NewBJedi Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Figure I'll make my own post on this one. I have $50 + saying JK2 better be patched. I have another $50 + that can either go toward SOF 2 or another non-Raven or non-LucasArts game. Raven/LucasArts will make my decision for me - patch the game or I buy games from other dev teams and publishers. I don't care how much money it takes .. How much does a reputation cost? Is it up to Raven or LucasArts? I don't care who is responsible at this point. Raven is developing the game and LucasArts is publishing it - whether they pay or beg LucasArts to accept another patch is their problem, not mine. I'm tired of who is to blame or what. Whether it be LucasArts or Raven. If I don't see another JK2 patch that fixes the problems, I will not purchase another game from either of them again - it's that simple. How do you feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon9283 Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 I'll buy another game from Raven. SOF 2. Anyway, its not really Raven's desicion to make another patch. The publisher decides that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 17, 2002 Author Share Posted May 17, 2002 That's why the poll says either - so you can pick who you want to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 I won't stop buying games from them just 'cause of a lousy patch. After all, if I stopped buying LucasArts games, well, I wouldn't be playing any Star Wars games ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 17, 2002 Author Share Posted May 17, 2002 Not due to a lousy patch, what if they never patch it again? You would still purchase - even though you may receive the same lackluster support in their other games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dea Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 I'd buy the next starwars game without a doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Ben Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Even though it would be pretty bad not to release another patch, but I would buy from Lucas Arts just beacause I like Star Wars games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyth'emos Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 well since I have not played any multi player non-starwars game in over a year I would definetly buy the next starwars game, and raven is making EF2 wich I will definetly be picking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xombie Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 It seems to me that you're a bit in denial that LucasArts fully controls wether or not the game gets patched. Raven is an independant developer and can't afford to patch games while not getting paid. Your $50 does not cover their lost wages, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrazMan Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 I feel your pain NewBJedi. If Lucas decides against patching this one then what stops them from not patching all of their games. If they decide "well we made our money on that one, we don't have to support it anymore" then I don't think I would support them anymore. Raven I would buy from because they did an awesome job on it. But it's Lucas' call whether to patch it or not. If they give up on this one I'll more than likely give up on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiee Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 *shrug* I like the 1.03 patch. In my eyes, they improved the gameplay, as it suits me better to look fo ran opening when fighting opponents. I have received good support from Raven in general, and my general view of raven has improved if anything. Wether or not I'll buy another Raven/LucasArts game depends on wether it's a good game, of course, but both companies seem to be able to pull good games out of their ass at will if they wanted to, so I'm sure they'll see plenty more of my money coming their way in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Wind Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 do you think people buy lucas arts games for their reputation in the gaming community? would it matter what i did? i will not buy from raven though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyJAllTheWay Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 ick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrawn89 Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Christ some people do cry like babies when a game is changed a little. Nothing wrong with the current patch in my eyes, but thats besides the point, (there will be another one sooner or later) the game is brilliant and I love it to bits, I have no problems with either Raven or LucasArts. Yes I would buy another game from them, if JK2 is anything to go by if they make another Jedi Knight game I'll be parting with my cash rather quickly. In the end though it depends on weather or not I like the genre of game, if it's crap don't buy it if it's cool as an eskimo's ass then give it a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 17, 2002 Author Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by Kyth'emos well since I have not played any multi player non-starwars game in over a year I would definetly buy the next starwars game, and raven is making EF2 wich I will definetly be picking up. Actually, Raven isn't making EF 2. Check Gamespot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 17, 2002 Author Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by Thrawn89 Christ some people do cry like babies when a game is changed a little. Nothing wrong with the current patch in my eyes, but thats besides the point, (there will be another one sooner or later) the game is brilliant and I love it to bits, I have no problems with either Raven or LucasArts. Yes I would buy another game from them, if JK2 is anything to go by if they make another Jedi Knight game I'll be parting with my cash rather quickly. In the end though it depends on weather or not I like the genre of game, if it's crap don't buy it if it's cool as an eskimo's ass then give it a look. Changed a LITTLE? They nerfed all the decent dark forces and kick is totally screwed up ... You must love the backstab, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nill the Mean Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by NewBJedi Changed a LITTLE? They nerfed all the decent dark forces and kick is totally screwed up ... You must love the backstab, eh? Now now, NewB... Don't start any accusations when you don't know if they are true or not. The changes are not so much the problem, but it feels like a lot of the things they implemented in this patch were also rushed and thus they are bugged now. There was a demo avaliable displaying someone chopping through his opponent over and over again without doing more than the poking damage. People wanted SP saber combat in MP, it doesn't work like that. The player has loads of health in comparison too the NPC's as far as I know. Usually one well placed hit takes down Reborn. Hell, I even killed Tavion with one hit once. It still took me a long time to land that hit, but when I did it had been worth it. Just like I said in a different thread (in respect to balancing) why did they increase the blocking AND reduce the damage. Just one of those would have been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m64253 Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 SW game have a tenency to be good so Yes I would buy a new game from LucasArts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDove Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Mesa ganna bay da next jedi game dat kames out when Ep3 kames out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abom|nation Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Yes, i'll probably be buying games from Raven and Lucasarts.. I don't mind the patch, personally - I prefer it more than 1.02. Soldier of Fortune 2 looks set to be brilliant, and as different members of Raven have been working on it, it shouldn't have similarities to JK2 (Level design etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 This poll is so stupid. Let's face it. We will be the first ones to get the game if Raven makes an addon to Jedi Outcast. So all these people that voted that they won't buy any more games are just lying to themselves. They liked Jedi Outcast enough that they would go to forums and post about it. They are Star Wars fans. Period. Any Star Wars game Raven makes in the future is going to sell well with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius47 Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 I don't like JKII. I like Resident Evil. They cost $50. Resident Evil is better. I have $50. Resident Evil and Star Wars are going to have sequels. No way in hell I am going to get a poorly designed "clone wars" game instead of Resident Evil 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4. I like ""s, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooglyMoogly Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Damn NewB..haven't you gotten over this yet?. Have you even played the new patch for more than a few hours since its been out?. In my opinion they didn't ruin anything, sure they changed the game so much that I had to learn new strategies, but I like the new patch. I find that I can actually *think* about what I want to do and execute it. Before i could just mash my buttons and produce a wonderful array of moves...now I need to time my keystrokes and look for openings on my opponent. Oh..and kick is not nerfed now...I use it occasionally with no problem (even with a 200+ avg ping) and have still been the victim of kick-whores in 1.03. If anything, I find that there are MORE lame moves just begging to be spammed in 1.03 vs. 1.02. Apparently some folks have worked out a trick to execute DFA while pretty much remaining in place (without having that long run from a mile away)... In short after playing the new patch for a while people have adjusted and the game isn't that much different than 1.02...fights just last a little longer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrawn89 Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by NewBJedi Changed a LITTLE? They nerfed all the decent dark forces and kick is totally screwed up ... You must love the backstab, eh? The dark forces needed toning down, and I've not seen any major changes in them anyway, and it's not as if doing the kick is difficult or anything. It's a fair move if it's pulled off, just like any of the others, what were you trying to say there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Wind Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 he doesnt love backstab, he is just obviously ignorant. googly, if you have to learn new things beceause "a game is changed so much," then it is a different game. a patch that is realy a mod. patches fix problems. yeah eax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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