we use a map of the galaxy from rebellion or something. that would make gmeplay more fun. you could refer to planets by their name not their grid piont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon_Leon Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 Aoerat, looks awesome... so awesome in fact, that it sounds like the kind of league we'd want combined with the Senate-idea. If you're interested in having that done, make it known and we'll work on that. The Senate would then serve as sort of a 'newscast' and 'political battleground' for that league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_MASTA Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 good idea leon:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_MASTA Posted October 21, 2001 Share Posted October 21, 2001 HEY GUYS I FOUND THE THREAD TAKE A LOOK AT IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PhantomMenace Posted October 21, 2001 Share Posted October 21, 2001 THat is an awesome idea for a league AOERAT...you're a really imaginative and intelligent person to think all that up out of nothing! I would definitely join a leauge like that...however i got 2 concerns...first, i agree with that other guy...i think the grid should be just a tad bit smaller, becuase you know if a faction takes ground the loosing faction or other factioins will try to take it back. So you gonna see a lot of back and forth battles and a lot of lost and regained ground and a huge grid like that will take forever to conquer. Also, like say noboyd likes the Naboo, and say the Imperials are top heavy in members...that would the talent pool for other sides a bit lopsided...how bout giving the factioins names instead of the civs in the game that way people can use the civ they like and still support various factions...you can name em like,,...red faction or wolf faction or another name maybe derived somewhere from the star wars universe. great concept idea!! i cant wait til you get it runnin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rommel Posted October 21, 2001 Share Posted October 21, 2001 The Naboo will gain pouplarity after people try them out! They seem to be the POWERFUL civ in the game I think THEY will be the top- heavy ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DSEmperor Viper Posted October 21, 2001 Share Posted October 21, 2001 thats a great idea the galactic empire will regain the universe under my command*sinister laugh*wuhahahahahaahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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